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Posted: 12 years ago
#61
with all the discussion going on i would only be saying that

just wait for the final result and till den give ur views offcoursely positive to sony.
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hrideyy
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Posted: 12 years ago
#62
now where is Anuj going for auditions
This is so confusing
hate this mystery surrounding things
give a clear cut official statement
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Posted: 12 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: princessunara



did u actually try out the promotion?
its a 2 way thing they r using ChanMan to promote the Sony online pages..

remember due to the global and youth fan base and almost cult fan following for the 1st time related to Indian TV.. the ball game is quite different.
Sony is a global network and Sanaya is the BEST vehicle they can have..

If they want visibility in the internet Sanaya alone can draw in 10 times more traffic than all of their shows put together.. this is not boasting but actual fact..

so i think this PH paying is usually true, but this time Sony is using CC couple to promote their FB page n twitter n stuff instead of the other way around as usual.. :)



Sunara :- We can see things that we want to see. As far as I have read papers, Sony has good audience on internet so maybe the PH is trying to tap in the internet fans to get the TRPs up. I don't claim to know the inside workings of the TV serials and we don't know if Sony is using CC couple to promote their FB page or twitter(In that case, logically I would think BALH would be an ideal choice for the channel as the couple Ram and Priya are well known to Sony audience and that serial has been Top TRP getter for quite a long time) or PH using FB page and twitter so that TRPs can hike up (which looks more plausible). My personal opinion is different from what you have written here but let's hope things work out for the show.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#64

ya let's jsut wait n see...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: psarada



@showviewer:- May I know where you are from - I mean India or abroad? I live in BLR and do you know that DABH is actually remade in as a Kannada serial and that serial is a top TRP getter in Kannada. The same story of a girl trying to become an IPS officer and the guy being a halwai and the marriage being a dokha marriage. Yes the exact show everyone thinks that is crap and have condemned to in this forum. And that serial is actually a huge hit with my Kannada speaking office friends. I have moved to another group 6 months back so I am no longer in touch with them to know if the story line is same or not but I think it is following the same story. I personally don't have lot of regional channels apart from few Kannada and Telugu mega channels and Kannada had KBC and Big Boss, both raked in huge TRPs. So yes the concept even though we hate it and treat it off as a bore must have stuck chord with audience and that is why it is working in regional languages. And on the same note do you know that dubbed telugu version of IPK is the highest TRP grosser serial for Telugu and it is so popular that Telugu TV artists and association did a protest at MaaTV to stop the telecast of the dubbed shows because they wanted to save their livelihood and the hungama went for a long time before the Chief minister intervened and now Maa TV is not going to dub any other "hit" serials in Telugu because they want to have people in Telugu grow up and make money in Telugu TV industry.

Regarding Badalte, please read the TOI articles. The show was not yanked due to low TRPs, the show was removed because the channel and PH didn't agree on the way to take the story ahead. The PH felt that instead of compromising on the story line they could very well have the story end and so they opted to go off-air. I say it again, unless the concept clicks, TRPs don't come and one person can't drag in the TRPs. Sanaya's name got the initial TRPs but the story didn't hold the viewers in.


Hello @psarada, I live abroad and I know I am not part of TRP contributing audience. I am also very familiar with the issues regarding the dubbed versions of hit shows etc. as I have lots of family down South.
I have read the TOI article on Badalte Rishtey but it also got TRP of .5 to .9 and the maximum it went upto to was around 1.1 or 1.3 not more. So, tiff between PH and Channel could be on issues relating to TRP rising methods, which includes changing storyline or tracks...remember getting a hint of this when the news of show being axed hit the media. If I find links I will PM you. Bottomline is show got closed and it was channel's decision and creatives never got to tell their story completely.
Psarada, I am not dissing DABH or other TRP topping shows as carp, what I am saying is that I don't relate to them or find them good in terms of acting or storyline, but who am I to judge those who watch it regularly. Some of my own family follows these SP shows ardently, and that is how I saw a few episodes when I was in India for a vacation. They have hooked a section of the population and even IPK in its heyday could not get the kind of TRPs some of these shows have. Finding a connect does not mean great quality or content it means like someone here said before me that a desire to watch for whatever reason and may not necessarily be in terms of quality.
Another point is even with digitization, the measurement device may have improved but the sample size is still miniscule compared to the number of TV sets across the length and breadth of the country. There has been so much written on the number of TRP machines installed, where in the country have they been set up etc. It not a comprehensive measurement that is for sure. How else can one explain the popularity of IPK when the TRP of the show fluctuated so much.
I understand the importance of TRPs for shows, despite the questionable methodology,and the connect aspect of soaps but that does not automatically mean that these are quality products in terms of concepts, story writing, acting or execution. The same goes for so many BW movies which garner big BO returns and popularity, but content-wise there is much to be desired.
This is just my point of view and I am writing from the understanding of what I have seen and read so far, it's not meant to offend anyone... as I said before, who am I to judge anyone for their viewing choices, my only concern is what I choose to spend my time over.

