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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: misti73


Thanks Angie for making another version of the song. Thanks also for understanding what I was trying to say and not taking it in any other way. Coming to this version of the song...it is much better than your first try. I found it t be more precise and to the point and the right emotions were also there. Your earlier version was kind of confusing for me because there was too much information in a 5-6 mintues song...

Thanks Misti. I never mind your feedback because it is very objective. Even during the worst tracks of CB2, your analysis used to be very objective. You still could appreciate good parts as rare as they were whereas I used to be much more harsh if I couldn't stand the episode. In this case, I agree with your feedback anyway. Also I never take constructive criticism negatively because it only improves one's work. Doing otherwise makes one work in a bubble world.

I came across this 2 mins song ...and it was so similar to Dev's situation ...I have added the link to the song.

Yes, this is a very appropriate song and fits Dev completely. I may use it one of these days.

Coming to Bholu I know that you didn't like him during this phase and your sympathies were with Radhika. I have been angry at Bholu quite a few times for his actions but almost immediately my anger would change to wanting to hug him and to sit down with him and having a chat. I have always seen him as a lost soul...one whose heart was in the right place and who knew deep down what is right and what is wrong but due to the way he was brought up and due to his experiences in his own life he used to make wrong decisions thinking that they were the right ones. Since he was emotionally abused since childhood he had this happy picture of a perfect family and he used to cling to it because if that picture disappeared then what will he live with? He also had the image of a girl who will be his saviour.The only person from who he expected things was from Radhika because she was his perfect saviour ...but that used to happen when he was with this family. When he used to go away from this families influence, then he used to think much more clearly and treated Radhika not as his saviour who was perfect but as a human being who had her own needs and compulsions. His ability to think in the presence of the family came when Radhika/kanha appeared on the scene because she laid down ground rules for him which Radhika never did. As you have said Dev was a very complex person and if the makers had given respect to his characterisation this show would have turned out to be something different..That is why I was very disheartened when they did not show the remorse track regarding how he behaved with Radhika during the Barkha phase. He has been projected as a very righteous person and being righteous this would have made him very guilty and it will be something that would have eaten him up from inside. So even if he did not want to face the truth his inner self would have forced him to face the truth of his actions. Anyway despite whatever has happened with this show, I will always remember CB2 as the show that gave me Bholu...he was the character for whom I watched the show right till the end.

I had mixed feelings about Bholu. I could understand his behavior in context of his character in that first half of CB2. In the second half (during Barkha track), his behavior was not consistent with his character at all especially in those episodes where he believed Barkha over Radhika. Then where he became inhuman or dumb.

But coming to that first half, I did not like his actions because to me needless sacrifices and sacrificing one's loved one is a waste of life. So my sympathy in those case is always with the one who is taken for granted. I used to feel that way about Dev of CB1 too who was used by Radhika of CB1. But again I understood both characters - Radhika of CB1 and Dev of CB2 on where they were coming from.

However, there was a difference in that first half. I also found his actions both understandable. Also he was quite amusing too in that fake wife track. Even though Radhika did allow him to take advantage of her love, she was very human in that first half. So she was getting hurt at his behavior and also demonstrating her own way of dealing with it. So she did stop running after him which didn't suit him too. So he used to seek her out to show her that he "hated" her. Remember you used to call him Bumbum during those episodes.

Also the original writers did show Bholu and Radhika as very human characters. Once Bholu finally acknowledged to himself that he had behaved very badly with Radhika, he did stop her and asked for apology. It was only few lines but that was enough for Bholu's character in that context. Radhika too was shown human who wanted that apology. So she too accepted it without telling Dev that there was no need for it. She just felt overwhelmed with happiness that he had acknowledged his mistake. Then when he realized that Rohan was a bad person, he again apologized to Radhika for putting her in the situation where she was suffering and had to be on the run with him.

Of course, the full realization was not shown at the time where Dev was shown to feel that he was wrong regardless of whether Rohan was bad or good. But I didn't expect the full realization at the time. I was waiting it for the time when Dev would be forced by his family to give up Radhika. Of course he rebelled against the family, but it was hard for him to convince Radhika. So here Radhika was doing something for his own good. But I had always thought that they would show that he realized how wrong he was when he imposed his decisions and sacrifices on Radhika. But by that time, Dev was such a side character that his characterization was given no importance. He was given a line to state that Radhika should not make the same mistake he did and that was that. He was made passive, his scenes were not given importance and his few lines were talking about Radhika's greatness. That did not make sense because Radhika was not great, but did whatever she did for him. Finally, his character was destroyed to keep their artificial character in place.

But still I feel more connected to CB2 than CB1 even though my liking of characters of Dev and Radhika started from CB1. I found Dev and Radhika's story in CB2 to be more poignant and there were complexities in characters of both even though Dev was much more complex. So despite how they destroyed the show in the end, I do have good memories of the show and I feel attached to characters of Dev and Radhika.. My only problem is that both CB1 and CB2 remain incomplete for me because they did not do justice to these great characters. But still I appreciate the original writing team that conceptualized these unique characters.

