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Posted: 13 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil

First off, to all the matured and rational members I have ended up offending and demeaning in the last ten pages of the recent WW3 thread that got locked up, let me apologize. I took a more rational and inoffensive approach in the first 26 or so pages when a proper discussion was going, but then lost my head once it took the U-turn. This is not a justification of my behavior, but I'd still like to acknowledge my mistake. If I had the editing option open, I'd edit some of my insulting and irrational posts in the last ten pages. Oh and if anyone who is not worthy of my apology is deluded into believing it's for him/her too, then read my first statement again. 😆

LOL so the apology is not directed at anyone since matured and rational people would not be expected to feel offended 😆
Now to the topic at hand. I am a highly intolerant and hotheaded person in real life. In fact, it is DM that somewhat calmed me down to an extent. Before, I couldn't take opposing viewpoints without crying foul, could not rationally argue with people without attacking them personally or loosing my head, could not even distinguish between bashing and argument, debate and fight, etc.
I didnt know that there was a difference 😲
After joining here, I got to see the other side of the coin, found out that my side could be wrong too, and my opposition might have a point as well that I am missing out. I can still get very intolerable and irrational when blood rushes to my head and the rational faculties of my brain stop working temporarily. 😆
So put the blame on the blood 😃

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Posted: 13 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: zorrro

LOL so the apology is not directed at anyone since matured and rational people would not be expected to feel offended 😆


Why not? Feeling offended is the most natural reaction to homo-sapiens. Even the most matured and rational person does, too. 😆

Originally posted by: zorrro

I didnt know that there was a difference 😲


I didn't mean there is a difference. I wanted to imply I am intolerant and hotheaded both in the real and virtual world, just that joining DM has helped me reduce that to an extent. 😆

Originally posted by: zorrro

So put the blame on the blood 😃


😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I like your post and have wondered about it myself and this is what I have come up with:

All of us are born with a firm beleif in something or the other and when that beleif is shaken or is at stake, we become intolerant. It isn't why some people are intolerant, it is what makes one intolerant. It could be anything ranging from religion, sex, role of women in the society or just about anything under the sun.

When I say beleif, I don't mean just the beleif in God or religion or a certain way a government must function, though these seem to be the popular ones. It's that innermost feeling or thought on which your whole life is based. An identity without which you would feel incomplete or at a loss. When that is shaken, one feels insecure about one's life and the way they have lived it. Which is probably why the older people seem to be more intolerant than the young.
Probably an anology would illustrate my point better. Consider a woman is of the idea that educating girls is wrong and that they must not be allowed to work and that her place is only in the kitchen. This is what she concluded looking at her ancestors or a few incidences where something went wrong because the family decided to send their daughters to work. Now, because of this beleif, she has denied herself the right to education and has also denied her daughters and DIL of it. Now if one were to go and tell her that she is wrong, she'll probably first laugh at you and then maybe show her intolerance towards the subject. How she shows it, is probably something nobody can fathom.
I may show intolerence towards something to which you may be totally cool about. It all depends on one's way of life and one's upbringing.

One may say, "I'm very rational and that I'm not intolarant towards anything". That necessarily may not be the truth. It could just be that one may not have come across a reason to be intolerant.

The exhibition of intolerance or the way one deals with it varies from person to person.. Some may take the extreme measure and decide on murdering the person(s) responsible. That could be due to various reasons, psychology of the individual being the most important. Looking at how one's parents and siblings cope up with it could be one of the many reasons and ofcourse education and religion and a hundred other things.

Hope I made sense 😆😆
Edited by Petrouska - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Petrouska

I like your post and have wondered about it myself and this is what I have come up with:

All of us are born with a firm beleif in something or the other and when that beleif is shaken or is at stake, we become intolerant. It isn't why some people are intolerant, it is what makes one intolerant. It could be anything ranging from religion, sex, role of women in the society or just about anything under the sun.

When I say beleif, I don't mean just the beleif in God or religion or a certain way a government must function, though these seem to be the popular ones. It's that innermost feeling or thought on which your whole life is based. An identity without which you would feel incomplete or at a loss. When that is shaken, one feels insecure about one's life and the way they have lived it. Which is probably why the older people seem to be more intolerant than the young.
I may show intolerence towards something to which you may be totally cool about. It all depends on one's way of life and one's upbringing.

One may say, "I'm very rational and that I'm not intolarant towards anything". That necessarily may not be the truth. It could just be that one may not have come across a reason to be intolerant.

