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Posted: 15 years ago
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Some people on this forum accused and bashed Jai for "copying" Geeta's choreography on Atul and Divyam's first duet of Daur, now I wonder what those ppl have to say abt Dharmesh copying Remo's concept and choreography. While I watched how Ruturaj danced with the shopper bag, I thought that it reminded me of someone's previous performance, and when I looked for Prince and Saajan's video on DID 2, this is what I found. Both Prince and Saajan have done the SAME type of dance, the difference is that they did it with a tissue, instead of a shopper bag. but I guess when DHARMESH "SIR" copies something, it's fine eh

and don't give me an excuse that the shopper bag portion of Ruturaj's performance was a small part of the whole dance. In that case, even the slow motion portion of Atul&Divyam's performance was also a small part!!


the tissue part starts from 2:50




[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFHBgyLWuD0[/YOUTUBE]
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Posted: 15 years ago
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nahiiiiiiiii........the song was entirely different in this case

jai copied the same song apart from the slow motion part..he he

i liked his idea of dancing only on words and his style of copying and presentation.. 😆

and the tissue dance is fully copied by remo... he STOLE those moves from a french dancer, SALAH BENLEMQAWANSSA. the tissue dance is salah's signature dance😆

atleast dharmesh changed it to a polythene bag 😆
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Originally posted by: dramebaaz

nahiiiiiiiii........the song was entirely different in this case

jai copied the same song apart from the slow motion part..he he

i liked his idea of dancing only on words and his style of copying and presentation.. 😆

and the tissue dance is fully copied by remo from denmark got talent 😆




this is still not a good enough justification for me 😕 shopper bag part was the highlight of Ruturaj's performance. Otherwise there was NOTHING extraordinary or worth remembering abt his performance. it was a repeat of steps ruturaj has done before. In Jai's case however, the slow motion part was NOT the highlight of the whole performance, and the dance steps were entirely different and not seen on LM before. there were other very well choreographed sections as well!


I bet if Jai had coppied the shopper bag idea, D fans would've ripped him apart!



Be honest and tell me would u have said the same thing if Jai copied the idea, instead of Dharmesh??
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Originally posted by: dramebaaz

nahiiiiiiiii........the song was entirely different in this case

jai copied the same song apart from the slow motion part..he he

i liked his idea of dancing only on words and his style of copying and presentation.. 😆

and the tissue dance is fully copied by remo... he STOLE those moves from a french dancer, SALAH BENLEMQAWANSSA. the tissue dance is salah's signature dance😆

atleast dharmesh changed it to a polythene bag 😆



this is exactly what I meant by saying that when Dharmesh copies anything it's fine, but when someone else does it, it's not in Jai's case also, some ppl gave an example of how the slow motion part was originally done by an american dance group, but no, D fans didn't take that as a justification!



anyways, I am not here to argue and don't have a lot of time to waste on IF, but I just wanted to point out that those who think only Jai copies and Dharmesh will never do such a thing, well, here's an example. Now justify it as much as u like, I have said what I had to!
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Originally posted by: peace.786




<font color="#0000cc">this is still not a good enough justification for me 😕 shopper bag part was the highlight of Ruturaj's performance. Otherwise there was NOTHING extraordinary or worth remembering abt his performance. it was a repeat of steps ruturaj has done before. In Jai's case however, the slow motion part was NOT the highlight of the whole performance, and the dance steps were entirely different and not seen on LM before. there were other very well choreographed sections as well!

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I bet if Jai had coppied the shopper bag idea, D fans would've ripped him apart!</font>
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<font color="#0000cc">Be honest and tell me would u have said the same thing if Jai copied the idea, instead of Dharmesh??</font>



nooooooooo...ruturaj did some other things with the tissue which prince didnot do 😆 ...
if we start the arguement then papiya's mujra wasnt something new..these common mujra steps are repeated in all dance shows 😊 ..and i agree D copied the bag part but it go well with the role of beggar ruturaj was portraying 😆 ...main kabhi nahi sudhroongi peace 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Peace, that tissue dance was Prince's BEST solo in season 1! People still remember it, it was THAT good! Then in season 2, Remo had Prince and Sajan do each other's stuff in their duet!