Also I am feeling much more empathy for Dev while I am making VMs because I can take out the garbage and only his emotions are present. So all this conflict that sometimes did not come through in daily episodes is much more visible in condensed versions.


As for your colour combination...I liked it. You are right that Radhika because of her strong faith and her self confidence knew to live even in the face of troubles, while Dev used to have a much more bleak and melancholic outlook...and Radhika was the colour that was needed in his life. I agree completely.

Edited by why6 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Friends, here is my next VM. I found this song on youtube and it fits Dev and Radhika's feelings during the kidnapping track. I have used the song "Akele hain to kya gam hai" from the movie "Qayamat se qayamat tak". In the movie, characters played by Aamir Khan and Juhi Chawla are on run because their families don't approve of their relationship. There too they are being hunted down by their egoistic families. But they are oblivious to all that and are happy in their own world.

I have titled this VM as "Utopia". Utopia by definition implies ideal place and life. Dev and Radhika consider their state during this track as being ideal because they are with each other. So even though they have nothing materially and being hunted down, they are happy and content in their world. Utopia is also a dreamworld and a wonderland where state of that life is temporary and is also illusionary. So here Dev and Radhika to extent are oblivious of outside world where danger still awaits. As Eden or paradise is also called Utopia, there is a snake at the periphery of this dreamworld of Dev and Radhika's. Myra would know whom I am talking about. So there is a hint of that in this song.

Here I am quoting few lines from the poem "Utopia" by Wislawa Szymborska - a Polish poet who won nobel prize for literature in 1996. The first few lines apply to Dev and Radhika in my interpretation of the poem in the context of this VM. It is not that Dev and Radhika are totally unaware of the outside world, but they are ignoring it for the time being in the happiness of being finally together. So there is some obliviousness on their part. But this is the only time when Dev was totally free of his obligations and had broken all his shackles completely. So even though it is from Dev and Radhika's perspective, I see this VM more from the point of view of Dev as it shows his happiness at getting his dream.

Hope you like my interpretation.

Utopia (Wislawa Szymborska)

Island where all becomes clear.

Solid ground beneath your feet.

The only roads are those that offer access.

Bushes bend beneath the weight of proofs.

The Tree of Valid Supposition grows here
with branches disentangled since time immemorial.

The Tree of Understanding, dazzlingly straight and simple,
sprouts by the spring called Now I Get It.

The thicker the woods, the vaster the vista:
the Valley of Obviously.

If any doubts arise, the wind dispels them instantly.


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTDrZvZ9Y6I&feature=player_detailpage[/YOUTUBE]

Edited by why6 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Angie, i am enjoying this new poetic theme to ur vms...really clever choices...
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Posted: 13 years ago
Oh, Utopia now...thats lovely...so u named him snake now, the one waiting around the corner to ruin the dreamland, yup it suits rohan :)) like the vm alot
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Myra.nelly

Angie, i am enjoying this new poetic theme to ur vms...really clever choices...


Thanks, Myra. It started when I started putting titles. Now I am also re-discovering the world of poetry. I haven't read poems ever since I left school and started working. Now this has taken me back to my old days when I loved reading poems.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Myra.nelly

Oh, Utopia now...thats lovely...so u named him snake now, the one waiting around the corner to ruin the dreamland, yup it suits rohan :)) like the vm alot


Myra, thanks. See even if there is a hint of Rohan, you are there instantly. Yup, he is the snake in this Garden of Eden waiting to strike at Dev and Radhika. I always enjoy having Rohan as a part of story of Dev and Radhika because it makes it more interesting.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: why6

Friends, here is my next VM. I found this song on youtube and it fits Dev and Radhika's feelings during the kidnapping track. I have used the song "Akele hain to kya gam hai" from the movie "Qayamat se qayamat tak". In the movie, characters played by Aamir Khan and Juhi Chawla are on run because their families don't approve of their relationship. There too they are being hunted down by their egoistic families. But they are oblivious to all that and are happy in their own world.


I have titled this VM as "Utopia". Utopia by definition implies ideal place and life. Dev and Radhika consider their state during this track as being ideal because they are with each other. So even though they have nothing materially and being hunted down, they are happy and content in their world. Utopia is also a dreamworld and a wonderland where state of that life is temporary and is also illusionary. So here Dev and Radhika to extent are oblivious of outside world where danger still awaits. As Eden or paradise is also called Utopia, there is a snake at the periphery of this dreamworld of Dev and Radhika's. Myra would know whom I am talking about. So there is a hint of that in this song.

Here I am quoting few lines from the poem "Utopia" by Wislawa Szymborska - a Polish poet who won nobel prize for literature in 1996. The first few lines apply to Dev and Radhika in my interpretation of the poem in the context of this VM. It is not that Dev and Radhika are totally unaware of the outside world, but they are ignoring it for the time being in the happiness of being finally together. So there is some obliviousness on their part. But this is the only time when Dev was totally free of his obligations and had broken all his shackles completely. So even though it is from Dev and Radhika's perspective, I see this VM more from the point of view of Dev as it shows his happiness at getting his dream.

Hope you like my interpretation.

Utopia (Wislawa Szymborska)

Island where all becomes clear.

