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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: harianjana

Angie and Mishti loved ur vms and poems a lot...

I am missing radev more from last one month but am back to forum and I had felts some happiness by seeeing ur videos whihc had good Radev scenes, that I always would like to see,

Angie I love ur vm- when lovers become strangers to the core, but along wiht that i lvoed Dev's perspective videos too..

but can u do a VM including Dev getting butchered during R.P pooja and explaining some of his thoughts how it would have been using some previous scenes, i always craved to see it in Cb but leave it off, can u do it for me please

Hari, welcome back after a long time. How is your studies going?

Thanks for liking the VMs. I too love Misti's poems as she does a great job showing emotions of Bholu, Chaya and Radhika.

Yes, I do miss seeing Dev and Radhika's characters too. Also some of their episodes are my favorites and I try to use them in my VMs.

Yes, that lovers become strangers VM was a sad one and it showed Dev's emotions. Dev's videos are also becoming my favorite because Avinash does excel in those emotional scenes.

I was really angry with the creatives from the time of that RP puja because that is when they completely destroyed Dev's character. I have used some of the scenes from those episodes because I needed Dev's emotions. I will see if I can use Dev's emotions from RP puja in one of the videos, but I will cut any scenes which has Barkha in it because she was an extremely artificial character. To keep her in the show for a long time, writers destroyed Dev's character and hence I have a great disliking for that character.

I can use Dev's scenes from those episodes in a VM, but I don't think I would be able to justify Dev's character from that episode because that was not Dev for me. If they had kept Dev's character consistent, he would have never picked up Barkha as a fake wife and done that RP puja in that 3-way puja which insulted viewers' intelligence. Also Dev the original character would have never put sindoor on Barkha and also would not have been satisfied with 2 lines of apology after knowing that he gave hell to Radhika that were essentially his mistakes. So there is no justification of actions of Dev during that track. To me I think of Dev as the one who got bogged down with obligations once again after Dada's death and then got over it after he saw Radhika not being treated nicely by his family. Then I think of Dev as that person who stood up for her in that episode in February in front of religious leaders and society. Also he refused to let her give any more tests.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Neerjaa

[They did play with Dev in this track too...Radhika coming in as the false bride and Dev keeping silent was the makers playing with Dev's characterisation...Dev was under obligation but he was also shown to be righteous and being righteous it is not possible for him to keep his mouth shut regarding an unmarried girl coming in as a married one...the other instance was him not doing anything when Radhika went for Sihag Raat in Rohan's room ...if he had the wits to stop the marriage of Rohan and Radhika after they came to know that Rohan was acting then he also has the brains to stop the SR of Rohan and Radhika. ]: Misti ...

who was intersted in execution of Dev,s characterization , he was just caricatured ...His brains or should say presence of mind was working off and on ...Why did he kidnapped her next day why not the same day when she was going as a lamb to be slaughtered , and he was just satisfied when he saw her sleeping in the balcony ...If this night was to use for some other track ,did not materialized , could have gone with logic about this track also ...In fact tracks were changing at the drop of the hat , makers were not sure how they wanted to take the story forward ...Misti sorry could not stop myself writing , i think that time ,it was quite irritating track ..Hats off to Angie for her creations ,how she is trying to catch the moments to go with her lyrics ..


Neerja, that was the time they had decided to bring Barkha in the story and wanted another fake wife story. So that SR scene was done to make people question Radhika's character. But there was no need as Radhika's actions were going to be questioned anyway when she decided to come as Rohan's fake wife. That SR episode turned off viewers a lot because again they made Dev so passive when his character would n't have tolerated Radhika going to Rohan's room. Also they made him dumb where he couldn't figure out that Rohan was blackmailing Radhika by threatening him. They had shown Rohan telling the family that he knew somebody had started the fire in the mandap, then he knew how Rohan was a lowlife and he knew Radhika. So it was easy for him to figure out the truth the same day rather than on the next day.

Neerja, thanks. But the credit also goes to you, Misti, Chalhov, Cristina, Myra and others who have suggested great songs. I would have never been able many scenes if I didn't have those songs.

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Neerja, that was the time they had decided to bring Barkha in the story and wanted another fake wife story. So that SR scene was done to make people question Radhika's character. But there was no need as Radhika's actions were going to be questioned anyway when she decided to come as Rohan's fake wife. That SR episode turned off viewers a lot because again they made Dev so passive when his character would n't have tolerated Radhika going to Rohan's room. Also they made him dumb where he couldn't figure out that Rohan was blackmailing Radhika by threatening him. They had shown Rohan telling the family that he knew somebody had started the fire in the mandap, then he knew how Rohan was a lowlife and he knew Radhika. So it was easy for him to figure out the truth the same day rather than on the next day.

