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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: neerjashingla

Misti liked your comments about the whole situation...Yesterday liked Radhika,s expressions when she was doing aarti or helping Dev to wash his hands , there was anger , hurt...She is brilliant with her expressions when she has to show her inner turmoil specially in serious scenes.. Why there are articles about coming tracks and that also not sure about and can be changed ....Why they are not sure about their story-line ..something is amiss in the whole set-up....Once i asked you Misti is it going to be error of mistaken identities way....One more thing Krishna should not be at their back and call should be elusive,..Like Chhenu he is fun to watch



Thanks Neerja.

Rubina is very good in emotional scenes, specially when she has to project inner turmoil...cold anger. As for the articles I am getting a very uneasy feeling...........yesterdays Rubinas segment came out in IF.......now this article also on IF.......both are hinting at not good stuff going on behind the scene in CB2....or they are just creating a scene to get the audience buzzing.....
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: neerjashingla

.One more thing Krishna should not be at their back and call should be elusive,..Like Chhenu he is fun to watch ...just felt that song was enforced in todays episode to make the viewers happy.....No progression in the story-line....I am no expert about soaps but i think there should be smooth ride from the starting if you are well prepared, why hiccups after leap.....Maheshwari ,s past and present does not match either erase past , or show some logic, same goes with Padma, why does not she say some thing in monologue , at least viewers know about her thoughts....Reading Angie,s comments about not to loose the interest,same i feel...First time in my life i liked a soap CB1 so much that used to see the repeat, never happened before...Everybody used to laugh at me about my fondness to CB, but does not feel the same now about CB2.....wants to give time to CB 2 , lets see how long it holds your interest.....Only on the popularity of the leads, or the gimmicks can not pull the soap through.....Wish Creatives, channel should seriously handle CB2 and not disappoint their viewers...Sorry Misti for writing so much nonsense...



If it is spiritual then Krishan should be ellusive..atleast thats what I know of spritualism........and Radhika and Dev have to be active........ Chenu and Dev were good.....Chenu can be an important player for Dev and Radhika........I hope they use him later on.....Chenu can have it both ways/.....he can earn money by blackmailing people and letting them believe that he is helping them but behind the scenes he can be shown supporting Dev and Radhika. As for the song...it was inserted today just to fill up the episode........Radhikas loud make up is more intune with her singing at the ghat with the sitar makeup........her makeup during holi was a bit lighter .....so this song was shot before..infact there were some promos and media sections with this song.

Why are you saying that you are talking nonsense........most of us accept that just the leads and gimmicks cannot sustain the show for long........for that screenplay and story are needed.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: misti73

Misti Good one once again and three names for Champarani😲😉 Today reading update made me think abt the possibities from here which again left my head in dizzy state..and yes sowwy for giving you headaches in your yest MI post so wont list the combinations here gain though now i have some two more scenarios rolling in my head with current developments and that article