The exhibition of intolerance or the way one deals with it varies from person to person.. Some may take the extreme measure and decide on murdering the person(s) responsible. That could be due to various reasons, psychology of the individual being the most important. Looking at how one's parents and siblings cope up with it could be one of the many reasons and ofcourse education and religion and a hundred other things.

Hope I made sense 😆😆

You did 😆
The way we react to these situations could be learned behaviour. The more such intolerance is tolerated the more intolerable it gets 😕
Edited by zorrro - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Modern Day Tolerance

Does freedom of religion warrant protection against this discrimination?

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/kentucky-church-bans-interracial-marriage-150009470.html

A small Kentucky church has chosen to ban marriages and even some worship services for interracial couples. The Gulnare Freewill Baptist Church, located in Pike County, made the vote in response to a longtime member who is engaged to a man whose birthplace is in Zimbabwe.

Other pastoral leaders in the area were quick to denounce the church's vote. "It's not the spirit of the community in any way, shape or form," Randy Johnson, president of the Pike County Ministerial Association, told the Lexington Herald-Leader.

The small congregation, which usually hosts about 40 members each Sunday, held the vote after longtime member Stella Harville, brought her fianc Ticha Chikuni to church with her in June. The couple performed a song together at the church in which Chikuni sang "I Surrender All," while Harville played the piano.

Chikuni, 29, who works at Georgetown College, is black--and Harville, who was baptized at the church but is not an active member, is white. Dean Harville, Stella's father, said he was told by the church's former pastor Melvin Thompson that his daughter and her fianc were not allowed to sing at the church again. However, Thompson recently stepped down and the church's new pastor, Stacy Stepp, said the couple was once again welcome to sing.

Stepp's decision prompted Thompson to put forth a recommendation saying that while all members are welcome at the church, it does not "condone" interracial marriage, and that any interracial couples would not be received as members or allowed to participate in worship services. The only exception? Funerals.

The Harville family has formally requested the congregation to reconsider the interracial ban, and Thompson has also said he would like to resolve the issue, the area CBS affiliate WYMT has reported.

A copy of the recommendation, obtained by WYMT, reads in part:

That the Gulnare Freewill Baptist Church does not condone interracial marriage. Parties of such marriages will not be received as members, nor will they be used in worship services and other church functions, with the exception being funerals. All are welcome to our public worship services. This recommendation is not intended to judge the salvation of anyone, but is intended to promote greater unity among the church body and the community we serve.

Members of the church held a vote on Thompson's proposed language, with nine voting in favor and six voting against. The other members in attendance chose not to vote.

Gawker notes that Pike County is 98 percent white and home to the infamous Hatfield-McCoy feud.

The Harville family doesn't see Gulnare's new policy promoting anything like unity or civil peace. "They're the people who are supposed to comfort me in times like these," Stella Harville said.

And Stella's father was much more forceful in his denunciation of the interracial ban. "It sure ain't Christian," Dean Harville said. "It ain't nothing but the old devil working."




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Posted: 13 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: zorrro


</div>I could come up with a lot more than 20 but should that be cause to turn violent is
<div>the question.


Anger at wrong doings is positive and good. But tact is another matter.
Still in life we often need to hiss but but not necessarily bite.
Some want greater say and have issues with the Govt. The Middleeast is going through a major change and these days dictatorship and rule by fear is no longer acceptable.
Edited by Summer3 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: angie.4u

The threshold for feeling offended varies amongst individuals. It need not always be issue specific. Several factors contribute towards it. If handled in a sensitive manner most contentious issues can be discussed amicably. A mocking tone is bound to make the opponent retaliate likewise. Those who know their subject well are usually able to argue in an intelligent and informative manner without feeling offended. Some do welcome the opportunity to set right some misunderstandings or misconceptions that may have existed. Then there are some who take offense from the word go as they have no answers whatsoever nor do they wish to find them out. They are quite comfortable with their status quo and would resist all attempts to disturb it.

So intolerance could be due to insecurity as someone said earlier or also due to ignorance. Offense works here as a defense 🤓
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Posted: 13 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: Summer3

If we can progress in our own chosen path we have no time for disagreements. The imperfections we see could very well be in our own minds.

Hijacked a few quotes from the spam thread as these ought to belong here anyway 😆
Well said summer bhai 😃 If we are confident about our own path we need not become offended by what others say.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Intolerance results from when a person is not able to control the situation. It may be due to getting too emotional and feeling very insecure. Of course, it can also be a natural reaction, ranging from low to high.
Some people have the tendency to impose self-control, while others don't.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think it's the fear that they may be wrong which causes them to be intolerant.

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