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Originally posted by: karandel_2008
Above could again be due to the limitation of mathematics to explain things. For example 2/3 may be sufficient to explain something, but if we start finding the real number 0.66666... then the number of digits become infinite. Moreover something like 0.66666... could just be an illusion and may not exist. Similarly the infinite numbers between 0 and 1 may not exist except in mathematics.
Moreover, here we assume that we know our 0 and 1.
However, the above point does make us think that there could be infinite illusionary possibilities, but all of them may not matter.
Originally posted by: karandel_2008
Apparently, if there is some randomness then time and space are its enemies. For example, given enough space and time it becomes easier to roll a "six" with a dice.
Thats why I think that Earth is tiny as compared to rest of the universe because dice was rolled for a six in that place at a given time.Moreover, memory or retention is another significant enemy of randomness. For example rolling 3 sixes (3x6 = 18) in a row is difficult, but suppose if we store or add the value 6 whenever we get a 6 then soon we will have the number 18 with us.Randomness, some cause, etc may not be there but we know that somethings do not happen everywhere. Moreover, things become easier with more space, time and memory.
Originally posted by: Mister.K.
I disagree. The limitation is not with Math. The limitation comes when we try to apply what Math handed to us. Math gives us as much precision as we want. It is up to us to implement what Math gave us.If for some reason, I want my apple to be divided into exactly three equal parts, with each part weighing the same, down to the picogram or attogram level, Math would do it in a snap. It's up to you to come up with weights and measures to implement what Math asked you to do.Math is a beautiful language which can explain anything including and not limited to extra dimensions. It's up to us to find them.
I was also wondering on the same thing after writing that. Mathematics is a tool and traditionally we don't blame our tools. However, there appears to be certain limits. Either Mathematics is limited by our incapabilities or we are limited by the same of Mathematics. For example do Maths numbers really exist or are just abstraction of reality? If Maths is just an abstraction then this is one inherent limit.In any case, this is what I was afraid of before stepping here. We digress. It's one thing to wade thru a clutter of imprudent posts by some people for whom the concept of relevance is either foreign or doesn't matter. It's another thing to digress even when conversing or debating with compatible people who have the wherewithal to talk about things but lose focus and not see the forest for the trees.I don't know how it happened but somehow we ended up with pi. I have no interest in discussing pi. I can learn all about pi leisurely when I want to. I believe I did that long back, anyway.The whole reason I posted a topic on this forum is because of your dare in my MOTW.
Thanks and in any case, this is an interesting topic.
Will elaborate on the dice and memory part in the next post.
Sarina and the rest of the mods - if decency and decorum are thrown out of the window and courtesy has no place around here, if irrelevant, crass, crap like this is posted on my thread then I will abide by the rules and regulations of YOUR forum and pass up the FIRST opportunity to fix it, to you guys. I *will* most assuredly take the second opportunity.
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Originally posted by: Mister.K.
Sarina and the rest of the mods - if decency and decorum are thrown out of the window and courtesy has no place around here, if irrelevant, crass, crap like this is posted on my thread then I will abide by the rules and regulations of YOUR forum and pass up the FIRST opportunity to fix it, to you guys. I *will* most assuredly take the second opportunity.
got it. thanks.Originally posted by: return_to_hades
Some amount of patience would be greatly appreciated. Currently, I am the only active DT on DM. I cannot babysit a forum 24/7. Besides, sometimes there is a lot more going on her other than "your" thread; I need to address in order.