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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: OnepoundChic

ermmm i dunno exactly how to explain bt to me love just clicks right ...u meet a person n start liking him/her with the passage of time, wanna be with him then u seem to be accepting his every quality nd deficiency(at least for that time) ..its just my pov' ..that person seems perfect to u no matter what others or well wishers say but in fact no 1 is perfect nd later u do realize that love isn't quite unconditional as u thought before ..


Yup.. true. But I still like to believe there is something called unconditional love. It has to be there, else how and why do people live together for the rest of their lives. Are you telling me they don't love each other? I refuse to believe that!

its human nature to get attracted to a beautiful thing or a beautiful property of some thing or some 1 ,some times its looks some times its nature some times its success some times its background n family etc etc ..no 1 would be having these things all together so definitely 1 or half of these attracts ,, nd no love is unconditional i think ,its only, until u dun keep ur foot in to practical life ,fairy nd unconditional love exits in fairy age or fairy thoughts only.. conditions n sacrifices do come in a normal relationship nd life..

Sneaky aren't you.. you are dragging in "Fairy" to distract me! 😆
Agreed about attraction.. something about the other person should attract you. That is the first step to love. I mean take food for example .. something about the food makes you want to eat it, but you don't fall in love with it until you taste it.. 😉 So yeah, attraction is a must, but that isn't love.. love happens after you realize what the person is like. So there must be a way to figure out whether that person is the one that you can live with for the rest of your life.. 'coz people rarely change, contrary to popular belief. Yes, their priorities might change, but the person.. their character never changes!!!!

'But i have heard people saying when old ur partner gets boring nd u cant live with him etc but in my POV a person with whom u spend ur time ,ur joys dismal fights instead of a 'no more interested in' that person should become ur habit which u can never leave unconsciously, if consciously ..its my one fairy unconditional(some where) love thought 😳


I disagree. Someone should never become a habit.. then you take each other for granted...and then life becomes monotonous!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: epiphany.

Whether he puts gel in his hair or not, I will still love him. Whether he shaves or not, I will still love him. I will love him even if he loses his virginity to somebody else and I will love him even when he does not offer to pay my bills for me.


Is that unconditional enough? I think so, and quite imaginative on my part too.


That is unconditional love for sure! 😊

But won't it annoy you if he wants you to put gel in your hair, shave, have an issue if you lose your virginity to someone, or expect you to pay the bills? 🤔

Again, is it too much to ask for unconditional love if you are willing to give it???
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Posted: 12 years ago
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For me there is Unconditional love! And that love is the love one has for their pets!

And Love could be unconditional. But rarely.
If one can accept you for who you are, overlooking your flaws, stands by you in times of crisis, Not listening to what others say about you and who wants to grow old with you and be with your forever is THE ONE!

And there are expectations in love. I wont say that if we expect something then its not love. We do expect certain things from our parents from our friends from our partners thats because we have a right on them. We love them. Just like how possessiveness(to some extent) is not wrong in a relationship, similarly expecting small things is not a big deal.

And the person whom you love should not try to dominate you and must treat you equal. Should respect your views and even if he wants us to change something in us he should not order you but suggest you with reasons so that you can understand it.

And during fights at least one should give in. Not all the times but whenever we realize its our mistake. And if there is Ego in one's relationship then that relationship is not gonna last long.
Understanding and Communication is a must.

I dont know how related my comment was for this thread but this is my POV!


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: --arti--

I don't think love is unconditional. And I don't think there is "the one" person for us. We meet people, and we have messy and unruly lives, we learn lessons, relationships end, other ones may begin. I think that narrative of true love and all is really overrated.


Aah yes.. I understand where you are coming from.. it hasn't yet been 15 days for me.. I have two more days to go! 😉

But sweetheart, do we have to give up hope? Maybe it is out there, just we haven't found it! Yes, it's been 10 years since I have been meeting the wrong people 😡.. and I think I should give up.. but somehow I don't want to. What if you give up, and the moment you look away, the dude just passes you. Or are you saying that there is no concept of spending the rest of your life with that one person? Damn! 🥺 Aah, well I am so used to dumping people now, I guess I can live with that.. in a way this is more fun. 😆

Pasting my responses from another thread on love ["Is love a good thing?"] last month. Sorry for being lazy:

That's alright.. sloth is a "sin" I completely understand and approve of 😆





👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 Lovely! I simply loved everything you said.. and some of my favorite parts are in bold!

But I wonder about what you said here : "it is possible to love many people, and to love more than one person romantically (whether or not that goes anywhere or one acts on it is another thing altogether)" .. are you saying its normal to feel attracted to someone else while you are with another.. I agree about having crushes or thinking someone's cute. But if you are really attracted to someone, doesn't that mean you are not happy in the relationship you are in .. that something is lacking, which is why you found it with someone else? So maybe you were in the wrong relationship after all and it's time to call it quits!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: GayuArnav

For me there is Unconditional love! And that love is the love one has for their pets!


And Love could be unconditional. But rarely.
If one can accept you for who you are, overlooking your flaws, stands by you in times of crisis, Not listening to what others say about you and who wants to grow old with you and be with your forever is THE ONE!

And there are expectations in love. I wont say that if we expect something then its not love. We do expect certain things from our parents from our friends from our partners thats because we have a right on them. We love them. Just like how possessiveness(to some extent) is not wrong in a relationship, similarly expecting small things is not a big deal.

And the person whom you love should not try to dominate you and must treat you equal. Should respect your views and even if he wants us to change something in us he should not order you but suggest you with reasons so that you can understand it.

And during fights at least one should give in. Not all the times but whenever we realize its our mistake. And if there is Ego in one's relationship then that relationship is not gonna last long.
Understanding and Communication is a must.

I dont know how related my comment was for this thread but this is my POV!