So what do we have today'🤔..ahh Bumbum is now playing teacher teacher'🤔'.and he is conducting an ishtory lesson'🤔..so Bumbum explaining the ishtory of the Purohit Pagalkhana because the sane Nirupa Roy family cannot understand what is happening ..well can't blame them even most of us cannot understand the intricacies of the Purohit pagalkhana'😆😆'..so he tells them the family tree'Ouch..and Champakali who is dieing to wear the red night gown and singing "kate nahi kati yeh din yeh raat"'.smiles' and says "and you'Ouch'..who are you"'OuchBumbum say you are the servant''😃'see it will be good for your mental peace'😃'.lo Bumbum says that he is like the Puohits son'😳'.Bumbum why don't you listen to Misti '😳''.abh bhugtoh'''and then Bumbum asks Nirupa Roy so what about your family? and he gets told the Nirupa Roy family tree'.Bumbum looks at chenu and says yep I have met sadhuji'Ouch..and wriggles his eyebrow.'😛'.at chenu Ouch'..who manages to divert the attention to our Phuljhari who is debating the inns and outs of universe'''but I must say she is looking very pretty''😃'well Phuljhari still thinks that the guy is for her sis Miss. Polka dots'''..hmmm''.how about changing the name from Champakali to Miss.Polka dots?...🤔.......then why is she feeling bad'🤔''Phuljhari is in deep philosophical thought when Chandalika comes and tells her to make tea'.which Phuljhari in her Shankuntala pose has forgotten to do'Ouch..but when Phuljhar is brings the tea then Miss. Polka dots whisks away the tray 'OuchOuch''ahh she is itching for the red nightgown'Ouch'.wonder if some sale is going on'🤔''I mean buy one get one free'😆'.ohh she has to use it for Chirkut too'OuchOuch'..and then some man comes and asks for some clothes from Nirupa Roy who is very eager to leave ''''..what is going on here'''the bridegrooms side has come to meet girls family and the girls father is leaving the guest alone and going somewhere else''Wacko🤪'''ahh chunnu munnu goo goo eyes time between Bumbum and Phuljhari'.I mean Bumbum making goo goo eyes'😳and talking of which Bumbum starts right on queue and asks her whether she will have tea '🤔'.Bumbum how about introducing yourself to her'😡..and Phuljhari with the headmistress looks says no I am not playing this game'Ouch'..but Bumbum tell s her that all the time you are telling me shoo shoo but our fate is showing thenga at you and keeps on bringing us together..something must be there'.then he dreams about Phuljhari'😉'''..nooooooooooooooooooo''ShockedShockedShocked'''.Bumbum don't' smile OuchOuchOuch''..aiyoooo Miss. Polka dots is roaming around in her dreams containing red night gown'OuchOuch''.Anyway so Bumbum is dreaming about ruins'😛...white dupata'😛..phuljhari and him playing hide and seek'😛.but no pappi''😳''.but loads of jhappis''😳😳'and the dream ends''😭'..and I knew it''OuchOuch.Miss Polka Dots is standing in front of Bumbum smiling and dreaming about red night gown and Bumbum is smiling and dreaming about white lehenga choli'😳😳''.Bumbum kar deeya na kabara'Ouch'Oh yes we have Phuljari taking her best friend and saying that I am confused'🤔'..don't worry phuljhari you are not the only one'😉majority of the audience are also confused'.atleast I am thinking whether chunnu munnu will ever be able to stop these kiddish games which they are saying are tracks''🤔😳'.anyway Phuljhari continues..that she is married but she feels attraction for this guy and now she thinks that since this guy is meant for Miss.Polka dots so that is kanhas message to her'''.

They are deliberately making someone vanish from the situation of high importance pertaining to the person or pop up anyone anywhr whn that person is least wanted(Chnada rani door raho dev sey)...Agree the way Cvs planning to move ahead is with all these confusions btn radev but whole situations created for all the confusions look forced or aritificial..said it many times but somehow everything looks crystal clear but at the same time hazy...i am not able to decide if i am confused or just clueless for the direction we heading right now....So now stage is set for Devs heart brake, Rohan falling for Rads, Chnada already behind Dev, Rads denial...the only silver lining i can see is if they show some logical interaction between Rads and Dev......They need to clear certain points like- Rads knwoing abt proposal truth, dev coming out clear but i doubt any of it would be shown and before wedblink we wlud be in Mathura for rest of the story to progress..

But must say if they had these kind of beuatiful performances daily for abt 15 mins they need to think much for numbers😉
Oh and at Purohit asylum Padma is showing her jewels to kabutarni because she wants to give them to the CB'🤔..BUT kabutarnis says they are unlucky don't give them'Ouch''does kabutarni want all the jewels for herself'🤔.by the way Padma worries''. Chandalika starst giggling'Ouch'.hoopiing Ouch'..skipping and jumping Ouchthat Miss. Polka Dots likes Bumbum'..by her reaction it seems that she likes him 🤪and then tells dotty to take the sweets to Bumbum so that Bumbum will also like her'🤪. then Bumbum talks to himself that he must tell daima that he likes the second daughter which Dotty hears'😳'..more dreams to her'boo bhoo''😆' anyway Bumbum wants to give the shagun ke kangan to dotty and Chandalika says wrong person it's the other girl and then the penny drops for Bumbum'OuchOuch''oh yes Nirupa Roy pouts and goes to Chandalika and says "you are being very naughty'🥱🥱🥱''..you are not being truthfull and Chanadalika says later for all those things'🥱🥱''

PF- sealed my thoughts here..no way i can think abt the walking Zombies..One thing in the article was interesting/positive- Rohan's Mom aware of property that means padam is soem chhuppi Rustam but the it can be some editing mistake in the article n actually it was meant for BB

Mansaram will not reveal anything Tommorrow for sure and Rads will not know abt herself and Dev..but dev wud beCry From here how it will move as per article is to be seen..i hope pray they do something unextected and surprise us with twist not listed/predicted here but something different...
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Ok ''..chunnu munnu'''.Dev knows that Radhika thinks that the rishta is for Chanda and he also knows that people in that family have mistaken him for Rohan so shouldn't he clear it to Radhika that he is not the bridegroom but someone else''.I mean if he wants to impress a girl shouldn't he clear any misunderstandings that might have risen'''''.now u might say that he expects the family members to tell her'''..but a guy who is completely smitten and wants this girl to like him is not thinking about all this stuff?''

this is logical step but CMs wont follow such steps or suggestions..Dev will know the truth but not Radhika..so again trying to keep the confusion alive..