Neerja, thanks. But the credit also goes to you, Misti, Chalhov, Cristina, Myra and others who have suggested great songs. I would have never been able many scenes if I didn't have those songs.

Angie credit for your creations goes to you , its easy to suggest the songs and quite tough to think of the scenes to go with lyrics , when CB 2 had very few of thoes scenes ...CB just reminded me of all old songs which felt goes with the scene but to execute that songs you need scenes ...I think Dev character suits in intense emotionally songs as he is very good with his expressions ...
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Neerjaa

Angie i like the way you use the dialogues in your VM which also adds to essence , infact frankly speaking , i feel CB should have been this way ...Must be quite tough to find the scenes where as in CB 1 , you rarely has to edit the scenes it just is amma Ji as she was over the top with her expressions and actions ...There are so many beautiful songs which goes with Dev Radhika,s character but , there are no scenes ...There are few scenes which i think you have not used When Dev asks Radhika to not to go,she was with him in the room and Rohan has threatened Radhikaand she goes looking at him , pleading mutely , ,just looking at him ...second when Rohan corners Radhika when on run , she looks at him with trapped dear and when rohan shoots Dev and radhika ,s expressions, like a rag doll , rohan dragging her ...I have short memory just thought perhaps have not used


Thanks Neerja. CB1 definitely had more scenes of Dev and Radhika almost until the very end even though they too spoiled Abhay's track and had spoiled the show from that burning of Radhika track onwards. But still there were emotional scenes that made sense even in those episodes.

But I never wrote daily comments in CB1 and also I haven't seen all episodes of CB1 in first four months. So I don't remember episodes the way I do for CB2. I am more attached to CB2 because of my participation in the forum and also because both characters of Dev and Radhika were fascinating as they were more complex than the ones in CB1. Just wish they had paid attention to these characters.

I do remember the scene you mentioned and I would like to use it one of these days.
Edited by why6 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Neerja, thanks. But the credit also goes to you, Misti, Chalhov, Cristina, Myra and others who have suggested great songs. I would have never been able many scenes if I didn't have those songs.


Angie the entire credit and hard work is yours sweet of you to take my name too🤗
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Neerjaa

I have no problem watching episodes where Dev used to act unreasonable in early episodes. But the later episodes just anger me because of the way Dev character was brought down. These days I am forced to watch many later episodes because of VMs but Avinash's expressions are the only saving grace there...Angie
Angie , not offending anyone , do you find Dev in later episodes ? What a irony ,he was deprived of dialogues but makers could not take away his expressions from him...As for side characters in other shows , all have their part in the show ,sometime important to bring twist in the show , but here others charcters wre also turned in to extras ...Just once read in Pragati,s post , she has written , is this my right decision to come again in CB...None was given importance except one two characters ...Yes no doubt Raubina got the opportunity to show her acting skills ...


Well they did injustice to all the characters - Rohan whose role also got finished after the July ME, Virat/Maheswari/Mohini who were reduced to clowns mostly and even Padma who was given a lot of role but was made this one-dimensional character later on. But the most injustice was done to Dev's character who was totally destroyed and then was a minor one for a long time.


I remember reading about Pragati's post and she came back for that Radha/Madhavi track. But she was not utilized as her character of Maheswari was not important for writers.

Rubina's portrayal of Radhika/Kanha did save the show from being closed last year as it brought good ratings. But Radhika's character too in the end first disappeared for six months and then was made so one-dimensional in the last track.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: v3gradev09

This is a grew thread. Love the analysis. :) Thanks for creating this thread. Love the videos !! ;D


Thanks, v3gradev09.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Misti, this VM is for you based on your suggested song "mil gayi do lehren" from the movie "yeh vaada raha". This one is from Radhika's POV .

Misti, this was a very nice choice for the song. I have to say I was skeptical when I first heard it. The initial scene came to me only when I made the VM on Chalhov's song and had downloaded this episode for that purpose. I like the songs from this movie, but was thinking that the other song suited Radhika more. But after listening to it again, I realized that I had scenes for this song and it is a great one from Radhika's perspective.

I have titled it "On the seashore of endless worlds". The title is taken from the first line of another poem by "Rabindranath Tagore." This is a beautiful poem that talks about children's innocence where they are playing on the seashore building sandcastles. They are oblivious to the world or danger around them and are just enjoying themselves. Misti, I think you can interpret this poem better than I can. So would love to read your analysis on the poem.

