Are Men Secure ?? - Page 11

Originally posted by: lighthouse

How do you know who has a clean heart? Just because a guy seems like a nice guy and acts all decent and watches what and how he says ...😕 At least a flirtatious guy wears his mind on a sleeve and it is upto us whether to call him a creep or lucid..

The one who remains in his limits all the time is the one with clean heart to me. As long as he is in his limits I don't have any reason to think otherwise. But the ones who start with nice posts then graduates to indecent posts get an immediate halt from my end. I am a better judge for myself and I can sense what is cheap and what is innocent flirting.

Originally posted by: raksha.l

Wooow, that's cool Maya..Because sometimes I did get disappointed with some people, so stopped profiling people based on what they post here..

Raksha, Even when one plays devil's advocate (I know I do that often😃), the language used and arguments given is enough to know the kind of person. It is not always easy but not impossible either.

Hope I am not among those who disappointed you 😳

Let us get back to main topic before viewbieji comes pouncing on us😳

Originally posted by: Maya_M

Let us get back to main topic before viewbieji comes pouncing on us😳

Yeah, I and my little detours are making an exit from this topic now ..this viewbie ji is a bit scary and too strict.. 😭

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Yes but if some one is crass, abusive and uses foul language... one warning followed by ejection is not wrong...

Well-said qwerty! 👏👏👏 Until foul language is used at them or their loved ones, people tend find the crassy people respectworthy. Now that's the irony and a reason why abusive behaviour is supported.

LH, yepp, the thread is about MEN. It is about their SECURITY issues furthermore 😃

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

Well-said qwerty! 👏👏👏 Until foul language is used at them or their loved ones, people tend find the crassy people respectworthy. Now that's the irony and a reason why abusive behaviour is supported.

LH, yepp, the thread is about MEN. It is about their SECURITY issues furthermore 😃

Yes QT..Point noted and I should say Men are not secure instead of men are insecure in my previous posts. 😊

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

I think everybody who doesnt like such things should have a siggy indicating their conservatism.. something like " I dont like sexist flirting. Stay away...."😆😆.. just so that this conservatism doesnt become the chat graveyard for some.

Yes but if some one is crass, abusive and uses foul language... one warning followed by ejection is not wrong...

i think the onus should be on the flirter. when the other person says no, it's a no go. that would address the crying needs of those who find cheap indecent behavior acceptable and worth glorifying and those who do not. 😉

guys who indulge in such behavior anyway do so imo out of a feeling of insecurity- somewhere they lack confidence that they can get the woman without having to make unwanted advances.

and yes, we leave our footprints out there- our writings do reveal a lot about us. we form judgments about people implicitly or explicitly all the time, and someone's literature has to be the best single source in the virtual world. ab dil ke andar kya hai, yeh toh jhank kar naheen dekha hai na, kyoon?😉 cardiologist or not😆

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

I think everybody who doesnt like such things should have a siggy indicating their conservatism.. something like " I dont like sexist flirting. Stay away...."😆😆.. just so that this conservatism doesnt become the chat graveyard for some.

Yes but if some one is crass, abusive and uses foul language... one warning followed by ejection is not wrong...

If there is a choice of someone using crass, abusive, foul language or someone accusing another of sexual misconduct without any basis, then IMO the person who uses foul language is a better person, but yeah if rule-book prevails😉

Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

Dear Friends!!!

My topic for the debate is "Are Men Secure?"

Let me explain the topic.All the times people simply debate,fight for the rights of Women.I really wonder Why the issues of men are not raised?

In somany cases Men are threatened by sexual harasment by women if they have personal grudges.May be if the Man is really good he will come out of the case but mean while imagine the mental torture undergone by he and his family members.

Please put your views.

Cheers,

Mythili

question should have been "Are men safe?"

If a woman accuses a man of sexual misconduct the man is treated guilty, There are always 50 "knights in shining armor" or 50 of "nari-jaati khatre mein". In that case whether or not the man is found guilty or not he is doomed in the court of public opinion. Somehow this is a repayment for the hundreds of abuses that other men have heaped on women, but there will come a time when a woman is actually is abused and no-one will beleive her for the 100 mentioned above. Somehow these 100 will be responsible for her pain and suffering more than the abuser

Originally posted by: sareg

If there is a choice of someone using crass, abusive, foul language or someone accusing another of sexual misconduct without any basis, then IMO the person who uses foul language is a better person, but yeah if rule-book prevails😉

Using foul language is acceptable.. but for a woman to ask evidence of sexual misoconduct would be embarassing... So given a choice.. its better to be safe than sorry. I wouldnt expect to get away after I am blamed of sexual misconduct...however unreasonable and primitive this may sound. The point is if people become judgemental and jump the gun in innocuous circumstances then thats terrible let down in the internet world..

My response in blue..

Originally posted by: chatbuster

i think the onus should be on the flirter. when the other person says no, it's a no go. that would address the crying needs of those who find cheap indecent behavior acceptable and worth glorifying and those who do not. 😉

Aren't we assuming here that the people involved are strangers which then is obviously accepted as crassy behaviour on the part of flirter.. but when people known to each other on the net or otherwise find the flirter charming and then on a whim declare him as perv for their own mental cleansing makes the men not secure imo...

guys who indulge in such behavior anyway do so imo out of a feeling of insecurity- somewhere they lack confidence that they can get the woman without having to make unwanted advances. If a stranger comes right off the bat and starts flirting then yes, but if 2 adults have befriended each other and then after a fall out , one of them accuses the guy of flirting or being indecent, it is grossly wrong and abusive...

and yes, we leave our footprints out there- our writings do reveal a lot about us. we form judgments about people implicitly or explicitly all the time, and someone's literature has to be the best single source in the virtual world. ab dil ke andar kya hai, yeh toh jhank kar naheen dekha hai na, kyoon?😉 cardiologist or not😆

Right on.. and that is why Liberty , Freedom of expression and Innocent till proven guilty are the 3 most valueble rights for anyone in the free world.