'Physical Needs' - Can it be justified always? - Page 20

Originally posted by: gumsum

.......So yeah, all such choices should be available to people without any legal restriction.

Originally posted by: gumsum

Thinking more on this, I am even ok with legal ages below that, as long as widows can remarry, married gals are allowed to educate themselves and divorces are more acceptable.

(One point about divorce is at the end)

My view applies to India as well. However with parental consent. Parents will need to play a huge role in this.

Marriage is all about relationship, a very strong bond that it is and even if a child is allowed to marry then the bonding they will develop by growing together will be pure. But these marriages will be arranged marriages based on friendships where the love is allowed to grow in its own time, much better than todays arranged marriages. Also most love marriages where love happens after the age of 16 are not based on love but based on infactuation in which harmones play a big role. The ones where love happens after the age of 21 are mostly marriages where both the partners make a thoughtful decision to fall in love.

With due respect, especially after the care you showed regarding that story related to me, I tend to disagree more with the case of child marriages. I give some comments below:

I am ok with arranged marriages, but am against forced arranged marriages. Whereas here we are talking about something that is not only a forced arranged marriage, but its also a child marriage! Why should parents force their own decisions on children? Moreover, on what criteria one will decide if both the children are a good enough match, from the childhood itself?

Another problem I see is that it might lead to compromise for the girl child. Girl child will be forced to adapt her career goals according to her husband.

Forcing some decisions on others and then looking at stability might be like forcing sharia law (a bit exaggerated😛 but just got this idea) and saying that there is no rape. What we may not realize is that forcing something like sharia on everyone may in fact be similar to raping everyone!

Life is also about freedom (with responsibility of course). This brings us to the next point regarding choices:

So yeah, all such choices should be available to people without any legal restriction.

In the case of child marriages choices are not available to the couples, whose life depend on this choice, at all. They are just available to parents.

For the other cases, all decision/choices may be good, but lets see when it can go wrong: If time is available then the only decision that can go wrong is the one that is taken in hurry. If teens are already mature at some age then I dont see why they will turn immature after 2-3 years of wait.

Originally posted by: cuckoocutter

lol it was back there but to give a recap, it's based on the 5th major 3rd minor 8th variation of the greater fool's theory.😛 😆
ok cool that means work is going on for designing the 9th variation? 😉

srsly, teens can be rash, but at least they run on ideals.

lol and what kind of ideals they be? that allow for rash decisions? lol

when u wait till u're older, u've likely missed the best times u cld have had with ur partner. u're ready to make compromises, bartering ur happiness away fer the best trade u can find.

If that happiness is solely based on just having "best times" then why marry itself? Why not indulge in safe pre-marital sex if sex is the sole objective? and isnt that happening already? At least this will avoid periodical divorces which can have some bad impacts .

Look, no one is "forcing" those "needy people" to wait till 28 because the legal age is around 18 or, in some countries, 16 with parental consent. To wait more than 18 etc is just an advice to people who have other needs as well and for stability.

that might lend stability, but it can leave one unfulfilled. i'd rather have the teens get an opportunity to live life on their terms, than be forced to conform to ideas ppl have, esp ppl who never find fulfilment in the first place. it's like there's many ways to skin a cat, how older ppl see it is not the only way.

With additional reference to your previous posts on getting older : you seem to say that people remain same, they dont learn, even if they grow up and become older. So 1 yr old child is same as 20 yrs old and what changes is just the physical growth and physical needs?

Or if there is a difference then according to you at what age people reach at the peak of their maturity? "One size doesnt fit for all" argument doesn't mean that sometimes 1 yr old should also be allowed to fit in. The point is that we have to fix a minimal limit.

Or is it that you have found a boundless, general, theory at the 8th variation itself?

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

I am sure if you ask the teens - they will laugh in the faces of those who are so hell bent on getting them married at the tender age of 14-15😆

Originally posted by: Crimson_Sky

😉 Infact around the world, specially in Europe and in USA aswell (actually throughout the west) there is a growing concensus is having teen marriages. The teens are sometimes seen to press this issue forward. .

Originally posted by: Crimson_Sky

😉 Infact around the world, specially in Europe and in USA aswell (actually throughout the west) there is a growing concensus is having teen marriages. The teens are sometimes seen to press this issue forward. They dont laugh on face about it. They actually work hard sometimes to ask for teen marriages to be accepted by society. There have been so many incidents already to support this.

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

teen marriages as in 14 years old getting married!!! Which planet did you find THAT UK & USA because that is so not the case on planet earth😆

Originally posted by: Crimson_Sky

I mentioned 15-16 (in one post I mentioned 2 yrs +/-). Its a reality in the west these days. Why do you confine yourself with UK (for Europe) and USA (for Americas).

There are states in USA which accept teen marriages. And there are laws in UK that is more linient now.

In Sweden, teen marriages are getting accepted.

Why is it so funny? 😊 ... ever thought about it from the not-so-traditional perspective? Why confine yourself which whats going on! Whatever going on might not be perfect! There is no sign of perfection here.

Originally posted by: Crimson_Sky

Its good you live in US. But I have lived most of my life in Europe, and I have always been involved in some way or the other with social causes. Specially now I run an NGO which aims to educate atleast 100,000 students in India till their guraduation. I keep myself up-to-date. I said its a growing concern, and its happening around USA, Brazil & Argentina (specially) and other parts of Americas. Europe is taking it alot more seriously.