Next Radhikas questions to kanha and that she thinks that the guy has come for Chanda and since she is feeling something for Dev'''.then its Kanhas way of telling her that she is wrong''''..it would have been acceptable but this artificial scenary is making it ridiculous 'Radhikas feelings are justified but the situation that gave rise to it today is making it unreal to me..till now just because you wanted to artificially build up the badi bahu as the main negative character in the show'you have dumbed down each and every character in the PB'''and now you have started your work on Mansarams family too'''..even Today Padma did not realize that the badi bau was insulting her when she could easily pick up on badi bahus intentions.

Chalo somthing in that direction is shown...but concluding that stuff is another attempt to shove ff Dev..why for once she is not listening to him..Now i wonder if those two Red/pink shrit episodes in college ever happened or not...she need to clarify certain tthings with Dev if she thinks the guy is for Chanda...
Liked the song......but can you please stop putting the garish pink eyeshadow on Rubina.....Yes those heavy pink eye makeup was


Misti i m tempted to list few of more scenaros but my head is sppining badly so leaving out the possibilities here...let them surprise us..TC n GN
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: misti73



Thanks Neerja.

Rubina is very good in emotional scenes, specially when she has to project inner turmoil...cold anger. As for the articles I am getting a very uneasy feeling...........yesterdays Rubinas segment came out in IF.......now this article also on IF.......both are hinting at not good stuff going on behind the scene in CB2....or they are just creating a scene to get the audience buzzing.....

Misti, I got a bad feeling too from watching Rubina's section. They made it look as if she is pulling tantrums on small things and then "April Fool" joke was also not clear. Also in one of the interview late last week, Rubina was joking about julaha family running with jewels as Dev won't like Chanda. In today's episode, he thinks Chanda is a good person and would be perfect for Rohan. So did they change the story again? If the intent was to keep Dev confused about Radhika's identity as CB, why did they show that precap today.
I think they are changing the story almost every day. Now this article about Dev dropping the idea of stopping Radhika and Rohan's wedding because he overhears something. If the article is true, then he should be stopping the wedding rather than letting it go forward because then he would not be a hero in anybody's eyes.
To me they are going towards the CB1 story where Radhika would be kept in dark for a long time about the groom's identity just as Dev was confused. All their initial articles about making it a different show with different storyline are out of window.
They are now showing previous shoots (of promos etc.) as dream sequences. It feels as if somebody is really trying to sabotage the show. If it is DJs, why start the show in the first place. They are keeping the story of their other show consistent despite very low ratings. Why bring in creative heads/directors that destroyed the previous CB1?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: why3

Misti, my head is aching from reading the updates and stuff. Wonder what happens when I see the episode. Chunnu munnu continues from second year of CB1 where they think that audience will tolerate all the garbage and dumbing down of characters as long as they show Dev and Radhika in a dream song. Nothing is making sense. So Radhika still doesn't know that Dev is not the groom and this rishta is for her and not chanda. For that they dumbed down Dev and made Mansaram suddenly so weak and deceitful when it doesn't suit their characters.

Mansaram may not be able to handle Kabutarni but he knows about Radhika and yet continues to show weakness in front of his wife for no reason.
This can be a good story if told linearly where Dev clarifies the confusion about him not being the groom but a servant of the family. Radhika would be shattered to know that there is a rishta for her and her parents lied to her about it. Then show confusion, hurt and whatever and let her choose her path. Same with Dev. but why show straight lines when they can have triangles and rectangles. So Chanda is now full-fledged Kanika and soon Rohan would be Vishaka. Shanti and Kabutarni would be Katyani and Amma alternatively or a combination. Mansaram is already Shastriji. Dev and Radhika have been started to dumb down already and the process would continue.
My patience is now being exhausted and not sure how long I can force myself to watch the episodes and not just read the updates. In the last month of Abhay's track, I skipped a lot of shows and was just reading updates. I am now getting the same feeling. Also, my desire for writing analysis is also going away. At least show some story.
How long would the fondness of audience for CB1 and characters of Dev and Radhika sustain CB2?

