Mistis thoughts 25th Feb 2011 - Page 4

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Originally posted by: misti73

Sometimes I wonder why Indian audience are not tired of that by now.

I wonder about that too.

You are right Misti as myself being indian audience i, as well as people knowing me ask how you can tolerate to watch all the crap going on....Yes for one thing i am tired of these Hindi soap sagas which are churning out same kind of stuff ,woman suffering without any uttering a word, shedding tears at the drop of the hat ,keeping in mind the famous line of some poet or writer Nari Teri Yehi Kahani AAnkho Mein Neer....do not remember further..on the other hand plotting ,planning,making weird faces all with the masala of viciousness, loudness, stands the other female as if she does not have any other thing to do...This time i expect DJ,s to be subtle with their negative characters, for once they can afford to be different from going on trends,as they have earlier produced good soaps not the recent one..As for love story is concerned its not a straight line ...there is also lots of drama with turns and twists....depends how you weave the story using all the characters....Even fairy tales are not complete without problems.....Misti ,Angie you are very good critic and hope PH should go through your comments so that CB2 will be better...

Originally posted by: neerjashingla

[ You are right Misti as myself being indian audience i, as well as people knowing me ask how you can tolerate to watch all the crap going on....Yes for one thing i am tired of these Hindi soap sagas which are churning out same kind of stuff ,woman suffering without any uttering a word, shedding tears at the drop of the hat ,keeping in mind the famous line of some poet or writer Nari Teri Yehi Kahani AAnkho Mein Neer....do not remember further..on the other hand plotting ,planning,making weird faces all with the masala of viciousness, loudness, stands the other female as if she does not have any other thing to do...This time i expect DJ,s to be subtle with their negative characters, for once they can afford to be different from going on trends,as they have earlier produced good soaps not the recent one..As for love story is concerned its not a straight line ...there is also lots of drama with turns and twists....depends how you weave the story using all the characters....Even fairy tales are not complete without problems.....Misti ,Angie you are very good critic and hope PH should go through your comments so that CB2 will be better...

Read this poem such a long time back in school days but altogether forget about the poet, thanks to you people...My using these lines were in sarcastic way..Read about all those characters you mentioned above,how they can be compared with todays soaps characters..Here again in CB2 there should be justification for their actions and not should be there for the game of quick TRP for that they have to be in grey shade...Not all the going on soaps are in to run of the mill kind of stuff...As for Zee , why does not it look around as there are new content based soaps are coming with freshness...

Misiti Loved your Poem alot!! It was fun to read!! Loved your thought on the epsiode!!

Originally posted by: why3

Neerja, the poem is "Naari Teri Yehi Kahani, anchal mein he dudh aur aakhon mein hai pani." But this line was written some 50 years ago when the women were more subjugated. Also, he wrote a lot of poems and stories from a view point of a woman. He is the one who wrote from Urmila's (Lakshman's wife), Yashodhara's (Siddharth) and Uttara (Abhimanyu's wife) point of view. Have only read about Yashodhara (I believe it was a poem). But don't know what he wrote about Uttara and Urmila.

Subtle characters are so much more interesting. I haven't read Hamlet (know the story though) but read Othello and Macbeth in high school and did a big analysis of the latter novel. It was interesting to me because there was so much complexity in all these characters. Similarly have read JaiShankar Prasad's Kamayani and Chankaya (the book name may be different and it was a drama). He wrote about a century ago and his women characters suffered. But they were strong and not dumb and sacrificed for right causes. Even the villians had complexity and actually there were no outright villians or heros. The good characters and evil characters had all shades and were grey.

Hindi soaps shove everything in audience face. In CB1, the original character of Amma was interesting. She was shown as an extremely religious woman who is a hypocrite which made sense because people who proclaim about the religion the loudest are the ones who violate the basic principles of their faith. She discriminated against Radhika by not eating from the plate she held and yet ate the food that Radhika cooked. That is also realistic. Her favoring of her grand-daughter and snatching from Radhika to make sure Vishaka got the best of everything made sense. But then that whole burning stuff took over and they made her more powerful than was possible. They did so by making everyone including Dev dumb.