Solid ground beneath your feet.

The only roads are those that offer access.

Bushes bend beneath the weight of proofs.

The Tree of Valid Supposition grows here
with branches disentangled since time immemorial.

The Tree of Understanding, dazzlingly straight and simple,
sprouts by the spring called Now I Get It.

The thicker the woods, the vaster the vista:
the Valley of Obviously.

If any doubts arise, the wind dispels them instantly.


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTDrZvZ9Y6I&feature=player_detailpage[/YOUTUBE]


Angie you have found the perfect song...I was smiling throughout the song...it was a combination of seeing these two on the screen and my memories of my teenage years regarding QSQT. I was in school when it released and I remember bunking tuitions to watch this movie...actually I don't know how many times I saw this movie that time. There was a complete madness regarding QSQT, Amir and Juhi when this movie came out. I even bought cassettes of this movie which had songs and dialogues and used to drive my parents bonkers listening to the same thing again and again. Anyway I will write abut your interepretation later...it is sunday and now I have to go to work.😡
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: misti73


Angie you have found the perfect song...I was smiling throughout the song...it was a combination of seeing these two on the screen and my memories of my teenage years regarding QSQT. I was in school when it released and I remember bunking tuitions to watch this movie...actually I don't know how many times I saw this movie that time. There was a complete madness regarding QSQT, Amir and Juhi when this movie came out. I even bought cassettes of this movie which had songs and dialogues and used to drive my parents bonkers listening to the same thing again and again. Anyway I will write abut your interepretation later...it is sunday and now I have to go to work.😡


Misti, so bad about your work and that too on a day before the important day. My sympathies to you. There is nothing I hate more than working on office work on Sundays.

I too was a teenager when this movie was released. It released few days before my birthday. So my friends who were crazy about this new "cute boy" persuaded me to show them the movie as the birthday treat. Finally, I was able to persuade my mother to let us all go to watch this movie on our own.

What a craze there was about Aamir Khan that time. I also used to listen to the songs over and over again. I didn't have a crush on him, but almost all of my friends did. But I liked this movie a lot and I have really good memories associated with it.

Yesterday, I had decided that I would make my next VM on kidnapping track and I went to youtube to download one of your songs. But in the suggestions came this movie "Qayamat" that starred somebody else. Suddenly, my memory got triggered of this movie and the song and the situation/song fit Dev and Radhika so much. So I downloaded it and ended up making this in an extremely short time because I kept it simple. All the episodes were already downloaded for other VMs. So didn't have to spend any time downloading or converting them for my software. I only had to download two parts where Rohan/Virat were searching for them. Didn't add any special effects or dialogues. Just pasted few episodes and edited them. I even used the theme of the original song as my inspiration where they are happy in their world and goons are searching for them. So this was one of the easiest VM I made.
Edited by why6 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Thank you Angie for creating these two beautiful videos with songs that intreprets their expressions ...And then the poems ,both are equally good ...I think only CB is the only one as not have seen anyother page , where pieces from literature is used ...And this all take me in back-lane ...When i look at your videos just think , why did the makers lost their way somewhere going along the way ...you have given apt title , Utopia, where they both are in their own worlds even kmowing snake is following them to their paradise , stealing small moments of happiness ...This Akele Hai song goes very well with both of them and agree with you Dev is now free of his shackles of duty and obligations ...Thanks Angie again , just waiting for your next one .
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: why6


Misti, so bad about your work and that too on a day before the important day. My sympathies to you. There is nothing I hate more than working on office work on Sundays.

Yeh I too don't like working during weekends but I had no choice in this matter.

I too was a teenager when this movie was released. It released few days before my birthday. So my friends who were crazy about this new "cute boy" persuaded me to show them the movie as the birthday treat. Finally, I was able to persuade my mother to let us all go to watch this movie on our own.
What a craze there was about Aamir Khan that time. I also used to listen to the songs over and over again. I didn't have a crush on him, but almost all of my friends did. But I liked this movie a lot and I have really good memories associated with it.

Yes I remember that the movie was released during summer...because it was around the time the my summer vacation started. There are two actors with whom I have very fond memories of my teenage years...one is Amir due to QSQT and the other is SRK for the teleserial Fauji.

Yesterday, I had decided that I would make my next VM on kidnapping track and I went to youtube to download one of your songs. But in the suggestions came this movie "Qayamat" that starred somebody else. I liked this song more and it was perfect for their Utopia... Suddenly, my memory got triggered of this movie and the song and the situation/song fit Dev and Radhika so much. So I downloaded it and ended up making this in an extremely short time because I kept it simple. All the episodes were already downloaded for other VMs. So didn't have to spend any time downloading or converting them for my software. I only had to download two parts where Rohan/Virat were searching for them. Didn't add any special effects or dialogues. Just pasted few episodes and edited them. I even used the theme of the original song as my inspiration where they are happy in their world and goons are searching for them. So this was one of the easiest VM I made.During this track it always used to worry me that they are on the run and Rohan is looking for them...but they are sleeping with doors and windows left wide open and that too Radhika sleeping next to the door.They were in their Utopia and were content just having each other.

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