Fighting for the Poor the reality - Page 2

Originally posted by: ttt1

Hi :-)

I think being selfish or i would say corrupt in this case ,it's not between rich and poor

It's between weak and the strong ,

being poor could mean weakness to some because anything /any amount gained is huge

For some bring poor Is strength because you have very little to lose

Similiar justification for rich as well.so I think what matters is your choice. Justification will follow So yes it's all how an individual takes it ,and so there are corrupt and genuine people across different strata

It was a thought-provoking episode, I love shows like this, where it prompts one to think instead of providing mindless entertainment.

@pomegranate what you said is the ugly truth. When you don't have money to give food to your child ethics will fly out of the window. That basic human need, food can make you do lot of unethical things.

Originally posted by: yawfeh

who is weak in this kalyug? one who has power , money , contacts fame or one who has courage , truth and strength to fight but no able to fight...

ultimately it comes between the rich and the poor..😊

rich people may be weak but with the help of money they know how to tackle things..

but poor people though they may have strength , courage will power still they are considered weak because their problems never gets solved with these.. and yes , i agree they have nothing to loose but what about their families , their life ? aren't those precious ? so , they have their lives and the lives of their families to lose..

i agree justification will follow😊..so just shared my thoughts..

Originally posted by: ttt1

What I meant is ,its not necessary that most rich are corrupt most l poor are corrupt or all those corrupt the max are rich or poor

, I think it mostly depends on how an individual perceives the situation. Family ,bonding all these factors exssitng across all socio economic class ,it more about the attitude I feel

Like the brave people who fight for the right could be a checknpost constable or could be a ceo ,their method or weapon of fight could be different like you mentioned but the underlying emotion is the same its just courage

Bottom line. It's just as easy to give in to pressure for a a ceo as it's for.a farmer

Actually personally I don't agree with this argument of people blaming the situation for giving in ,because I feel in some form or the other every people across all classes can list having similiar reasons

@gayatri completely agree with you. Manu Sharma case was reopened because of the high profile media coverage it got. Else there was no way for Sabrina Lal to get justice for her sister Jessica.

Originally posted by: docdocgo

You summed up very well shruthi.

It is very normal for the moral compass of even the very learned and idealists to fidget in scenarios like this.

When you know everyone is selfish and a lot of times people you are fighting for are responsible for their scenarios.

You know they can turn their backs on you.

Your family can be in danger from the big political and financial powers while trying to save other families.

Your life,your self respect and reputation that has been built over years can be shattered in seconds .

That is why we see a lot of IAS officers committing suicides and many more resigning.

What happens more commonly in that very few in the society even care about the issues plaguing the society,even fewer even take the steps or careers which would lead them to confront these evils on day to day basis.

We as a society turn blind eye and refuse to accept things upfront.

When IAS officers and others in services like justice,law and medicine are penalised in made up Crimes and undergo media trials, people are ready to point fingers and criticize but nobody would want to be in their position if they know the ground reality of things operate at ground level.

Would you want the title of being an IAS officer if you are framed in the land mafia case and your family is under threat .

It is easier to work hard in jobs where you are sure of being paid a monthly income without risk to your family or life.

But at least as a society. we need to be more aware of how things operate in our country.We worship movie actors and take law for granted.Justice depends on what you can prove.And the rich have their ways of putting money into things in order to prove what they want to prove and stiffle the other side.

Interesting. But there have also been a lot of instances where the misuse of power in these sectors by the ones in charge have led to situations where the society has suffered as a whole or the peaceful/commotion less lives of an average middle class employee with a 'safe' means of income have been disrupted. Various instances where the power play has left many lives in jeopardy in adverse situations and created unwanted disturbances in less adverse situations.

Though I agree that society as a whole also contributes in these discrepancies and disturbances, but sometimes the impact of their doings combined with the the murky misuse of power becomes way too severe.

However, I agree when you say people are way too cautious when it comes to supporting the right thing, but the cautiousness branches out from the fact that the ones in power, actually have the dangerous ability to turn everything to their favour. There's no sense of security that is ensured even if you stand for the rights, be it yours or others. Therefore the life of an average joe fighting for his 'own life' for his own 'selfish reasons' is also left in danger while claiming his own 'right', thanks to the blatant misuse of power.

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Also @ topic, given the current scenario, it's unfair to label these farmers as selfish or wrong or that they showed their backs. It all boils down to their helplessness in this situation. They tried their level best to fight for their rights. They approached various lawyers but failed to get a decently established one to fight for their case. They trusted Swadheenta who is a fresh graduate but she turned absolutely blank. What would they do? Acc to what they see, they have two options , either to be left with nothing or compromise and at least receive some amount as compensation. Winning the case seemed impossible to them. In a dire situation like this, 'Truth, Justice, Rights', everything seems so distant and sound like useless theories. Survival preceedes them all. They have no option but to choose that over their so called rights, going behind which their lives would be put in danger. They would end up fighting for it for their entire lives.

This is fiction, so whatever Swa does would ultimately turn out to be in their favour, but in reality, it's highly unlikely that a fresh out graduate with zero experience and with no proper guidance would win a case like this, so despite the lawyer's noble intentions, they would have been left with absolutely nothing. So what's the best case scenario here.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@gayatri completely agree with you. Manu Sharma case was reopened because of the high profile media coverage it got. Else there was no way for Sabrina Lal to get justice for her sister Jessica.

Same is the case with recent Juvenile Justice Bill. If not for the outrage that came out with the release of the juvenile convict in the case and Nirbhaya's mother's media coverage on justice denied to her daughter that bill was finally passed. Else our MPs were fighting day in day out in the Parliament over petty things.

Look at the condition of Uphaar tragedy where the punishment is minimum and look at the case of Vijay Mallya who has escaped the country with the debt of 9000 crores debt.

So without wealth and power it is tough to get justice. Even truth needs allies in powerful places.

Beautifully written post..u have summed up everything!👏

Agree with what a lot of you'll had to say BUT ... I hope you all realize that in the context of the serial, this was planned by Swadeentha and the villagers. That whole drama between Ahuja and the farmers was recorded by Swa and that's her trump card that she is going to bring out today. I think Swa was the lady in the red saree with the ghoongat. So in the serial itself, the farmers are not going against her but in fact following her plan. 😊