Originally posted by: Ms. Bholi Bhali
Ok, sorry for a late entry, I was busy.
I'm in blue here/
Well it's not the matter of Muslim world or Christian world. The whole problem is that a group of ppl is ruling the world. And they are the uncrowned king of the world.
Yes this is true, but we have always had such a super power, in the 1600-1800s it was Britain, and now it is the U.S. Still this doesnt justify a reason on why they would do this.
Why can't Bush, get a bunch of young guys, and get them to do this?? He will be providing money and all to their families, which many want. You all have to agree, that how the world is changing, any person can do anything for money. Its has now become "you give ur life, we will give u security and money".
Why would they want to spread anti muslim feelings? I mean its possible but what would be the motive??? As far as i know most muslims are patriotic to their faith and would never think of ruining the muslim name (terrorists dont count because their mentality is that they are helping their country rather than destroying its repuatation).
The documentary of 911 issues is not made by Pakistanis or Muslims, it is made by the Americans or the books are written by Michael Moore. Loose change was not made by Muslims or Pakistanis. So omit that part please.
True, the documentary made by Micheal Moore did say that Bush was involved, but have you seen the countless other documentaries that disproved almost everything in Farenheit 911, obviously micheal wanted to sell his point so he made no effort to show the other side. The only reason the documentary went so big and the others didnt because americans are big conspiracy nuts like me, and so we saw all of the things he presented as facts rather than looking into it ourselves and disproving the matter. After this pointless theory was made many Muslims supported Michael's theory, and like i said they didnt look into it themselves.
Our Governments are no saints, doesn't matter where they are from, US, UK, Indian or Pakistani, all are same, all want to be in good books and show that they are the most innocent or in this case "the becharye"
True again, but that is not the point here. Our government is in no sense innocent, but it is enormous. Such a thing like i said would require months of planning like i stated before. You think that bush would just walk up to a random Muslim and say "hey u wanna get caught in a bomb plot that i concocted and then turn the media away from the lebanon situation for no apparent reason?" Not only would that guy tell the media that the most powerful government in the world wanted him to do this (which would help his poor and desperate family moneywise) he would get famous doing this, and he would be helping the muslims who believe that the U.S is capable of this.
[quote=Aparna_BD] The problem is the moment people take something personally because the terrorist belongs to their Nationalisty or religon. People also get defensive immediately . This is how we give rise to conspiracy theories.[/quote]
Disagree, ppl take it personally, because they are treated and thought to be same as the ppl who are called or labeled as terrorist!!! Terrorism has a totally different religion, coz now nationality and religion doesn't matter to them. Because in those attacks which they are planning, many will be killed who belong to the same religion.
Exactly! I agree with you here as well, they are treated as terrorists, and trust me i've dealt with racism myself.
Conspiracy theories start by looking at the past and present of the ppl who are plotting it, or of the ppl this is happening to.
How many know where Osama bin Laden is sitting. And if he has such a big army and there are areas where he is training soooooooooooooo many youngsters, then why hasn't the "new technology" has traced them??? US has so many powerful sources, why they are using it for the destruction of the countries. Why can't they use it the other way?
Um... no technology is perfect, and besides we had traced him numerous times, he hid in Afghanistan and now he is probably in Pakistan. If the pakistani/afghani government couldnt track him down in their own country then how is the U.S supposed to halway around the world using only the "new technology" that u speak of?
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I am red here!
hi ms. bholi bhali, i agree that ur theory is possible, but i have a few points that really go against ur theory:
1. what would we gain? We know that the government cant control the media, and so it is all upto the media on how much coverage they would give this topic, and yes it has gotten a lot of coverage but the lebanon headlines are still strong and they still make the top headlines on many prominent t.v channels and papers. The government would really gain nothing but a 2-3 days of coverage and it would have to raise the already high terror threat level, causing great distress to the millions of people that fly in airlines everyday. Distraction simply isnt a reason why our governments would do such a thing
I agree to ur point, Channels have freedom of speech, but they are still of that country. That 2-3 day coverage is enough for what they want to do. And the new changes to the system will keep ppl of their country busy of many hours, days, weeks and months. This coverage for a few days is enough to distract everyone from other news.
