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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil

I think this is just an animal instinct still present in us (not all, not even most). I think rape in animal kingdom may have had evolutionary benefits (i.e. survival of the species with more offspring) and through the evolutionary chain it has been passed down to us.

I have heard men used to drag women by their hair and rape them during stone ages. Really? That is sad... We might be animals forever.

Thankfully most people have evolved socially so we understand concepts like fairness, morality etc and comprehend the gravity or extent of this nauseating crime. Some just haven't evolved out of their early primate form.

I think that you explination is the best reason I have read about. It fits. Every living thing is made in such a way that it does everything to survive. Yeah, we started like that... so there could be left animalistic things in us. More in the other one than the other. And the other might be better in handling it than the other.
Yes, yet in 2013 I read to much criminality and hear about to much nonsense. Stuff that you could know even if you haven't been educated. It seems like everyone does so much effort not to learn, not to know. I mean how can people think that woman are at fault in rapes? It is sick and depressing.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Baazigar.

No evolutionary chain when human have developed mind we difference between right and wrong. from slave to free. Now woman have to struggle collectively to demand their own right. Only way is woman have to snatch their right from the society collectively.

But why do we have to snatch it? What makes it so hard for them to just give it to us?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil


All animals have "minds" - a few have shown to have advanced/complex brains, similar to ours. What makes ours so different is areas of abstract thoughts and capacity for symbolic expressions (mainly speech/language). This is essentially what drove us so apart from other primates. This is also why we have such complex moral philosophies and ethical systems. We can differentiate between the right from wrong and understand rape is a crime - this is where our intellect, reasoning and morality kicks in. But that is because of social evolution. However, as far as biological evolution goes - all animals follow their basic instincts. We, as a species of superior intelligence, know rape is wrong, murder is wrong, theft is wrong and so on. Because we can override our instinct by our intellect and reasoning, and because we have a more complex moral center somewhere in the brain. I was explaining why rape is common in animal kingdom, and why we, as another animal species (albeit ones with much superior intelligence) is no different. Unless I am mistaken, we now have lower rape rate than we did back in the stone age. It will go down more with stricter punishment and as we socially evolve more.

People who have not evolved out of their primitive mindsets should be locked behind the bars.

Could never have said it better.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: shala786


I have a 4 year old daughter after i found out about the rape and what actually happened i held her and hugged her so tight and i couldn't sleep for nights i couldn't eat ! I was so upset and i couldn't imagine what her mother must have gone through.
To me they aren't if they were they'd not have portray such act on the poor innocent girl and i heard 3 them are pleading not guilty so that means they don't care and not shamed 😭 people who do such deeds are nothing !

Ahw! That is something that shouldn't happen. Indeed. It broke so many hearts, ruined so much lifes, I felt depressed when thinking about the girl only. But like you said even her mother had to go through all those things, things -I hope- I never be able to feel. That pain, that your child had to go through all that. I really can't imagine.
That lawyer, that man got my blood boiling! Arrgh!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Females are mostly viewed as sex objects and subservient beings only. Males are brought up to believe they are more powerful and superior in all respects. They're encouraged to be sex-crazed and dominating. Leering at females, ogling, cheap flirtation, molestation, teasing and forced sex are all considered sign of masculinity.

Even online, males tend to behave in worst ways with females, calling them dirty names or linking themselves to females.

South Asians especially believe a female is always available. If she's outside home, she's available even if she's out for a walk or going to work. If she's alone at home or is close/trusting enough then also she's "available" and can be taken advantage of.

Men believe they can have "fun" and get away by throwing away the girl. A news report claimed that Delhi Gang rape accused had said they didn't know "just a rape" would get them in this much trouble.

Actually people also feel burden of rape lies on females because nothing happens to a man but in a woman's case it becomes evident she's been raped (can tell she's not a virgin, might become pregnant).

Women are viewed as property who can be controlled, protected, stolen. They are never seen as individuals with a mind of their own. No wonder women get beaten up, raped or acid is thrown on their faces to "teach" them a lesson or put them in "their place".

Everybody believes women have certain "limits". Even kids keep dictating to a female what she should do or not do. Even if a female is online, talking freely to everyone or is online late at night or something she's harassed and taken as a loose character woman who's "available" for cheap flirtation.

Crimes against women are mostly hushed up because women themselves feel a sense of shame, are made to hold themselves responsible for attracting such treatment. The "shame" is for the female. Not for the male who perpetrated crime.

Nobody ever says why men raped. It's said men are bound to rape (men will be men). It's asked why a woman wore what she wore, went out or couldn't be careful even within the house. Mostly women are accused of provoking or seducing men or putting themselves in danger.

Comments of politicians, scientists and some reporters in Indian media have amply shown what people's mentality is with regards to women. Even in case of laws they are concerned about women "misusing" laws rather than being stricter on men who do such acts.

Violating a woman is considered okay, "no big deal" and a sign of masculinity, show of power and teaching "lesson" (read putting her in her inferior place) here.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: BrunoMars

Ahw! That is something that shouldn't happen. Indeed. It broke so many hearts, ruined so much lifes, I felt depressed when thinking about the girl only. But like you said even her mother had to go through all those things, things -I hope- I never be able to feel. That pain, that your child had to go through all that. I really can't imagine.
That lawyer, that man got my blood boiling! Arrgh!


I pray that no mother has to face this horrifying act again!
I cant believe how many more rapes are happening ! why men not getting scared why they thinking from their pants and not their brains !

I know making excuse's and blaming jyoti its an outrage !
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: shala786

I myself am on the other side of the world and this has really got me depressed i also thought the about the questions you have been thinking of !

I can not imagine what happened on the bus it gets me so upset and them 6 men how the hell can they do such an act !
My answer is they not human ! they don't have a heart nor feelings to feel guilty ! they not got mother's nor sister's they cold blooded demons !



don't call them men! Those are the animals who can never be or act like human. How could anyone think of this types of act!!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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About reducing crimes or caughting criminals there should invent new types of ideology. But, most of cases criminals gets a easy get away from jail and that's what made them to feel they'll be out. There needs to be harsh punishment for them, punish them as harsh as that they ask for their own death!!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I'm not sure if I can tell you anything about a rapist's mindset. But for what it's worth, they cannot be deemed unintelligent. Their plans of action are always fearless and a lot of times, well executed. They dun have a fear in the world, because

a) Yes, I may not understand their psychology but I know it is touched
b) They dun have fear of punishment because eh, our government acts a little too severely for anyone's good on rape cases.

That's about their heads, I think. We cannot tell for sure. It is a man's way of expressing his mental imbalance, lack of respect toward the female kind and exhibiting their sexual dissatisfaction. 🤓

And yes, because they are so severely troubled in their head, they cannot be moral. They are far from it, even after the act is committed.



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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: shala786


I pray that no mother has to face this horrifying act again!
I cant believe how many more rapes are happening ! why men not getting scared why they thinking from their pants and not their brains !

I know making excuse's and blaming jyoti its an outrage !

Same here, yet so many women have gone through this. With their family. But woman can be so harsh. Here in Europe, in the Netherlands, where people are far more educated -not in the case of the particular woman I am talking about now.-, a mother killed her daughter, coldblood. Why? Because her daughter dated with a Duth man, while she was Muslim. It is sad. Really sad.

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