Edited by showviewer - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#66
wat is this man!!!
what is he auditioning for
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: showviewer


Hello @psarada, I live abroad and I know I am not part of TRP contributing audience. I am also very familiar with the issues regarding the dubbed versions of hit shows etc. as I have lots of family down South.
I have read the TOI article on Badalte Rishtey but it also got TRP of .5 to .9 and the maximum it go to was around 1.1 or 1.3 not more. So, tiff between PH and Channel could be on issues relating to TRP rising methods, which includes changing storyline or tracks...remember getting a hint of this when the news of show being axed hit the media. If I find links I will PM you. Bottomline is show got closed and it was channel's decision and creatives never got to tell their story completely.
Psarada, I am not dissing DABH or other TRP topping shows as carp, what I am saying is that I don't relate to them or find them good in terms of acting or storyline, but who am I to judge those who watch it regularly. Some of my own family follows these SP shows ardently, and that is how I saw a few episodes when I was in India for a vacation. They have hooked a section of the population and even IPK in its heyday could not get the kind TRPs some of these shows have. Finding a connect does not mean great quality or content it means like someone here said before me that a desire to watch for whatever reason and may not necessarily be in terms of quality.
Another point is even with digitization, the measurement device may have improved but the sample size is still miniscule compared to the number of TV sets across the length and breadth of the country. There has been so much written on the number of TRP machines installed, where in the country have they been set up etc. It not a comprehensive measurement that is for sure. How else can one explain the popularity of IPK when the TRP of the show fluctuated so much.
I understand the importance of TRPs for shows, despite the questionable methodology,and the connect aspect of soaps but that does not automatically mean that these are quality products in terms of concepts, story writing, acting or execution. The same goes for so many BW movies which garner big BO returns and popularity, but contentwise there is much to be desired.
This is just my point of view and I am writing from the understanding of what I have seen and read so far, don't meant to offend anyone... as I said before, who am I to judge anyone for their viewing choices, my only concern is what I choose to spend my time over.


The TRP system was revamped around 6 months back... but what exactly did they do? Did they increase the number of boxes? Did they decide to depend on the STBs as they made them compulsory... I thought they extended that deadline.

I still think that unless they are measuring directly from the STBs ... the system is flawed... and even if they were doing it . it would still be flawed as it would be the metros only...

So while TRPs are a necessary evil , accurate TRPs are the need of the day and that's what no one seems to agree on!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Newbiesoapfan


The TRP system was revamped around 6 months back... but what exactly did they do? Did they increase the number of boxes? Did they decide to depend on the STBs as they made them compulsory... I thought they extended that deadline.

I still think that unless they are measuring directly from the STBs ... the system is flawed... and even if they were doing it . it would still be flawed as it would be the metros only...

So while TRPs are a necessary evil , accurate TRPs are the need of the day and that's what no one seems to agree on!


Very true ... agree with you, esp @bold

The last article I read on TRPs was in the HT a few weeks back and they said the number of TRP meters had been increased from 6000+ to around 9000+ ...

I don't understand ... I thought the whole point of going digital was to allow measurements directly from the STBs ... compare 9000+ to 146 million ... that's the number of tv sets in India, and you see how flawed the system is and how easily it can be weighted towards a small segment. If you have such a small sample size, you cannot call it representative, however much you argue semantics ...

Accurate TRPs are needed ... but also as I said earlier, the Indian population is not homogenous ... witness the diverse views for the current TRP topper show within this forum ... so how to calibrate TRPs to advertisers needs as well as to viewers tastes, is another conundrum. Because at the end of the day, TRPS are for advertisers to decide where to spend their money ... if the larger segment is skewed towards shows like DABH and the like, then those shows are what we will get ... because the niche urban audience is not large enough to matter.
Sony has taken a bold step in targeting urban viewers only ... but can they keep it up and find a way of getting feedback other than TRPS, which may not be high for the niche audience which is their actual target audience? I can speak for myself when I say except for one recent example, I have never been an audience for any of the high TRP shows ...

Too much headache ... let the channels and the advertisers sort it out, it's their headache, not mine 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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More rumor mongering?

I, for one am loving CC and enjoying it.
Hope these are just baseless rumors.

TRPs? Unfortunately, only some Indian TV households count. As an International viewer, I don't count where TRPs are concerned.

But as an International viewer, I can tell anyone this, in full confidence;

I don't understand Hindi, I am non-Indian, I am clueless about the culture (learning a bit now,) I don't purport to understand the subtle nuances in the daily epis (thanks God for some IF members who take the pain and pleasure to 'talk' about and analyze the epis!) and yet I have subscribed to a foreign channel - Sony - just to watch Sanaya. And there are many like me.

Besides, Sanaya is not a fool, and if the show was going to be axed in a few weeks, do you think she would have taken it on?? Especially, in her present status as an International icon?? Sanaya is not only an indian TV star, she is a global phenomenon.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: kbtr

More rumor mongering?


I, for one am loving CC and enjoying it.
Hope these are just baseless rumors.

TRPs? Unfortunately, only some Indian TV households count. As an International viewer, I don't count where TRPs are concerned.

But as an International viewer, I can tell anyone this, in full confidence;

I don't understand Hindi, I am non-Indian, I am clueless about the culture (learning a bit now,) I don't purport to understand the subtle nuances in the daily epis (thanks God for some IF members who take the pain and pleasure to 'talk' about and analyze the epis!) and yet I have subscribed to a foreign channel - Sony - just to watch Sanaya. And there are many like me.

Besides, Sanaya is not a fool, and if the show was going to be axed in a few weeks, do you think she would have taken it on?? Especially, in her present status as an International icon?? Sanaya is not only an indian TV star, she is a global phenomenon.



I am also an international viewer. I am not Indian but from Subcontinent; I also subscribed to Sony just for Sanaya Irani.

I do not believe the rumors are true...the show is getting very interesting with each passing day.

However, if it turns out to be true then, I will follow Sanaya what ever channel she works for. I moved from Starplus to Sony and I will move form Sony to whatever channel her show is airing.

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