History v/s Science - Page 4

Originally posted by: -Murphy369-

You can say this, mugging up means to read and memorize something blindly.

Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil

Understanding does imply knowledge. But sometimes it's not possible to store large amount of information in your brain with just understanding - we may need to forcibly store them and in a way that we are most probably not likely to forget them. That's where memorizing comes into play. I don't see anything wrong with that as long as one isn't misusing it. Now memorizing without understanding is not just wrong, but is also counter-productive; it will lead up to nothing eventually if one doesn't understand the context in which case it is used for.

Originally posted by: Savage

Don't you think the very idea of exam is misleading? What the devil would it test out of all that we are taught for months and years together if it is all a matter of 'intense study before the exam'? 😳

Behind every Science there will be a History...and History repeats itself different ways & you can make History and some history says about science If you took all of the veins from your body and laid them end to end, you would die ... if anyone feel difficult to understand this science? Try Religion. 😉😛

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Actually understanding requires less room than memorizing. When you understand how to solve arithmetic you can solve all simple problems. Your brain needs to merely learn basic solving skills. However, when you memorize sums and tables etc you can't solve all simple problems. You struggle with some. Your brain needs to memorize more and more to get the answers right.

Memorization is not necessary but a convenient skill. When you get a complex problem like 6538 * 9532 you may solve it by applying your math knowledge, but knowing 8*2 = 16 and 3*2 = 6 by heart just makes the processing faster. When you understand math you know to by heart only key tables, key formulas, and other key activities to make solving efficient. When you don't understand math you burden your mind by filling it with lots of data that is often unnecessary and does not help your solving skills.

While the examples here are on math, this is true with any subject.

Nope. Mugging is not studying intensely. Mugging is basically cramming as much data as you can in your brain. By hearting the most tables, by hearting the most answers, by hearting every textbook question and answer as you can. Mugging does not focus on understanding, nor does it focus on expanding knowledge to address non cookie cutter textbook problems.

Everyone studies intensely for exams and ought to study, but mugging will get you nowhere as you just regurgitate information and learn nothing. I'd say you pretty much are against mugging, but are supporting it because you had no idea what it entails.

Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil

I don't see how that's a contradiction. People needs to study intensely before exams even if it's something they understand thoroughly.

Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil

When I said studying before exams, I didn't necessary mean just studying before the day of the exam. I meant, studying and preparing for the exam with the flow. As exams come nearer, the pace and speed of ones catching up with the curriculum rises. This is even found in the most studious and serious students. Without exams and results there would be no way to determine the student's educational ability.

I agree that the Asian system of education and exams isn't the best. It's based more on assimilating a large stack of information and cramming everything there is to study in your brain, rather than focusing on whether the student actually understands the subject and can apply theories in practical aspects.

Originally posted by: anahita.taanu

there is nothing 2 understand in history! u just need 2 mug it up actually! sienece needs sum understanding... ratta will not help there... but if 1 asks a more relevant suvbject for students.. it must be scienece.. bcauze if u dont study history u lose sum but if u dont study scienece u loose more! and in terms of stgudents chice..most of the time its science over history!

the most of history ppl noe.. i mean the freedom sturggle and stuff.. but what will we do if we find sum hidden stuff ins oil.. we cn just show off we got sum.. u cnt make sumthing huge out of it... there is no use.. history is history.. why 2 repeat it.. science leads 2 sum development!

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

The idea of exams is to benchmark students learning and determine what level of knowledge they are ready for.

You can't build anything in air. You have to first set the foundation, then construct upwards. If you don't check your craftsmanship every step of the way, the structure will eventually fall. Exams are necessary to test the foundation and structure of learning every step of the way. That way students whose foundation or structure is weak have it reinforced before more is built upon it.

Exams also help us determine what people like and are good at so that they study the right things. For the good of society people should do things they are capable and interested in. If people are incapable or uninterested their work is shoddy and sub par. Exams help us determine if people are actually interested and capable in the subject matter.

The problem is not the exam but the education system and the way exams are designed and administered. Rather than a productive and valuable skill tests exams have been reduced to rat races on who can beat the system best.