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Posted: 10 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Quixotic5


@ Blue : true..possibilities are endless but probabilities vary...so in that sense, its true anything is possible..but the probability of the possibilities is a different matter altogether.

@ Red : yet again possible..and makes sense..but given the current understanding of the intention, procedure & effects of such cosmetics surgeries , the accumulation of undesirable genes thereby affecting the future generation in a negative way seems like the most probable possibility..now that being said, there is still a possibility, however small it might be, that it go either ways..😊



True. If the probable possibilities give predicted results, we know what they would be and vice versa. Earlier it was believed acquired traits are not inherited, but overtime, results proved otherwise. So, nothing is sure as for now.


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Posted: 10 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: Quixotic5

what i meant is, what we are today as a species has been largely determined by the choices that our female ancestors made while mating..they only selected the best males as in males possessing desirable characteristic features & passed only desirable genes onto the future generation..and speaking from evolutionary perspective, men have always had to compete for mating rights & women chose only the best ones..so collectively speaking, these choices have shaped up our species, keeping the desirable characteristic features & eliminating others..and choice of best genes was mostly female driven bcoz they had to bear the cost of pregnancy & give birth..even today, women are picky about who fathers their children & men are inherently wired to mate with as many women as they could..though its changing since the male-female equation in modern human society too is changing..now a days even women participate in anonymous sex without any far reaching consequences (babies) & this behavior too might impact how the next generation shapes up..point is ,it is largely determined by the choices women make..men have always had to compete for women..but due to changed attitude towards sex, every tom-dick-harry stands a chance to father a child..and the choices made by women even under such circumstances will definitely have its impact on the traits retained in future generation..

ok, i know that was long & confusing ..& women yet again might feel burdened by this approach since the responsibility of future generation lies with them & men yet again might feel threatened to compete or belittled by this approach but the trick is to not think about it..we have reached a point where human society has become very complex..so the best thing to do is , sit back , relax, enjoy ur life & not worry excessively about how women's current choices will determine the future generation..am i making any sense ?😆

I agree women are very specific, very influential in this whole... thing. There were times when I myself went "no, I cannot see such a man as the father of MY FUTURE CHILD" even if he is filthy rich, is respectable, likeable by 'all', is intellectual etc. 😆 ...I think women are in general very possessive about their babies, having babies is the intention behind marriage for some(TBH, I think for 99% of the women, warna... why get married, for what lol? )
Actually, women wouldnt have to anonymously 'indulge' if there was an intention to bear a child. It's more for satisfying her biological needs.
Bearing a child will always be a different issue , no matter how liberal or how conservative or how confused a woman is. But the system of marriage is largely not one where woman has her say, because of various factors ---
1 - boys are picky too!
2 - girls are fine with anyone as long as they dont lose out time on bearing a child. Mothering a child drives a woman to compromise on many levels , I believe.
3 - rigid arranged marriage institution and etc.
Am I saying anything in relation to what you wanted to say...? 😆 ...now, I cannot say the onus is on the women for the future generations... unless a majority of the women are so empowered that they can deviate from the institution of family. But, those women will still be just a fraction of the entire population, just like how they are now. I dont think there'd be MANY girls like that 😆 ..every woman would want a child at the end of the day with exceptions ofcourse :)
Men are picky too, Quixote! 😆 ..now, I dont think men would evolve into something less if women change their minds on picking ONE to mate. Men too would enjoy it, infact a new sort of "have to put my best" would emerge even then... the more they'd 'get some' the better their confidence/whatever I think 😛
There are many other factors - social being the most major in making a man evolve. Is there clarity in what I am saying lol.
Edited by Angel-likeDevil - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil

I agree women are very specific, very influential in this whole... thing. There were times when I myself went "no, I cannot see such a man as the father of MY FUTURE CHILD" even if he is filthy rich, is respectable, likeable by 'all', is intellectual etc. 😆 ...I think women are in general very possessive about their babies, having babies is the intention behind marriage for some(TBH, I think for 99% of the women, warna... why get married, for what lol? )
Actually, women wouldnt have to anonymously 'indulge' if there was an intention to bear a child. It's more for satisfying her biological needs.
Bearing a child will always be a different issue , no matter how liberal or how conservative or how confused a woman is. But the system of marriage is largely not one where woman has her say, because of various factors ---
1 - boys are picky too!
2 - girls are fine with anyone as long as they dont lose out time on bearing a child. Mothering a child drives a woman to compromise on many levels , I believe.
3 - rigid arranged marriage institution and etc.
Am I saying anything in relation to what you wanted to say...? 😆 ...now, I cannot say the onus is on the women for the future generations... unless a majority of the women are so empowered that they can deviate from the institution of family. But, those women will still be just a fraction of the entire population, just like how they are now. I dont think there'd be MANY girls like that 😆 ..every woman would want a child at the end of the day with exceptions ofcourse :)
Men are picky too, Quixote! 😆 ..now, I dont think men would evolve into something less if women change their minds on picking ONE to mate.
There are many other factors - social being the most major in making a man evolve. Is there clarity in what I am saying lol.