Angie agree with all of your statements the last one is a big question mark in front of creatives....story does have some potential if only they dont change it frquently, develpe loose ends, do not dumb down charcaters, go logically rather than investing energies creating all the situations leading tocconfusuon and more illogicality.. but for now i can see some traingles, rectangles or n side of quadrilateral😕
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Loved your commentary misti. Chandaniya should wear the red nightie for Rohan. That would be more fun. Dev saw enough red clad women already.😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ekta_bajaj

right misti,they are making other pb members dumbed down
and yes dev should tell rads also.
why cv are confusing us.in the name of trp,they are losing audience,can't understand that.


I know that TRPs are important but they will come if there is story and if there is screenplay.........also if the tracks explores the emotional interaction between characters......everything is there in front of them...they have already shown how Shanti is emotionally using Radhika and her husband........they can even show more by showing Radhika breaking down.....then her father feeling guilty and breaking down......Radhikas awe at her mothers action which she is taking as love is already been shown and it was portrayed very well by Rubina..........her confusion was also well portrayed....so they have the ingredients in front of them.......in Mansarams family they have the actors to portray them........they have the well rounded characters too...so why go for shortcuts.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: chipak

Misti i m tempted to list few of more scenaros but my head is sppining badly so leaving out the possibilities here...let them surprise us..TC n GN

You can relieve your stress by mentioning them here......😉

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: why3

Misti, I got a bad feeling too from watching Rubina's section. They made it look as if she is pulling tantrums on small things and then "April Fool" joke was also not clear. Also in one of the interview late last week, Rubina was joking about julaha family running with jewels as Dev won't like Chanda. In today's episode, he thinks Chanda is a good person and would be perfect for Rohan. So did they change the story again? If the intent was to keep Dev confused about Radhika's identity as CB, why did they show that precap today.

I think they are changing the story almost every day. Now this article about Dev dropping the idea of stopping Radhika and Rohan's wedding because he overhears something. If the article is true, then he should be stopping the wedding rather than letting it go forward because then he would not be a hero in anybody's eyes.
To me they are going towards the CB1 story where Radhika would be kept in dark for a long time about the groom's identity just as Dev was confused. All their initial articles about making it a different show with different storyline are out of window.
They are now showing previous shoots (of promos etc.) as dream sequences. It feels as if somebody is really trying to sabotage the show. If it is DJs, why start the show in the first place. They are keeping the story of their other show consistent despite very low ratings. Why bring in creative heads/directors that destroyed the previous CB1?


Angie that section and todays article can either signify that something is wrong or that its just a ploy to get the audience worked up.......well all these articles and media houses are usually invited by the PHs for publicity so I am keeping an open mind here.It left a bad taste because I did not like how that clip was shot and edited.

Well Dev today was vague about Chanda......he liked her because he thought that she was for Rohan and he was smiling vaguely all the time looking for Radhika......maybe he won't like her when he gets to meet her more frequently. Chanda is quite forward and she pushes her way through....Dev does not like that....... As for the story..the clips containing Dev and Radhika were most probably shot before and the article regarding Dev being heart broken and Radhika thinking about her attraction for Dev when the mother is saying Rohan is KK might have been written later although both came out on Saturday......so maybe the confusion track was by the eariler batch of creative directors...the shettys............which got changed ....but they released both the information to judge audience reaction..........maybe they have got some sort of feedback.........and maybe they had to edit out some parts which were filled up by the dream song....That dream song was shot much before. These are all my guesses..lets see how much of the article comes out to be true.

As for Dev......he will definitely be turned into villain if he steps aside knowing that Radhika is going to be used.......It looked for me that the article was again released to judge peoples reaction.
Edited by misti73 - 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: misti73


Angie that section and todays article can either signify that something is wrong or that its just a ploy to get the audience worked up.......well all these articles and media houses are usually invited by the PHs for publicity so I am keeping an open mind here.It left a bad taste because I did not like how that clip was shot and edited.

I remember the number of articles that were published just before the Abhay track and after Dev's death. Unfortunately, all the bad parts of the articles came out true and none of the good parts were shown. So again no trust in PH here especially as each article mentions that TRP is going to drive the track. Here they are not even starting a track or developing anything and again go with the ratings driving the story. Very bad idea for any serial.

