491 Babies Born Alive After Failed Abortions - Page 4

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Why will you unnecessarily kill a child?
If the mother's life is in danger then still it is acceptable.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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25% of embryos are naturally aborted within 6th week. There is another fraction that will naturally terminate at later stages. So at the moment of conception is it still 100% life or maybe 60% probable life?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ItIsMyLife

If killing a new born baby is crime then so is abortion.



So you would state that biologically embryo = fetus = infant. There is no difference?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades



So you would state that biologically embryo = fetus = infant. There is no difference?


No.
Fetus is the younger version of a new born.
As new born is a younger version of toddler.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

25% of embryos are naturally aborted within 6th week. There is another fraction that will naturally terminate at later stages. So at the moment of conception is it still 100% life or maybe 60% probable life?


If a person is 60% burnt there is very less probability of the person surviving.
But we don't kill the person.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ItIsMyLife

Why will you unnecessarily kill a child?
If the mother's life is in danger then still it is acceptable.

Considering the risks associated with an abortion I would presume that no one would go for it unless they felt it necessary.

Originally posted by: ItIsMyLife


If a person is 60% burnt there is very less probability of the person surviving.
But we don't kill the person.

Let us get it clear that its not always about the baby's prospects of surviving. In some cases eg rape, contraception failure, or unplanned pregnancy its about the woman not wanting to be a mother at that time and under those circumstances. Concerns about her own health or the baby's health could also be one reason. Views would vary whether the woman should exercise the option of preventing the birth of a baby she does not want at that time or should she be forced to go through the pregnancy and become a mother and care for a child she does not want or she feels inadequate to care for. IMO Motherhood ought to be a voluntary and pleasant experience and under no circumstances should it be forced upon any person. Some would perceive motherhood as a responsibility individually as well as socially which is unlikely to be fulfilled in cases of forced motherhood.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#37
Nice, guess I should start my journey at DM with this topic... Will be back in a while after am done reading everything here... But for now... I think it's one's personal choice to keep a fetus or not. It's fine to abort at anytime, as long as you aren't killing an already born infant. Does that make it sound any better? No, it doesn't... but you are still less attached to a fetus growing somewhere inside you than to a physical being you can cuddle... makes sense? 😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
#38
If fr some reason a mother fails to abort the baby then after 9 months the baby will born.
At that time if the mother kills the baby then she will be termed as killer.
Then why does the same thing not applicable for abortion?
A life is a life.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well a very valid debate hot on the tails of the recently concluded American Presidential elections...

I see both Pro-Life Vs Pro-choice working largely for a common bigger objective, agree or not Pro-choice in any other way doesn't support increase in abortions rather it facilitates an individualistic rational approach before bringing a life to this world

I personally am a Pro-Choice person, because i think it is very necessary that the ultimate autonomy of reproduction should be constricted in the hands of the individual only and no one should influence it in any other way. Cases in point like rape, teen pregnancies, poverty and illness (the recent case of nurse dying in Ireland coz she was denied Abortion), so we cannot mitigate the circumstances when this drastic decision is taken. A 15 year old might not be in the right frame of mind to raise a kid as well as her body might not be mature enough for pregnancy, we cannot make a decision for her at that stage.

Now to the argument that fetus has life coz it has DNA , well i disagree scientifically even tonsils are also alive and human , yet we remove them and dont think twice ( read here i m not comparing a baby with tonsil but with the DNA-containing egg at its primitive stage) and you are not branded a killer!

Pro-Life might bring female foeticide as an argument well there the problem is not abortion but the mindset of the parents and society. And for religious arguments i will say its a very personal and individual thing and so is pregnancy.

See , more than this debate i feel no laws should be based on religious or philosophical convictions, the same goes for this., if you want to reduce abortions then work on providing sex education, better living standards, more health awareness and gender equality but not indulge in moral policing, I fear this has become far too political and has lost touch with the basis intent



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Posted: 12 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: ItIsMyLife

If fr some reason a mother fails to abort the baby then after 9 months the baby will born.
At that time if the mother kills the baby then she will be termed as killer.
Then why does the same thing not applicable for abortion?
A life is a life.

The mother will be termed a killer if she kills a full term baby born after 9 months as she now has the option of giving up the baby to be raised by someone else in case she is unable or unwilling to raise the child herself. This option is unavailable to her in case of a foetus before it reaches the age of vaibility (late 2nd trimester). The foetus being incapable of surviving outside the mother's uterus will die once it has been expelled out. There is a difference between the two situations.

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