Who am I? - Page 7

Originally posted by: karandel_2008

There are some points:

Lets say there is something called "that" and we are all part of it. All the universe is part of that.

One problem is that will "that" allow us, as a part of it, to fully understand itself? Moreover, if it is so then it will allow us to go by its rules and it will determine when that happens. Thus going by its rules sound the right path, but knowing those rules itself is the difficult part.

Regarding understanding the universe: apparently things happen according to some laws. There may be randomness, but there is some order as well.

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

Which is why I turned it around and started with me. The "I" in my question "Who am I" was not referring to me, per se.

Regarding randomness and chance, how many chance events did it take to get to today? I will try to come up with a brief list. The initial state of the universe was a singularity by chance. At the beginning, all the forces were unified by chance and all the matter / energy was concentrated by chance. The universe expanded faster than the speed of light in less than a split second by chance. All the subatomic, fundamental particles came out of nothing by chance and combined to produce all known elements by chance. The universe has a uniform structure throughout by chance. The earth is located the right distance from the Sun by chance. The tilt of the earth's axis which gives us the seasons is so tilted by chance. A bunch of really complex chemical reactions led to nucleic acids by chance and life came by chance. Reproduction happened by chance. Homo-sapiens descended on the scene by chance.

I am not convinced that "this" happened by chance. At least as of now.

Originally posted by: karandel_2008

Somehow I dont believe that something can be infinite. Infinite appears to be the limitation or incapability of mathematics as a language to explain something. Or at best infinite is an illusion.

Moreover, according to mathematics, if things are infinite then the median will be infinite or undefined too.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Mister.K, how could I have missed your DM debut? I have been hoping to see you post here for so long. Anyway, it is too late night for me to do justice to this topic. I definitely will have some thoughts to add and some questions to ask when my mind is more alert.

Although, that does bring one thought to mind. Is the mind constant? Why does it make a difference if my mind is tired or alert? Is a thought not just a thought?

I doubt that you are looking for a biological explanation which a physician might give you. Assuming you are not, my answer is that you make a conscious decision to take a break and refocus on what is more important to you. It's not that your mind is tired; it's just that you want to take a break. You already made that choice much before the so-called event (tired mind) took place.

Originally posted by: the_Naked_face

Sir always ignores my question..he ignored my presence in his MOTW and he ignored my question here. Maybe sir doesnt like me much and holds some strong views regarding me?

Xoxo

Originally posted by: Summer3

I guess in knowing the real "I" the false "I" falls off; the real "I" being the universal I that exists in all and the false "I" being the individual ego or our personality. So basically we either exist in the temporal manifested world which is cognized by our senses or in the unmanifested state of consciousness.

Logically to continue in this finite world a bit of ego or the false "I" is needed it seems. But once the univesal "I" is experienced it would be quite a challenge to continue to stay here in the finite world.

Some say that the soul is caught in a dream world and by repeating the Mahavakyas we might we able to wake up from this dream state that we are in.

This very closely matches with what I had in mind a couple of days or weeks ago. However, I mad a conscious decision not to get married to any one single thought or view. I am exploring all options and implore you to do the same.

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

😆 much like you ignored my remark in your MOTW?

Originally posted by: the_Naked_face

Mister K

What is your job?! i mean are you a philosopher? or is that only for the forum?

Xoxo