Aww G 🤗

I completely love this comment!!

Agree love should be unconditional, but rarely is. Prometeus said it right: if you expect anything in return your love isn't unconditional and rarely do we love without expecting our love to be reciprocated, without expecting respect, and all the positive things we shower on the ones we love.

Loving unconditionally also means overlooking all flaws...can you carry on loving your partner if you find out they're an axe murderer? Will your love remain if your partner is constantly cheating on you?

The closest thing we have to unconditional love is the love between parent and child or love for our pets, as G says 😆...

Is it only in literature that we find people loving, pining over others who don't love them back, spurn them, prove 'unworthy' of their love? I'm thinking of Gatsby and the fickle Daisy...😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: moomin4455

Aww G 🤗

I completely love this comment!!

Agree love should be unconditional, but rarely is. Prometeus said it right: if you expect anything in return your love isn't unconditional and rarely do we love without expecting our love to be reciprocated, without expecting respect, and all the positive things we shower on the ones we love.

Loving unconditionally also means overlooking all flaws...can you carry on loving your partner if you find out they're an axe murderer? Will your love remain if your partner is constantly cheating on you?

The closest thing we have to unconditional love is the love between parent and child or love for our pets, as G says 😆...

Is it only in literature that we find people loving, pining over others who don't love them back, spurn them, prove 'unworthy' of their love? I'm thinking of Gatsby and the fickle Daisy...😆


Aww Bim 🤗

Im not as wise as you guys are! 😆
But sometimes even Parents love for child is not unconditional. They do expect you to take care of you when they grow old etc etc. Im not saying its wrong but still its an expectation right?

And for any relationship communication is a must!
We can't just sit back and wait for the other person to understand you without even communicating! It might be like that for few couples but not all.
So you should let the other person know what you are going through and tell him/her that their actions are hurting you and upsetting you. Only then they will realize and will not repeat it!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: GayuArnav

For me there is Unconditional love! And that love is the love one has for their pets!


Oh you innocent little angel you. But yeah, I am not going to say anything more and put you off it. You have to get out there and at least give it a chance, at least for 10 years, before you become a cynic like me 😆

And Love could be unconditional. But rarely.
If one can accept you for who you are, overlooking your flaws, stands by you in times of crisis, Not listening to what others say about you and who wants to grow old with you and be with your forever is THE ONE!

Hmm.. i have taught you well! 😆 Well-said!
I still believe there are guys like that. There has to be right .. or does everyone settle in the end for someone less?

And there are expectations in love. I wont say that if we expect something then its not love. We do expect certain things from our parents from our friends from our partners thats because we have a right on them. We love them. Just like how possessiveness(to some extent) is not wrong in a relationship, similarly expecting small things is not a big deal.

Yikes, no. Never ever ever be possessive, even to any extent. It is just plain wrong. That person is an individual first. See I believe in getting at least what I give.. so if you are possessive, then don't complain if your guy is possessive. And you can never be happy if you have live by someone else's idea of you! So live and let live. It's good to have expectations, of course you need expectations.. else how do you know what you want? But the best thing is to not settle for someone who doesn't meet all your expectations..! Hmm, am I making any sense here? 😕

And the person whom you love should not try to dominate you and must treat you equal. Should respect your views and even if he wants us to change something in us he should not order you but suggest you with reasons so that you can understand it.

Again, no changing.. People never change and their partners should understand that. If you expect your partner to change, then you are not with the right person. Every person is flawed.. and that's what makes them unique. Some flaws can annoy you, but not too much... If it gets on your nerve every time, then its time to rethink whether or not you should be in that relationship!

And during fights at least one should give in. Not all the times but whenever we realize its our mistake. And if there is Ego in one's relationship then that relationship is not gonna last long.
Understanding and Communication is a must.

Agreed.

I dont know how related my comment was for this thread but this is my POV!
It was. Thanks, sweetheart. I hope I was not being too big-sisterly and ordering you around as always eh 😆 Just know I love you, very dearly 🤗



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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: GayuArnav


Aww Bim 🤗

Im not as wise as you guys are! 😆
But sometimes even Parents love for child is not unconditional. They do expect you to take care of you when they grow old etc etc. Im not saying its wrong but still its an expectation right?

And for any relationship communication is a must!
We can't just sit back and wait for the other person to understand you without even communicating! It might be like that for few couples but not all.
So you should let the other person know what you are going through and tell him/her that their actions are hurting you and upsetting you. Only then they will realize and will not repeat it!


@Bold totally agree with this Gayu - that's why I said it's the closest we can get to unconditional love, but yeah there are expectations. Look at those parents who disown their children from marrying the wrong person, being gay, not conforming to their ideals and loving their kids and expecting them to look after them. Still I think a good parent is going to tolerate more flaws in their child than most people, there's more understanding there and a closer bond.

Communication is so under-rated! If you love me you'll understand me!! Umm...no I love you but I'm not psychic. I wish people would just talk - it would save a lot of hassle!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: boreddamsel


That is unconditional love for sure! 😊

But won't it annoy you if he wants you to put gel in your hair, shave, have an issue if you lose your virginity to someone, or expect you to pay the bills? 🤔

Again, is it too much to ask for unconditional love if you are willing to give it???


I kid. 😛 I am capable of loving a good enough fellow with a beard and unkempt hair. And I would feel devoid of all my self esteem if I do not pay my bills for myself. But I'm afraid this is not unconditional enough. I would not mind the untidy hair given a tidy heart. So, clearly we do specify conditions. We can love absolutely anyone, that is for sure but never without conditions. We'd love them only if they possess what we seek.

And to answer your question, it is not much to ask for it if you are willing to give it. But will doesn't suffice. You give it in practice, that might get it for you in practice. Might, being the keyword.


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