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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: chatbuster

lemme put a few of these myself 😕

there's a distinction between quoting someone and between exhorting others to blindly agree to a certain viewpoint because of that quote or implying that they do so. IMO first can be educational and legitimate. second to my mind is the kind of knee-jerk conclusion that doesnt have much analytical merit. i cannot be sure how u were coming at it in this regard, so my comment was not specifically directed at you. in any event, i think i can suggest why i dont want to be a simple rubber-stamp going along with what others have quoted without it being taken personally, cant i?

why would somebody quote someone without having a clear intent to endorse a viewpoint in an argument - or is it that you think quoting somebody is just a style?😆

You dont have to agree with anyone and surely can resort to your analysis and as you willing distance yourself from this league of extra-ordinary individuals happy in your own ivory tower.. that will help debaters at an early stage to realize the futility of debating your points..😆

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

QT wonderful post... 👏 the lack of understanding of the bold portion by many debaters still remains a mystery to me.. the classic rebuttal is "do we need western acknowledgement to be good" The basic thinking mechanism is absent and superceded by a reactionary impulse...

There is no reason to apologize after making a perfectly valid point, it might get atttributed to high-handed sarcasm..😆

So its waste of time quoting greats like Gandhi, Einstein,... in any debates...where primary interest of debaters is mindless meandering...😊

remains a mystery? well, u just might want to actually read through some of the last couple of pages in that case.😉😆

mindless meandering? haha, reminds me of that story of the pot, the kettle and mr. black. 😆

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: chatbuster

remains a mystery? well, u just might want to actually read through some of the last couple of pages in that case.😉😆

mindless meandering? haha, reminds me of that story of the pot, the kettle and mr. black. 😆

Just to read the refrain.. with no evident signs of learning being relentful to logically valid points...😆 the mindless meandering was meant to reflect a view point where the argument was not leading anywhere in a systematic manner but rather...playing the mole in the hole kinda never ending game...

Edited by qwertyesque - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT



my earlier post is in response to the above verdana underlined. I aleady said multiple times that einstein's view on gandhi was just to provide information as to certain other thinkers actually look at the power of civil disobedience and non violence. I also agreed that it was used as antispam.
I SAID 15 times in last 4 pages that it had no more substance. It still gets quoted and I get quoted and accused of throwing others' thoughts in debate. Guess what?? I have logically argued how it belonged in the thread. I did not quote it and say "LOOK, These are the words of God, so be convinced😆 " I am not trying to convince anyone at all as I am not convinced myself. If learning HISTORY for years and watching politics of independent India for last 50 years still allows for such 37 PAGE DEBATE to happen, who am I and how would my thoughts matter anyway?? TRUTHFULLY, I have NO THOUGHTS ON THIS. I am on BOTH THE SIDES / ON FENCE. So what?? None of you has convinced me in past 37 pages to take any side either! Nobody can and ever will.. I never had options to run out of any & it doesn't matter.
I have loved what each of you has said in this thread, until right now. I should thank you all for enlightening me about things that had slipped my history pages. That you did not convince me, doesn't mean you didn;t help me look at the issue in another light. I was hoping for Einstein to do the same for you.. I failed and am out of here. See you in other thread Rahul, Vineet and Qwerty. 😃
Please continue your original debate barring my unconvincing quoted blabber. 😆😆 I am outta this thread.

look if someone is saying that so-and-so-said this, so it is right, then i dont buy that line of reasoning. it's the kind of reasoning i think we might have grown out of when we left high school. fwiw, i thought that that suggestive line of reasoning was someone else's approach here, not yours, though you seem to think it was yours. i love those quotes myself, do find them educational and was not attributing anything to you. it's how it later got used that i am talking about.

on the debate, i feel we are doing ok, though i'd have thought that people more knowledgeable than myself on this topic would have come up with better

Edited by chatbuster - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
Okay then, I understand Rahul.. It is probably my 23rd pair of XX chormosomes that created a delusion that it is all about me 😆 😆
Apologies for mis-interpreting & the same to you to qwerty and vineet & to you Mr. Einstein.. 😉 😆
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

Okay then, I understand Rahul.. It is probably my 23rd pair of XX chormosomes that created a delusion that it is all about me 😆 😆
Apologies for mis-interpreting & the same to you to qwerty and vineet & to you Mr. Einstein.. 😉 😆

Can u apologize on every even numbered post?😆 which will leave us the odd post to bash u...

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Can u apologize on every even numbered post?😆 which will leave us the odd post to bash u...


😡 stop dreaming right there buddy .
My time allocated to being nice is over.. 😉 😆😆
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Posted: 18 years ago
What exactly are we apologizing for here?

for quoting Einstein

Or

for not listening to Einstein?

I lost track in all the meandering there 😉
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Posted: 18 years ago

del. no more einstein from my side😊

Edited by chatbuster - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: sareg

What exactly are we apologizing for here?

for quoting Einstein

Or

for not listening to Einstein?

I lost track in all the meandering there 😉

No for not casting aspersions on Einsteins ability to think...and his allegiance to honest appreciation for Gandhi...😉

beware u can still meander.. .in the wilderness of pointless opinions.😆

Edited by qwertyesque - 18 years ago

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