The minute I saw Ritruraj do it, I got turned off instantly but obviously nobody would say anything since it's completely fine if D copies..
The bag made Rituraj's performance worth remembering, ltherwise it was an average performance and he'd already done everything in the dance before..and it was THE highlight of the performance...atleast in Jai's copy, it wasn't the highlight of the whole dance...And the bag part was not a small part either....it went on for like a minute atleast..
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUzPMJ-V3bI[/YOUTUBE]
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Posted: 15 years ago
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As far as I know Remo copied the tissue act from somewhere else..Still does not justify Dharmesh's action though..He copied Ruturaj's dance alright....Similarly I like to believe Jai and Geeta ma both copied the slow motion part from Diversity..
@ dramebaaz- honestly you got to be kidding me about Papiya..For rituraj's dance the showstopper was that polythene, otherwise everything else pretty typical lyrical hip-hop which rituraj has already done a number of times..
On the other hand Papiya's whole performance was terrific start to finish..Mujra is a dance style that has some signature steps that have been around till the mughaL era..Having those signature steps in her performance does not add up to copying..Do you know of a dance style called tissue/polethene dance? Only then will your argument that steps were common seem valid IMO..
Please do not drag down other kids' performances to justify your point..And if you are going to do at least have a valid argument..
All said and done though,I loved Rituraj's dance..He did justice to the what he was given..I don't mind the skipper being inspired from other performances and incorporating the idea in their choreography as long as due credit is given..

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Ok, I don't want to comment on anyone's bashing on someone copying or not copying.

But yes, Ruturaj's dance reminded of Prince's tissue paper dance from DID1 which was much more cleaner than Ruturaj's and it wasn't innovative at all as claimed by Farah, which is the main reason why Sandip did not comment anything on that part, bcos he knew it wasn't a novel idea. That also show either Farah is ignorant of DID1 & DID2 performances or is always sweeter with her comments to Dharmesh.

But the part of the choreography that Dharmesh did for Ruturaj where there were no beat and only wordings from the poem, it was good. But the choreography (his teacher's) of Ruturaj from his very 1st audition to some of the words in a song/(was it a ghazal, I forgot) was way better than this.

Also, what is wrong in copying/getting inspired if its done good and entertains the audience?
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As I have pointed out before, when there was a simliar discussion before, in DID the choreographers are expected to come up with 3-4 choreographies per week ....they can not be all totally original from concept to every step. The concepts and props will be repeated, I don't expect that they won't be...What is important for me is to see how the execution was carried out. For me this is the same crieterion for Dharmesh or Jai....😊So I am not going to hold it against either these two or any one else.
Edited by MsUniverse - 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: MsUniverse

As I have pointed out before, when there was a simliar discussion before, in DID the choreographers are expected to come up with 3-4 choreographies per week ....they can not be all totally original from concept to every step. The concepts and props will be repeated, I don't expect that they won't be...What is important for me is to see how the execution was carried out. For me this is the same crieterion for Dharmesh or Jai....😊So I am not going to hold it against either these two or any one else.



u know what MU, I agree with u! I personally wouldn't hold this against Dharmesh or Jai, but I wish D fans would also think abt this before opening topics and bashing Jai for cheating.

It just bothered me that none of the D fans pointed out the striking resemblance between Ruturaj and Prince's performance, they were all so quiet abt it, but when Jai included a little section which was apparently "inspired" from Geeta's choreography, they went all gaga abt how Jai lacks creativity and how he is a cheater and bla bla bla...


I mean if u don't wanna open topics on Dharmesh copying Remo's choreography, then don't open topics on Jai as well, unless u want to admitt that u r biased towards Dharmesh. ppl shouldn't pretend to be unbiased and then go around showing this partiality.
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