Delhi Gangrape accused Ram Singh commits suicide - Page 2

Originally posted by: TheRowdiest

its all reminding me of Talaash, how Kareena's ( character name ? ) soul killed her killers and ppl thought they were committing suicide

Originally posted by: _Angie_

^^ Lets not be too hasty in thinking that the suicide was a result of any remorse felt by the main accused. It could very well have been the result of cowardice, inability to tolerate the harsh treatmet meted out to him by the other jail inmates. From a report I had read much earlier, the inmates seem to have their own code of conduct and justice delivery! The rapists occupy the ranks of most despicable followed by murderers. The juvenile too had been subjected to violence from the inmates of the "juvenile reormatory homes" and had to be shifted thrice to alternate places for his safety. Whatever, it is another example of the inefficiency on part of the law keepers.

Suicide is common in prisons. They will hang themselves using clothes. Asphyxiate themselves. Or cut themselves during a lunch break or something. There have been cases where people even bashed their heads on walls.

As Angie said, it is not always guilt or remorse that drives criminals to suicide. Sometimes it is exactly the opposite. They don't want accountability. They just don't like society pointing fingers. They choose the easy way out than paying the price of crime. Prisons also have their own warped ethics codes. Pedophiles and rapists are often shunned and bullied in prisons because their crime is considered to heinous. Many pedophiles and rapists have died in prison after being gang raped and sodomized by inmates. Even prison guards tend to unleash their most sadistic taunting and noisemaking to them.

I don't feel any remorse for him. What he did was a brutal crime and this was too easy. Which is why I hope that he was taunted, bullied and emotionally tormented by everyone around him so bad that he just could not take it anymore. I feel bad for the friends and family of the victim. There is nothing more satisfying for closure than having the rapist convicted guilty in a trial. It is sad how inefficient our courts are in doing that.

You raise some good points

I think 'repairing' society to be better should be something before the crime rather than after the crime. The first goal should be to prevent rape and violent crimes. Then the next step should be what to do with those who slip through the cracks. The problem with retributive justice is that we do focus a lot more on punishment rather than a safer society.

I do believe in rehabilitation because punishment doesn't undo the crime nor does it make society safer. All it does is keep pouring money into punishment, that doesn't result in much.

But there are two considerations to rehabilitation

- The big question is can the criminal be rehabilitated

- What of the victims? Especially in gruesome and heinous crimes victims do need closure and "we'll try to make the perpetrator a better person" is not a viable answer

Although our retribution/rehabilitation systems do need a major overhaul. There are studies that show that some prison systems are actually making criminals rather than punishing crime. The legal system is stacked against low income, minority groups. Many don't get second chances or breaks like the richer powerful folks. Many misguided youth end up in prison for petty crimes and are mistreated due to biases. But because the deck is stacked against them, rather than repent or decide against crime – they end up being more bitter, hardened and against society.

But I think these conditions hold weight for crimes in general. Brutal gang rape, serial rape, serial killing, butchering/torturing, child trafficking/rape/po*n and some crimes are so heinous that we cannot have second thoughts.

Originally posted by: tannipartner

But I am so amused at the accusations of the family of ram singh. Errm where were you when you were bringing your son up as a pest like this?

He had issues with his bus owner once before, he came to kiran bedi's aap ki adalat, clearly flounting laws is not his today's action, where were you correcting him then? And now , with all due respect to the mother's sentiment, his mother cries out he just commited a mistake, even God forgives one mistake. Right!!! offcourse brutally raping is " just " a mistake. They and the lawyers are not creating unnecessary diversion to the main justice of nirbhaya.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

I feel bad for the friends and family of the victim. There is nothing more satisfying for closure than having the rapist convicted guilty in a trial. It is sad how inefficient our courts are in doing that.