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#51

Originally posted by: zorrro
@ Quixotic- It is a natural reaction by any community that feels cornered due to whatever reason. An atmosphere of fear, suspicion , blame does no good to any side. Everyone who is able to think objectively would understand that it is never just one side to blame. Lot of events shape a common perception may be of persecution and as long as someone does not take a breather and stop to re evaluate the unintended worsening situation it can go on without an end or lead to a total THE END. Not everyone is wise enough to realise when things go from bad to worse but the few who do shouldnt stay quiet and do whatever possible to clear the confusion and restore peace. It would also help to build a more amicable atmosphere where at least the peaceloving majority human beings do not feel cornered or threatened. If there is more of self responsibility and less of blaming half the battle is won.

@ bold.. precisely ! ⭐️.. this dangerous cyclical reaction needs to be put down to rest ..

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#52

Originally posted by: zorrro
Once editing is permitted who is to determine who is the right person to do it and whose perception would be judged the correct one? It could be a double edged sword. 😛

I believe , peaceseeker has already answered this question - "Transcendology" ..😛

However ,i seriously doubt the practicality of the said concept..i can only speak for Hinduism but it seems like the problem with other religions is that they have been misinterpreted & misrepresented..i believe proper interpretation & representation of such religions should be more than enough..all religions preach humanity & i doubt if removing the essence of divinity ( which Transcendology terms as supernatural superstition that needs to be eliminated) will help the cause..🤔

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#53

Originally posted by: Quixotic5

I believe , peaceseeker has already answered this question - "Transcendology" ..😛

However ,i seriously doubt the practicality of the said concept..i can only speak for Hinduism but it seems like the problem with other religions is that they have been misinterpreted & misrepresented..i believe proper interpretation & representation of such religions should be more than enough..all religions preach humanity & i doubt if removing the essence of divinity ( which Transcendology terms as supernatural superstition that needs to be eliminated) will help the cause..🤔

I read the link you provided but I m afraid I didnt really get Transcendology 😒 We cant have scientific proof for somethng that science hasnt caught up with yet.. It talks of spirit which hasnt been proved in scientific terms 😕

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#54

Originally posted by: zorrro
I read the link you provided but I m afraid I didnt really get Transcendology 😒 We cant have scientific proof for somethng that science hasnt caught up with yet.. It talks of spirit which hasnt been proved in scientific terms 😕

Welcome to the club !..😛.. i too havnt been able to grasp this concept , though peaceseeker tried to clear it out , i am yet to find a firm hold on it.. 😒

From what i was able to understand , Transcendology seems like a by-product of frustrated minds like ourselves who are desperately trying to reach a middle ground with respect to different religions & religious terrorism ( major or even minor)..you see, the intentions are certainly very noble - "Humanity above everything else & get rid of everything that stands in the way" ,however, i do not agree with the way it seeks to do it..may be according to Transcendologists , this "blind belief" in God or God's words is responsible for all the problems in the world..and may be they are right to certain extent..this "blind belief" is indeed responsible for all the chaos & loss but what it fails to see is that most religions are indeed very rational , it is only a matter of dealing with misinterpretations & misrepresentations...but completely eliminating the divine essence is hardly a solution..most people are inspired & motivated by this divine essence, it is only a matter of channeling it in the right direction instead of brushing it off completely as supernatural superstition..and as for, why such a concept still stands by the concept of 'spirit' ,thats yet again confusing , the best reason that i could come up with is that may be Transcendology realized that certain mystic or 'supernaturalism' is indeed necessary to gather followers & in the process ended up cannibalizing its own motto of completely doing away with "supernatural elements"..or may be they were going for spirituality rather than spirits 😆..whatever, i ll leave it for Transcendologists to clarify their stand..

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😆 If we are finding it this difficult to undrstand the concepts of Transcendology as explained in those few paragraphs would it be justified to say that most of the people do not actually have complete knowledge of the religious books they swear, fight or kill by? 😉 A good case for little knowledge being dangerous. 😛 Either people should be banned from reading what they are not capable of comprehending in its full context or they need to be tutored carefully only by certified qualified people who have the "correct" knowledge of it .

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#56

Originally posted by: zorrro
Islam means peace so a religion that has peace as its foundation should take up more efforts in preventing misuse of their holy teachings by misguided people. I see that as the only practical solution.

Islam means peace? She Begs Mercy for Her Father Not To Stone Her for Adultery. Their Exchange is Heartbreaking. Islam

I agree that a religion that supposedly has peace as its foundation should take up much, much more efforts in preventing misuse of their holy teachings by misguided people.