I really hope that they don't do it here by making Maheswari the Amma where despite her obvious greed, she manages to control things because everyone is dumb. Show cleverness and different motives and lot of dynamics between different characters. They have lot of characters in CB2 and hence can utilize them wisely. They have a lot of backstories that should be explored properly. The audience already love the jodi of Dev and Radhika and so they don't have to revolve everything around their separation and unification.

Angie and Neerja all interesting stories usually have grey characters more than one dimensional ones.In your face drame usually works for a short period of time and then turns of the viewers. Angie Shakespeare was a master in creating very interesting characters....whether villians or the leads and the characters are not artificially dumbed down. Infact none of the good writers dumb down their leads. ....the leads are supposed to grow stronger as the story progresses.

I really hope that they don't do it here by making Maheswari the Amma where despite her obvious greed, she manages to control things because everyone is dumb. Show cleverness and different motives and lot of dynamics between different characters. They have lot of characters in CB2 and hence can utilize them wisely. They have a lot of backstories that should be explored properly. The audience already love the jodi of Dev and Radhika and so they don't have to revolve everything around their separation and unification.

Angie this is exactly what I have been worried about.....Maheshwari being made the one who controls when she is too open to do that. The best manipulators are usually hidden.............If Maheshwari is shown to control everything then they better show some other character allowing her to do that because that character will also gain,........but if Maheswari crosses the line then that character will hit back..........there are loads of interesting characters in that house.........hotheaded, spoilt and rebelious Virat, widow Padma who has been insulted by Maheswari loads of time and who also knows to hit back but yet when needed she can also allow herself to be shown as someone who is bullied by Maheshwari................the sharp and shrewd daima who although suspect Maheshwari but is not that bothered about Padma.......The eldest son who mostly spends his time singing and is henpecked by the wife but is he really a fool or someone who is lazy but wants to enjoy good life and lets his wife do all the work........Rohan who is spoilt but will he really be spineless or someone who is just bidding his time or someone who is on the right path but does not want to show.........use these characters and their interactions with each other to bring the twists.........why should these interesting characters be dumbed down to make Maheshwari stronger.

One thing i should accept i wait to read your comments because somewhere also i am thinking on the same lines but can not express them properly what i want to say....Without bad people you can not value the goodness and it should be just go to the extent of bad not turned in to ugliness...As for now PH has the time to colour his characters whether black or white but better should be in Grey shades which gives them more scope to mystify the tracks....Subtlety also make things less obvious as you can not read the person, s motive..

Originally posted by: why3

Hope they don't do that to Dev's character in CB2. But as you said TRPs are the channel's main criteria. Chalhov's article talked about sequels being a new flavor of the season and hence they are coming with sequels of the shows which were at top at one time.

They better not touch Devs characterisation...he is bumbumbhole with brains of Kanha. I am thinking of Bhoothnath as the adult name of Bumbumbhole....but most probably will use both. I read about the SP show sequel and read about the the other channel show. I think the Sony one is most probably series.

Originally posted by: misti73

They better not touch Devs characterisation...he is bumbumbhole with brains of Kanha. I am thinking of Bhoothnath as the adult name of Bumbumbhole....but most probably will use both. I read about the SP show sequel and read about the the other channel show. I think the Sony one is most probably series.

Originally posted by: hotie

Misiti Loved your Poem alot!! It was fun to read!! Loved your thought on the epsiode!!

Originally posted by: why3

Oh, I love the name Bhootnath for adult Dev with your characterization. Talking of Bhootnath, I have seen the second part of Bhootnath movie about at least forty-fifty times courtesy of my nephew who at three was obsessed with that movie and then had to answer him every time about why the kid's mother played by Juhi Chawla slapped her little son. Our bollywood movies and their melodrama...

I too love bhumbhole with his teddy bear especially when both are hungry. I just hope that they keep that characterization because your comments about him are way too funny. So would like to read that in the future too.