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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yes rapists should be castrated and hung.
No second chance.
In some countries often it is the victim who is locked up and charged. Happened in Malaysia too. Corruption n bribery.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Xoxo

Okies.

A civilised guy won't rape a girl even if she walked naked infront of him - And i think someone pointed that out here. On the other hand A civilised girl, wouldn't walk naked infront of guys either... it takes two to create a crime. Clothes is important, a girl should always dress modestly to avoid tags like 'shes easy to get' based on the attire she wears. People label others based on what they wear, its judgemental but it is true. I am guilty of doing it all the time. If i saw someone walking in Burqa, my first impression would be that person is pretty religious. If i saw someone all in black with thick black eye liner, id label them Gothic. If i saw a girl, smoking on the streets, with half her tits out, slapped with makeup and wearing the shortest skirt one can possibly imagine, my first impression 'She is easy to get'. Call me judgemental for that, but im sure all are guilty of it. Dressing is important, there is nothing wrong showing flesh, as long as its not done in excess and the person is able to carry it gracefully.

Anyways the point im trying to make. Decent guys, will never rape a girl even if she had a body like Pamela Anderson and wore nothing and a decent girl doesnt dress like 'easy to get'.

Xoxo

I was listening to the news yesterday and some Syrian women were saying that the women in Syria are being raped by the soldiers of the dictator over there...I can assure you that none of them were wearing shortest of the short skirts or have their breasts hanging out...most probably these women were covered from head to toe...and they still were raped...so NO...when it comes to a henious crime like rape...it doesn't take two...the responsibility of this crime lies 100 % with the rapist...
Yes we can judge about the character of a girl by the way she dresses...but does that give anyone the right to rape her...absolutely not...I wish people would stop trying to put the responsibilty of the rape on the victime somehow...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Xoxo

@ blue ice i absolutely agree with you - Sorry if my post came across if i was supporting rape LOL... I was just sl*gging off the girls that dress inappropriately, and think it looks ' hot' 😆, but obviously that doesnt mean they are open to any predators 😃...

Xoxo

No it did not come across as u supporting rape...I just felt like u put some blame of the rape happening on the girl too...of course I totally agree that girls need to dress appropriately...but if some choose not to do that...it doesn't give someone a license to rape them... Its the same thing as a prostitute or a po*n artist getting raped and then the blame being put on them that its OK because they are already doing it for their living...there is no excuse for rape.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Oh soldiers, they are worse than animals; especially when they are fighting in other countries.

I hate all foreign invading forces, they somehow end up causing more problems.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: blue-ice

No it did not come across as u supporting rape...I just felt like u put some blame of the rape happening on the girl too...of course I totally agree that girls need to dress appropriately...but if some choose not to do that...it doesn't give someone a license to rape them... Its the same thing as a prostitute or a po*n artist getting raped and then the blame being put on them that its OK because they are already doing it for their living...there is no excuse for rape.

To think of it rape is often the result of Bollywood movie scenes too.😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Summer3

To think of it rape is often the result of Bollywood movie scenes too.😆

yeah...if the rape is committed by someone under 13 years old...over that one is supposed to know right from wrong.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: blue-ice

yeah...if the rape is committed by someone under 13 years old...over that one is supposed to know right from wrong.

Most rapists are someone whom the victim knows.
Chldren should be taught to be wary from young. Cases of molest and abuse are pretty common these days.
In USA a father shot his own teenage son upon learning that he had sexually abused a girl. so sad
Juvernile crime cases are usually handled separately in most countries as most of the perpetrators do not fully aware or in the know.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The problem with this discussion is those who say "men have no right to rape" and "those men who rape are animals and are nor real men" etc. are just heavily emotionally driven in this argument.

This guy/girl King-Anu has hit the nail on the head. It is not about what should be or should not be. It is about practicality.

If I leave my laptop, a stack of $$$ cash, a gold chain and a stack of documents with my SSN and credit card info on an unattended bench in a crowded mall for an hour (being too generous here) and expect everything to be in tact after an hour... I need some treatment.. mental one.
That does not mean that those who stole my valuables along with my identity are any less of a criminal. And that is where an intelligent person detaches emotions from logic. They would take care of their belongings knowing that there are thieves out there. No, I should not have been robbed but thinking that leaving those stuff unattended will not cause them to be robbed.. well, that is neanderthal.
No matter what punishment the criminals get.. I am still robbed.

Think about your safety first.. and then second and third.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheUltimate

The problem with this discussion is those who say "men have no right to rape" and "those men who rape are animals and are nor real men" etc. are just heavily emotionally driven in this argument.

This guy/girl King-Anu has hit the nail on the head. It is not about what should be or should not be. It is about practicality.

If I leave my laptop, a stack of $$$ cash, a gold chain and a stack of documents with my SSN and credit card info on an unattended bench in a crowded mall for an hour (being too generous here) and expect everything to be in tact after an hour... I need some treatment.. mental one.
That does not mean that those who stole my valuables along with my identity are any less of a criminal. And that is where an intelligent person detaches emotions from logic. They would take care of their belongings knowing that there are thieves out there. No, I should not have been robbed but thinking that leaving those stuff unattended will not cause them to be robbed.. well, that is neanderthal.
No matter what punishment the criminals get.. I am still robbed.

Think about your safety first.. and then second and third.



In essence, a woman should leave the house only in a burka because her integrity might be stolen and trampled any minute if it is left out for view in all its glory? Correct? Then they might as well lock themselves in the house and never get out. Where do you draw the line? Burka from head to toe with only eye slits for an opening? Jeans and a headcover? Full sleeved shirts with long drab skirts? Loose clothing? Tight clothing? Mini skirts? Bikini? Just where? Just what is supposed to separate her from being a living breathing human to a property lying on the beach side? The fact is, women get raped in every part of the world whether they are fully covered or naked. The onus therefore lies on the men that rape, not women that choose to express themselves through their choice in clothing. If only women that dressed "promiscuously" were raped, your logic would be sound. Since, that is not the case, I find that reasoning fallible.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dexterkichokri


In essence, a woman should leave the house only in a burka because her integrity might be stolen and trampled any minute if it is left out for view in all its glory? Correct? Then they might as well lock themselves in the house and never get out. Where do you draw the line? Burka from head to toe with only eye slits for an opening? Jeans and a headcover? Full sleeved shirts with long drab skirts? Loose clothing? Tight clothing? Mini skirts? Bikini? Just where? Just what is supposed to separate her from being a living breathing human to a property lying on the beach side? The fact is, women get raped in every part of the world whether they are fully covered or naked. The onus therefore lies on the men that rape, not women that choose to express themselves through their choice in clothing. If only women that dressed "promiscuously" were raped, your logic would be sound. Since, that is not the case, I find that reasoning fallible.



Hyperbole... works sometimes.. but when it does not, it makes audience laugh and laugh more.

First, in case you missed, no one condones a rapist man. Sorry to crash your hopes.

Now, then, to your question, it is not about clothing (as much as you would looove to make it). It is about a woman's common sense, being foolish to provoke a beast and not being vigilant. Get it?? Again, as much as you would love to make it about clothing, it is not. It is about a woman's vigilance.

In my example, I should not be robbed no matter I left $1 or $100 in an unattended crowded area. Similarly, bank robberies, car burglaries, home invasions, random shootings, drunk driving etc. should not happen. No one, including the government disagrees. This does not take onus off the citizens to be vigilant. Only a simpleton would think otherwise.

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