Would they, the peace-loving Muslims dare to put up signs stating?:

TERRORISTS BEWARE

Death of another human whose soul has not had a chance to reconcile with Allah means death to the soul of the killer...wasted lives and wasted souls. If you kill another, your soul may DIE.

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Originally posted by: Quixotic5
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..most people are inspired & motivated by this divine essence, it is only a matter of channeling it in the right direction instead of brushing it off completely as supernatural superstition..and as for, why such a concept still stands by the concept of 'spirit' ,thats yet again confusing , the best reason that i could come up with is that may be Transcendology realized that certain mystic or 'supernaturalism' is indeed necessary to gather followers & in the process ended up cannibalizing its own motto of completely doing away with "supernatural elements"..or may be they were going for spirituality rather than spirits 😆..whatever, i ll leave it for Transcendologists to clarify their stand..

Spirit exists but it cannot be scientifically proven. Every person's psyche is their spirit. The soul and spirit are often considered identical, though the soul has also been referred to as the vessel for the spirit. Your spirit makes you laugh, cry, happy, sad, etc.

The spirit or soul exists in the collective mental processes of the subconscious the subconscious part of the mind and is also where the mental processes of creativity originate. The conscience adds to and stores life experiences into the subconscious of the mind, which is the spirit or soul. If the conscience is anesthetized by other than righteous conduct the existence of the spirit gradually fades and is eventually extinguished.

Existence is reality. When physical existence ceases, conclusions are often surmised that all existence ceases and spirituality is sometimes perceived to be an illusion in the physical dimension. The Ultimate Reality is spiritual and is often an illusion to the physical reality.

It is of no importance during our physical life whether a Spiritual Existence or God exists or not if one so chooses. Whether or not one believes in a spirit or God really makes no difference to God/Allah. Righteous living will determine the continuance and destiny of our spirit/soul.

Supernaturalism exists in the spiritual existence, but cannot be scientifically proven and does not exist in our physical universe.

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I checked here http://transcendology.org/ The concept doesnt seem any different from spiritualism. There are lot of practices like yoga and meditation that have been prevalent since ancient times in India that preach the same. I dont see what is new in transcendology.

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Originally posted by: peaceseeker

Islam means peace? She Begs Mercy for Her Father Not To Stone Her for Adultery. Their Exchange is Heartbreaking. Islam

I agree that a religion that supposedly has peace as its foundation should take up much, much more efforts in preventing misuse of their holy teachings by misguided people.

Would they, the peace-loving Muslims dare to put up signs stating?:

TERRORISTS BEWARE

Death of another human whose soul has not had a chance to reconcile with Allah means death to the soul of the killer...wasted lives and wasted souls. If you kill another, your soul may DIE.

I believe its possible.. 🤔.. however , one should take into account the fact that the regions affected with terrorism ( mostly Muslim regions ) may not be able to go along with this bold stand but thats not bcoz of religion but bcoz of political & administrative drawbacks ..so i feel that such regions are politically & administratively handicapped..may be thats something that needs to be worked on first...and then ofcourse proper interpretations & representations of the said religion & religious texts could play its part..i dont see any reason for introducing 'Transcendeology' in the religion..although u should know that my knowledge of Islam is seriously limited and my conclusions have been derived from the discussions on this thread ..

EDIT :i was so focused on 'TERRORISTS BEWARE" that i only just noticed that ur message says 'Souls may DIE" .. may be u have derived that notion from 'Transcendology' but as a Hindu i do not support it..souls can never "DIE".they are eternal..but ofcourse they suffer for their bad deeds through the 'Karma" principle & then there is also the heaven & hell in the afterlife ..so what i am trying to say is that , yes Muslims can certainly promote the message of 'TERRORISTS BEWARE" (the above mentioned political & administrative aspects notwithstanding) but the rest of the message will be & should be based on their own religious teachings & not necessarily 'Transcendeology'..

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#60

Originally posted by: zorrro
I checked here http://transcendology.org/ The concept doesnt seem any different from spiritualism. There are lot of practices like yoga and meditation that have been prevalent since ancient times in India that preach the same. I dont see what is new in transcendology.

Spiritualism is a system of belief or religious practice based on supposed communication with the spirits of the dead, especially through mediums.

Transcendology is NOT a religion, but if it would be accepted by religions, it would eliminate their superstitious beliefs and bring their belief system into 21st Century rationality.

Transcendologists are Transcendentalists who believes that truthfulness and rationality in religions are truths that can be substantiated by science or those that cannot be proven to be wrong. They believe that spiritual interactions can only take place between a spiritual existence, if one exists, and our spirit. These interactions, if they exist, are then translated by our pre-conditioned minds and hence there are various religions.

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