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Posted: 13 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: return_to_hades
Don't you think that understanding and mugging are contradictions?

If you mug it up, you have not understood it.
If you understood it, you don't need to mug it up.

Unless you understand somethings and mug up what you don't or mug up first and then understand only what you can later.

I don't see how that's a contradiction. People needs to study intensely before exams even if it's something they understand thoroughly.

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Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil

I don't see how that's a contradiction. People needs to study intensely before exams even if it's something they understand thoroughly.

👍🏼 that's correct

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Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil

Nah, I honestly didn't know. Did a google search on mug up and got as a phrase meaning studying intensely before exams. Is that correct?

Not always before exams, I study and mug up as fast as possible, don't wait for the exams to near.

"Study quickly, revise"

You can say this, mugging up means to read and memorize something blindly.

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#24

Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil

I don't see how that's a contradiction. People needs to study intensely before exams even if it's something they understand thoroughly.

Don't you think the very idea of exam is misleading? What the devil would it test out of all that we are taught for months and years together if it is all a matter of 'intense study before the exam'? 😳

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#25

Originally posted by: Savage
Don't you think the very idea of exam is misleading? What the devil would it test out of all that we are taught for months and years together if it is all a matter of 'intense study before the exam'? 😳

Sometimes only understanding wouldn't do. We may also need to acquire knowledge. Also, for students like me, exam time is the only time I actually study. 😆

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#26

Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil

I don't see how that's a contradiction. People needs to study intensely before exams even if it's something they understand thoroughly.

It is a HUGE contradiction. It does not matter if you study intensely or none at all. You could be studying intensely to understand the material and not mug it.

Mugging by definition is anti-understanding. You store data on the brain like a disk. A disk can store and spit out data but does not understand it.

Understanding by definition is anti-mugging. You understand the data. You know how it processes and flows. You dont store it but can process outputs based on the inputs.

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#27

Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil

Sometimes only understanding wouldn't do. We may also need to acquire knowledge. Also, for students like me, exams is the only time I actually study. 😆

I am sure you know this - MOSTLY everybody is like you. The whole idea of 'study because exam's arriving' is so promoted, like hell yeah. So you see, the system is oblivious to the kind of idea it is imparting and also the machines for people it is manufacturing. They don't care, and neither do most students which is why examination is a very misleading term. I do support revision before exam, but principally to check on what I have learnt all the while. I dun think last minute study ever does good in the long run. And the long run is what our system does not worry about. Hence, we wouldn't remember anything historic or scientific after finishing the exam to debate, would we?

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Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil

Sometimes only understanding wouldn't do. We may also need to acquire knowledge. Also, for students like me, exams is the only time I actually study. 😆

Doesn't understanding imply knowledge? 😕

The only way to know something is to understand something. You may mug the fact that 1+1 = 2. But unless you understand how addition works you don't know addition.

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#29

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Doesn't understanding imply knowledge? 😕

The only way to know something is to understand something. You may mug the fact that 1+1 = 2. But unless you understand how addition works you don't know addition.

Understanding does imply knowledge. But sometimes it's not possible to store large amount of information in your brain with just understanding - we may need to forcibly store them and in a way that we are most probably not likely to forget them. That's where memorizing comes into play. I don't see anything wrong with that as long as one isn't misusing it. Now memorizing without understanding is not just wrong, but is also counter-productive; it will lead up to nothing eventually if one doesn't understand the context in which case it is used for.

We know and understand that 6 X 6 = 36 (and why and how that happens). And yet, children are made to memorize multiplication tables for better accesses in the future.

I am at a loss as to what mugging is actually. The phrase that I got from internet (i.e. studying intensely before exam) doesn't seem wrong, contradictory or illogical - it seems very normal for most people. So clarify please, if I am being mistaken. (In response to both of your posts).

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Originally posted by: Savage
I am sure you know this - MOSTLY everybody is like you. The whole idea of 'study because exam's arriving' is so promoted, like hell yeah. So you see, the system is oblivious to the kind of idea it is imparting and also the machines for people it is manufacturing. They don't care, and neither do most students which is why examination is a very misleading term. I do support revision before exam, but principally to check on what I have learnt all the while. I dun think last minute study ever does good in the long run. And the long run is what our system does not worry about. Hence, we wouldn't remember anything historic or scientific after finishing the exam to debate, would we?

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When I said studying before exams, I didn't necessary mean just studying before the day of the exam. I meant, studying and preparing for the exam with the flow. As exams come nearer, the pace and speed of ones catching up with the curriculum rises. This is even found in the most studious and serious students. Without exams and results there would be no way to determine the student's educational ability.

I agree that the Asian system of education and exams isn't the best. It's based more on assimilating a large stack of information and cramming everything there is to study in your brain, rather than focusing on whether the student actually understands the subject and can apply theories in practical aspects.

Edited by Beyond_the_Veil - 13 years ago

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