I dont understand your point here either, what is the POINT of them doing this???? Why would they want to distract the U.S and British population from Lebanon. Its not like the U.S population is going to overthrow the government if we dont help lebanon, in fact many people dont care that such a horrific thing is happening in Lebanon. If Israel or Saudi Arabia did this then it would be understandable but why the U.S????
This has happened numerous times before and the american population didnt care, like when india and pakistan had the Kargil war. Sure the U.S was involved and thousands did die in this war but the population wasnt aroused at all. A good time when U.S would have done this terror plot would have been during the Vietnam war when people did really resent their government and plotted to overthrow it because of the U.S involvement in Vietnam. That would be logical, but what the reason now isnt.
2. This point has been stated in the 9/11 conspiracy too that if such a plot were to go down in the government, then wouldnt there be a single leak? I mean this has got to be the leak of the century that the government has done this and the person who leaked it would be extremely rich and more known than the pope.
If they know that, leaking of the news will not only end their lives but of their kids and other generations to come, then who will leak it??? For everyone family comes first. If u see, the bad person is more popular and rich then the good one, then how can the Pope be more rich and famous then Bush????
Again your making assumptions, if a person as such would reach the media, and then suddenly died in an accident or something happened to their family members then obviously the media would blame the government. The government is really helpless in a situation like this. And i didnt say that the pope is more rich, but he is more known than Bush because of the christian followers around the world.
3. And of course the president or the english prime minister cant pull of such a plan by themselves, and such a plan itself would require months if not years of strategic planning to make sure nothing goes wrong. Israel invaded Lebanon only a few short weeks ago, (although for the lebonese it must feel like an eternity), so how could our government compile such a plan in just a few short weeks and make sure nothing goes wrong?
Why can't they pull a plan by themselves??? They have great minds………. Or I should say evil minds. Have a good support group of ppl, who can do anything at such a short period of time. All they needs were some ppl, formula written in Arabic and the ingredients. Rest is done by media.
Like i said this kind of planning WOULD take months if not years, and besides there is NO POINT in doing this.
4. The problem is that we cant do anything to help the lebonese, but by creating such a plot that terrorists have been caught trying to use liquids to create mass mayhem is going to cause more problems to our government than it already has. Because though it would make the government look competent it would dangerously hurt the already fragile airline industry. People would be even more scared to go on to planes and tensions would be high between the small muslim population and the rest of america and the UK. Such a plot by the government could be the tip of the ice berg that would cause the airlines to shut down meaning that thousands of people would be fired and the country would suffer major economic problems.
Don't u think that they will invent machines which will detect such explosives?? Why would they let their economy to go down??? Plus if one stream of work closes, tons of new streams of work open. Jab airlines nahian thi, uss waqt bhi tu log travel kartye thye. Columbus bhi tu aaya tha in US. Airlines tu nahian thi uss waqt. 😃
That's not true, the airline industy is very fragil now. (many airlines are close to declaring bankruptcy), how do think the economy crashes? Its like a domino game my dear, if one industry falls then they all do. If airlines were to stop then import and export would have a huge impact on it, then comes inflation and finally an economic meltdown. You think the government would risk all of this just to distract a few people from Lebanon???? Columbus did come on a boat, but we travel in airlines now.
5. Our government aims to make the airlines safer, and this is bad publicity for it even though they have caught the terrorists.
Why they want their airlines to suffer??? They have the biggest chain of it. They don't want to be beggers. They just want to increase the hatred between ppl. Eik taraf they want to end the racism, dosri taraf, they keep calling Muslims terrorists.
Because they are Muslims! They call them Muslim terrorists because they are muslim, i'm not saying that there are no other religions that dont have terrorists in them but the terrorists are Muslim. And the government doesnt do this the media does, it wants people to pay attention to what they are saying so they always go "Muslim terrorist plot foiled" and things like that. And no they dont want their airlines to suffer, which is exactly why they WOULDNT do this.
And yes they do have the biggest chains but all these chains are just about ready to declare BANKRUPTCY. Something like this would really destroy it.
Overall i like your theory because i'm a big conspiracy nut but i cant ignore the facts either, and besides to think that a man who calls "eeraq" "I rack" can conspire such a plan is being gullible, though i dont know about the English PM.
Thanks for liking it.
As I said before no one is a saint. They are all making their ppl puppets. They are playing with their emotions. Nothing else!!!
Yes but the government has better things to do than play with people's emotions.
I hope u dont take any of this personally but i was only trying to make my point. 😃
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