You made perfect sense to me..actually i was expecting a similar reply..so i totally saw it coming..my approach was very primeval & you explained the complicated dynamics of the complex modern human society...and that is why i made it point to mention it my previous post that complex modern society too will have its impact since the male-female equation too has changed..however, i still feel that the primeval tendency is still at work even in the complex modern society..have u noticed how a man , given an opportunity will never miss a chance to have sex & how his friends will ridicule him for being so picky when an opportunity presented itself ?..its like stop being a pussy , u dont have to marry her !..and about women's 'biological needs', that too has changed over the ages , i think human females have developed an ability to have sex irrespective of their desire to have kids, in most animal species, females will not waste their time & energy in anonymous sex, only intent of sex being to get pregnant, but things are different now , but still have you noticed how a woman indulging in anonymous sex is not seen in a positive light by the society in general ?..but a man doing the same, its almost like a credit..why such double standards ?..but have u noticed how a woman's desire to have sex during ovulation period increases?..i believe its bcoz of our retained primeval tendency which is at work with or without our knowledge..now some people r working really hard towards abolishing such double standards, in effect changing the way a modern society works- whether this is how nature intended it to be or not ,or whether it will have positive or negative effects on our species is yet to be seen..i believe in the process women might (just a possibility) get their inhibitions lowered & in that , every tom-dick-harry stands a chance to father a child..besides its just not limited to that ,there are many many other factors too , even same-sex couple could happily have their own biological children & may be nature never intended for these people to have children, but i bet it sounds harsh now..again its complex co-operative modern society that we are talking about..its hard to predict what would work& what wouldn't for our species in times to come ..yes, so things have changed & the effects too will vary accordingly..😊..what we can do is, stop worrying about things which are not always in our hand ,live ur life & do what appeals to humanity- that should tell u what is right & what is wrong in the current society..cheers..😃 ..and i hope i havn't confused u with this complex post.. 😆
Edited by Quixotic5 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#64
Cosmetic surgery is altering our appearance, not our genetics. Unless cosmetic surgery becomes something that is genetic, I doubt its ability to impact humans.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Cosmetic surgery is altering our appearance, not our genetics. Unless cosmetic surgery becomes something that is genetic, I doubt its ability to impact humans.


@ Bold : Precisely !..and that is why i think it could be a problem,since,genes carrying unattractive traits play deceiving tricks in mating game by superficially projecting itself as an attractive gene/trait through artificial enhancements..therefore , a bigger chance of accumulating undesirable genes/traits in the coming generation..and that is how cosmetic surgeries could play a role at genetic level..


Edited by Quixotic5 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#66
I really wonder who ses men having anonymous sex in 'almost' a positive light.
Quitoxic ji...by the time I finished reading your post I actually forgot what were we debating about lol.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: iMini

I really wonder who ses men having anonymous sex in 'almost' a positive light.
Quitoxic ji...by the time I finished reading your post I actually forgot what were we debating about lol.


@ bold : lots of people do provided the man is not having anonymous sex with a prostitute..in that case its just sad..but if he is able to charm a girl into having sex with him , its seen as an achievement..⭐️..

iMini ji the topic of the debate is "Theory of Evolution" ..😃
Edited by Quixotic5 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#68
The visible result of cosmetic surgery is altered appearance alone, indeed. But the procedure, does it include harmful radiations or any such step which could be potentially a mutagenic exposure? I am curious, if anybody has an answer.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: amidstthehues

The visible result of cosmetic surgery is altered appearance alone, indeed. But the procedure, does it include harmful radiations or any such step which could be potentially a mutagenic exposure? I am curious, if anybody has an answer.


Yet again , its probable..😃..& now my imagination runs wild with what we see in most of the superhero flicks,a procedure with possible mutagenic effects..😎 😆
Edited by Quixotic5 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#70
Most cosmetic surgeries like other surgeries are just anesthesia and knife.

I think steroids and other performance enhancement drugs have genetic imprint. For example steroids shrink the testicles, weaken the sperm and cause hair loss. I am not sure if it causes genetic traits that passes on.

Gender reassignment surgeries or gender correction surgeries do involve hormones and biological change. Again I don't know impact on genetics.

Lately gene therapy is studying actually using genes to cure disease. I wonder if it could have any unexpected genetic mutations.

Technology, science and modifications have become so common in our life that we rarely rely on natural instincts like animals in nature. Who knows what course our evolution will take, how and why.

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