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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: King-Anu

1- Who the heck told you that a cultural thing or a tradition cannot be based on double standards. I think it is applying different standards on two people in same situation i..e marriage. We have a tradition or changing girl's last name. This is double standards on part of society.
2- So used un-virgin men asking for virgin wife is a cultural thing and tradition? It happes but I won't call such a situation a tradition/culture. "More of a cultural thing and that is inequality, not a double standard."

3- We have a situation here i.e. marriage and different standards are being applied to two people involved. One is asking the other to be un-used while himself he is used. That's double standards and hypocrisy on the part of that person and not inequality
Thanks for your response.



So, not only you are ignorant of the definition of double standards or hypocrisy but now you are letting your guards off and putting up a show for us. You are stupid.

Do you understand the concept of double standards at all? How about hypocrisy? How about intelligence?

Ok, here it is in simple terms, sweetie - all your diatribe about men/women inequality can be easily shot down. Society does not have double standards because it cannot have double standards for two different genders. Get it??

Double standards usually involve one target person, group of people, one condition etc. - a single entity. Society does not choose women randomly to decide who should change the name after marriage (again, there is no law but that is a sidebar).

If you think two standards are defined for male and female in marriages... well, that is inequality between the genders. Males are usually not expected to be primary cook after marriage - that is a single standard.

Is it clear? I tried hard to dumb it down to your level.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheUltimate

Sorry, but I disagree that #2 in your example is double standard. If a boy thinks that regardless of male's virginity, female should be a virgin at the time of marriage... well, then, he has all the rights to have that opinion.

Remember, we are talking from the boy's perspective. He has double standards only if he thinks differently about the status of virginity (at the time of marriage) when it comes to different females and hold them to different standards.

We can surely agree to disagree.




I agree that he has the right to that opinion but that fact that he is biased towards his own gender, shows that he has double standard. It doesn't matter if he has a right to his opinion or not, or even if he is being unfair or not, the fact is, that he has a different standard for boys and a different standard for girls, so that's why I interpret it as Double standards, irrespective of what parties are involved, be it different girls, or genders, or sibling,etc.are double standards. but I said before, people interpret things differently so sometimes there isn't other go than to agree to disagree.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: osama-bin-joe




I agree that he has the right to that opinion but that fact that he is biased towards his own gender, shows that he has double standard. It doesn't matter if he has a right to his opinion or not, or even if he is being unfair or not, the fact is, that he has a different standard for boys and a different standard for girls, so that's why I interpret it as Double standards, irrespective of what parties are involved, be it different girls, or genders, or sibling,etc.are double standards. but I said before, people interpret things differently so sometimes there isn't other go than to agree to disagree.



Again, if a boy is consistent that a girl should be virgin (no matter that girl is his future wife or his sister) at the time of their marriage, he holds a single standard.

Whether it is right or not, he is biased or not, etc. are not relevant. He has a standard for a gender.

Now, you can step back and say that a boy holds double standards when it comes to the virginity of two humans at the time of marriage... but that is not the point of discussion at the moment. Also, it would be a messed up argument since marriage and gender are related.. an argument, nonetheless.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheUltimate



Again, if a boy is consistent that a girl should be virgin (no matter that girl is his future wife or his sister) at the time of their marriage, he holds a single standard.
you're right, it is a single standard, but you didn't mention him being a non virgin, is that double standards according to you or not? If it's not, then your suggestion of agreeing to disagree is bang on 😆

Whether it is right or not, he is biased or not, etc. are not relevant. He has a standard for a gender. by that do you mean a standard for each gender or that he is only looking into one gender and making a decision about that gender.



As I observed from this post of yours , you look into the fact that he is only deciding a standard for the girl and not specifying a standard for boys. What I say is that his status as a virgin is important because, if he is a virgin, then it is not double standards, but if he isn't then you can(not must, ie not a necessity or unarguable fact, otherwise we wouldn't be debating on this matter) look at it as implied double standards.

More about interpretation than anything else.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheUltimate



Again, if a boy is consistent that a girl should be virgin (no matter that girl is his future wife or his sister) at the time of their marriage, he holds a single standard.

Whether it is right or not, he is biased or not, etc. are not relevant. He has a standard for a gender.
If he has a standard for a gender the poster had a standard for a human being that only a virgin should expect a virgin. Hence it can be considered as double standard.

Now, you can step back and say that a boy holds double standards when it comes to the virginity of two humans at the time of marriage... but that is not the point of discussion at the moment. Also, it would be a messed up argument since marriage and gender are related.. an argument, nonetheless.
How is that a messed up argument !? 😕 Besides marriage and gender dont have to be elated any longer as same gender marriages are being accepted.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Whatever.


Point I am trying to make is, i had a discussion with this guy who wasnt a virgin, he married a girl who also wasn't a virgin but she had repented and was regretful for her mistake, and he also was regretful for his actions, now he divorced her becasue he could picture her having sex with other guys 😵 he was uncomfortable being around her sexually becasue she had been with someone else, so bang he divorced her. So now he married a virgin and he claims a woman never forgets her first intercourse unlike man who does the hit and run and plus it's important to marry a pure chaste lady because of their furture kids..nuff said, double standards or not, pathetic much.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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You are welcome. I kinda gave you that argument. Anyway, I still believe it is twisted.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: P1nk

Whatever.


Point I am trying to make is, i had a discussion with this guy who wasnt a virgin, he married a girl who also wasn't a virgin but she had repented and was regretful for her mistake, and he also was regretful for his actions, now he divorced her becasue he could picture her having sex with other guys 😵 he was uncomfortable being around her sexually becasue she had been with someone else, so bang he divorced her. So now he married a virgin and he claims a woman never forgets her first intercourse unlike man who does the hit and run and plus it's important to marry a pure chaste lady because of their furture kids..nuff said, double standards or not, pathetic much.



Holy cow! And here I thought that virginity was just an example. You opened the thread with that in mind and not double standards. O...K.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hmm so now we are looking at a real life situation,
That guy should be hung for being being a real B.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Summer3

Hmm so now we are looking at a real life situation,
That guy should be hung for being being a real B.



OK, I will play. Tell us why that guys should be hung.

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