I used this poem for two reasons. First of all, Radhika had this childlike innocence and faith where she could ignore the noise of rest of the world who stood in her way in having a relationship with Dev. So she believed with all her heart that she and Dev would finally be able to have a relationship in the end. She also had this capacity to live in a moment just as children do. So she could ignore worries about the future and just enjoy the present. So the song talked about this in the first part where she is just happy to be near him even if they were not able to reach the destination - the seashore (sahil is used in the song). So she is comparing herself and Dev to two waves who are destined to meet even if the seashore is not near. So in the first part of VM, she is content to just have him in her life even if he is apart from her. She is talking about a moment of love that is very precious even if it is short. Radhika's original character was shown that way where she also taught Dev to enjoy the present and leave the worries for the later time. So she was like a child who would feel down but would bounce back next minute.

Secondly, the song talks about two waves meeting. If two waves meet properly where the peak of one collides with the peak of other or trough of one meets with trough of other, a brighter and bigger wave is built that is able to reach the seashore. So from Radhika's POV, if she and Dev were together in both good and bad times, they could overcome any difficulties and reach the destination. They did that when Dev realized this and Radhika's strong faith helped them. Now if a peak of a wave meets with the trough of a wave, then the wave cancels out. In Radhika's case, Radhika's optimism countered Dev's pessimism and so even there the waves analogy works.

Also the poem talks about infinity in two places - endless worlds and infinite sky. In context of Dev and Radhika, Radhika's unconditional love for Dev represents that infinity. Also this playing of children to me represents Dev and Radhika of kidnapping track where they were in their own world. They were oblivious of dangers surrounding them and were just happy even with limited resources. Again this is my interpretation of the poem in terms of this VM, but is not an actual interpretation of the poem.

Following is the poem by Rabindranath Tagore:

On the seashore of endless worlds children meet.
The infinite sky is motionless overhead
and the restless water is boisterous.
On the seashore of endless worlds the children meet with shouts and dances.

They build their houses with sand and they play with empty shells.
With withered leaves they weave their boats
and smilingly float them on the vast deep.
Children have their play on the seashore of worlds.

They know not how to swim, they know not how to cast nets.
Pearl fishers dive for pearls, merchants sail in their ships,
while children gather pebbles and scatter them again.
They seek not for hidden treasures, they know not how to cast nets.

The sea surges up with laughter, and pale gleams the smile of the sea-beach.
Death-dealing waves sing meaningless ballads to the children,
even like a mother while rocking her baby's cradle.
The sea play with children, and pale gleams the smile of the sea-beach.

On the seashore of endless worlds children meet.
Tempest roams in the pathless sky, ships get wrecked in the trackless water,
death is abroad and children play.
On the seashore of endless worlds is the great meeting of children.


Here is the VM "On the Seashore of Endless World". This is a song from 1970s movie and those movies used to have these parties in big houses. There would be song and dance with camera going to faces of every character. The heroine or hero or both would be singing a song that would convey their message to relevant characters who would either be frowning with disapproval or beaming with approval.

So I have tried to make the VM in the same style. Now Rakhi who in the movie was the mother of the hero who conspired to keep the female lead apart from the male lead. In this song, the female lead is giving the defiant message to the mother of the male lead that she can't keep them apart. Here Padma is Rakhi who is not happy with Radhika. The editing in the last part is choppy because I tried to use episodes during Barkha track where it was hard to get clean scenes of Dev and Radhika.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=II2WCgwjyWY[/YOUTUBE]

Edited by why6 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Beautiful work Angie! The first song is so melodious and your lines about the messages of these are close to our history. Radhika character throughout the movie was strong, she was ugly, distant, unloved, unwelcome by Dev's few members family, but with understanding, tolerance, will and an immeasurable loved, she managed to bring Dev not only to love, but to accept, understand their relationship sacred, unbreakable, and to managed the whole family to respect and to cherish her true value.
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Posted: 13 years ago
But I never wrote daily comments in CB1 and also I haven't seen all episodes of CB1 in first four months. So I don't remember episodes the way I do for CB2..Angie Angie , so i have to pursuade to watch the start episode of CB 1 , i was also not in this forum and joined in sep/nov 10...but i remember mailing my views to DJ,s and zee response ...Like you i also saw midway but was curious to know about the story which sent me in olden days when innocence and unconditional love was there , but is lost in todays materialistic world where values has also changed ...I did not have any problem if the show went Vivah way , showed Dev,s unconditional love and determination ...they had beautiful scenes after that ...It was shantnu whose character was ruined along with the other guy Abhinav Shukla , who also lost in the way ...I liked Abhay , he was with attitude but became parrot later on ...really sad again good story did not get justice ..

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