Well Dev today was vague about Chanda......he liked her because he thought that she was for Rohan and he was smiling vaguely all the time looking for Radhika......maybe he won't like her when he gets to meet her more frequently. Chanda is quite forward and she pushes her way through....Dev does not like that....... As for the story..the clips containing Dev and Radhika were most probably shot on the day that India-Australia match was going on (although it was broadcasted on saturday).....that means I think it was shot on wednesday.......and the article regarding Dev being heart broken and Radhika thinking about her attraction for Dev when the mother is saying Rohan is KK came out also on Saturday......so maybe the confusion track was by the eariler batch of creative directors...the shettys............which got changed ....but they released both the information to judge audience reaction..........maybe they have got some sort of feedback.........and maybe they had to edit out some parts which were filled up by the dream song....That dream song was shot much before. These are all my guesses.ets see how much of the article comes out to be true.

Even today they did not show Dev asking about names of the daughters or Radhika curious about Dev's name. Why this nonsense about names. Initially they had that Mr. Mathura contest which is now totally and probably the intention was for Radhika to think that Dev's name is Rohan and hence makes it easier for her to believe that Rohan is KK. It may still be the intention but who knows. So lets see if Dev finds out about the name of sisters tomorrow along with the truth about Radhika being the intended bride. Still want Mansaram to tell Radhika the entire truth. Him leaving it to his wife to explain to Radhika does not go with his character.

As for Dev......he will definitely be turned into villain if he steps aside knowing that Radhika is going to be used.......It looked for me that the article was again released to judge peoples reaction.

If the article is right, Dev would totally fall in my eyes. If they show Dev hesitating because he wants the best for Radhika and think Rohan can provide that as he is rich and from a good family. Also Dev thinks of Rohan as a nice person. In addition, Dev is not sure of Radhika's feelings for him. So in that case his hesitation or stepping back is justifiable. But stepping back because Rohan can get the property is the worst thing.

I am not sure how they are going to show spiritual love of Dev and Radhika if both are willing to give up each other like gifts to fulfill their obligations. When will these shows stop showing relationships as things that can be distributed without considering feelings of the intended person who is going to be gifted. On top of that, these triangles and rectangles involve these one-dimensional unwatchable characters. They did that with Vishaka and Kanika in CB1 and are now going towards Chanda and Rohan. Both have no depth and hence are not attractive as a third party. Shantanu in my opinion was a better choice for a triangle as he had depth before he too was destroyed. Why do they have revolve all storylines around Dev and RAdhika. Why can't they show these characters having some independent lives but intersect with Dev and Radhika's story. That ensures longevity of the show and not these artificial situations and characters.

The better story would be for Dev and Radhika to know the truth. Radhika is confused about her feelings and torn between the rituals that were drilled into her head and her heart that is subconsciously telling her about Dev. Dev is torn between providing a better life for Radhika vs. getting her for himself. Both of them decide to choose each other when they realize that others are just using them and rituals or obligations are secondary. Then only the spiritual love is justified. Stop making Maheswari so powerful by making others dumb. How can Padma not figure out that Maheswari was taunting her when she could do so 12 years ago? Bring back the complexities of characters and also don't show inconsistencies where Radhika thinks that it is a sin to even have gulaal but then is either made to live with Rohan because she mistakenly thinks he is her husband or whatever. Show that she chooses her love over rituals and false relationships. Same for Dev. Then go for other stories where Dev looks for his parents or Radhika's past life is involved or how Viraath and Dev clash when the RP title is given to Dev. There are other dimensions besides this false triangular or rectangular love story.


Also so far they have shown that Dev knows that Radhika is not aware about this rishta coming for her. So he has to think about her feelings. First of all, why did she have this misunderstanding? Secondly, would she be happy to want to marry someone who she thought was meant for her sister. He has to question her on her wants too.

Similarly, Chanda is shown hearing Dev saying that he likes the sister of the bride for himself. So if they show Dev being confused about the intended bride and Chanda correcting him, she has to know that Dev likes Radhika and not her. Of course that won't be a moral issue for a person like Chanda but still they have to show the reasoning.

Lastly if Chanda wants Radhika's things she has to go for Rohan even if his family wants a Brahmin girl. She wouldn't be satisfied marrying a servant.
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