Why only killing a female embryo is wrong? - Page 7

Originally posted by: LovesLowCulture

I've said way too many times, the "disconnect" is this case is the act of discrimination. Yes, when sex-selective abortion is the issue, the two values conflict and, therefore, my pro-choice stance. Others have articulated well how singling out one cause for abortion as illegal can work to the detriment of abortion rights as a whole. And have, in my opinion, provided workable solutions.

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

You would think a person capable of being enraged at the thought of selective abortion would not so callously dismiss abortion itself. Unfortunately not. I don't know where the disconnect happens in their minds. If two values seemingly conflict, one value will trump the other if only the arguments behind both the values are subject to reason. It's a simple question of ironing out the inconsistencies in logic that are conflicting. Not that hard to do.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

The way I look at it. Abortion is a broad issue. Within abortion you have many sections and subsections. Even if one is pro-choice or pro-life in the big picture there are many people who will have differences in the sub sections.

Many pro-life people think that exceptions should be made in the case of rape/medical condition.

Many pro-choice people think that late term abortion is still a strict no-no as conditions have changed.

Similarly many pro-choice people think that sex selective abortion is still heinous because abortion in general is gender neutral, but this is a special case where only females are targeted. And I think when it comes to women's issues, especially in India, some of us women tend to get frustrated and a bit carried away.

The labels (pro-choice, pro-life) are too restrictive then. See, I understand that there are rules and exceptions to the rules, but there is no clear consensus on which rule to affirm when it comes to looking at this issue (abort/keep) from the standpoint of the fetus. In that sense, to the fetus, this has become a crapshoot. if we are to defend those who cannot defend themselves, we are doing a lousy job, playing God one minute and "giving life" and playing grim-reaper the next and "taking life". It shouldn't be this way. So before prescribing rules, we should first address who/what a fetus is.

Originally posted by: -IHATEYOU-

At the end of the day the child which will contribute to the society has the right to be born.

Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil

a) If sex-selective abortion is killing + discrimination

then, logically,

ordinary abortion is killing

b) If ordinary abortion is not an act of killing,

then, logically,

sex-selective abortion is not an act of killing but only discrimination.

To be it's either (a) or (b) or else there's a logical inconsistency there somewhere. One can't mix up (a) and (b) and say "sex-selective abortion is killing, but ordinary abortions are not". (No one here has claimed that, but that's a statement you hear around from some people). To me there is a paradox if you don't permit sex-selective abortions on the ground of murder (if you do it for discrimination basis then that's OK) but don't do the same for ordinary abortions.