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Laya Narayanan

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Posted: 7 years ago

#201

Okay, Akka 😆

I watched DKDM, and yes, SRJ was awesome there! 👏

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Srutha

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SRJ makes a great Shiva too <3

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Laya Narayanan

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Originally posted by: KrishnaPriyaa
SRJ makes a great Shiva too <3

I heard he played Lord Shiva, but I didn't watch that show yet 😛

I became a studyholic these days 🤪

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Daakshaayani Aadarsh

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Posted: 7 years ago

#204

Originally posted by: SoulfulRhythmic
Maa, Akka, Anyone? 😕

Me is here! 😛

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Srutha

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Posted: 7 years ago

#205

Me too here 😆

Sakhi, you do live 🤣

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Janaki

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Posted: 7 years ago

#206

Originally posted by: KrishnaPriyaa
I have heard that too 😕
One Vishnu, nine Lakshmis. Enough for Dwapar 😆😆

People are illogical idiots, who don't see any sense in anything. Why would Lakshmi marry Rudra-ansh? Why would Yogamaya marry anyone who is not a Shiva-ansh? Mahamaya is Mahalakshmi, who is in nine forms as Radha and the Ashtabharya. Yogamaya is Parvati roopini

Originally posted by: KrishnaPriyaa

That is very idiotic 🤢
It makes no sense also. Arjuna does not need to be Vishnu to be great 😕 He is Rudransh too, but human (as it is an ansh and not poorna)

Hi guys! I just want to jump in with my opinion on this. 😉

Arjuna and Krishna being Nara-Narayana is not something made up in recent times. This is mentioned not only in Bhagavata Purana, but also Vishnu Purana. In fact, in Vishnu Purana it says that Nara-Narayana were the sons of Dharma and his wife Murti, and that they were the fourth dual-incarnation of Vishnu. Narayana was the divine aspect and Nara was the human aspect. They were born to kill the rakshasa Sahasrakavacha, who evaded them for 1000 years until they were born as Arjuna and Krishna and the demon as Karna, and thus Karna was killed by Arjuna's hands with the help of Krishna.

Arjuna did not need to be Vishnu to be great, but he was. He had that aspect of Vishnu in him. While Krishna loved and supported all the Pandavas equally, he drove Arjuna's chariot in the war, because they both had that inner connection as Nara-Narayana. It was also atop Arjuna's chariot that Hanuman flew on the flag stead, because it was the chariot of Vishnu.

Yogamaya is not only Parvati Ma. She is a form of Adi Parashakti, and serves as Vishnu's energy in the creation of the world. She is Parvati, Saraswati and Lakshmi. As Parvati she is Vishnu's sister, and as Lakshmi she is his wife. Thus, Subhadra matched both the Vishnu ansh in Arjuna as well as the Shiva ansh.

There are many belief systems in our culture, and while we may or may not agree with all of them, I think we should respect them at least. It's neither idiotic nor illogical to believe the Nara-Narayana concept or that Yogamaya is both Lakshmi and Parvati, because every belief system has an explanation for it. We may not agree with it, but we don't have the right to call others idiots for believing it. 😳

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Srutha

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Posted: 7 years ago

#207

Janu, we believe in opposite things then.

In our culture, Arjuna is Rudransh, and there is only one Vishnu in Dwapara, Krishna.

As for Yogamaya, again, our culture believes that she is a form of Parvati. For us, Mahalakshmi is Adi Parashakti, and thus, the Mahamaya. From her arose every feminine form is one of the beliefs. While I believe it is more complicated that that, I cannot accept Yogamaya as all forms of Tridevi. To me, Yogamaya is Parvati roopini, and thus Vishnu's sister in Dwapar.

My belief of why Arya drove Arjuna's chariot is different. Krishna is the one giving direction to the one who needs direction the most. And Karna Bhaiya being a demon is also something I don't believe in.

Okay Janu. As you wish *sighs*

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Janaki

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Posted: 7 years ago

#208

Originally posted by: KrishnaPriyaa
Janu, we believe in opposite things then.
In our culture, Arjuna is Rudransh, and there is only one Vishnu in Dwapara, Krishna.
As for Yogamaya, again, our culture believes that she is a form of Parvati. For us, Mahalakshmi is Adi Parashakti, and thus, the Mahamaya. From her arose every feminine form is one of the beliefs. While I believe it is more complicated that that, I cannot accept Yogamaya as all forms of Tridevi. To me, Yogamaya is Parvati roopini, and thus Vishnu's sister in Dwapar.
My belief of why Arya drove Arjuna's chariot is different. Krishna is the one giving direction to the one who needs direction the most. And Karna Bhaiya being a demon is also something I don't believe in.

Okay Janu. As you wish *sighs*

Yeah, this is what I mean, Srutha. Our religion has so many sects within it that each believe something different, and to me nothing is illogical or idiotic unless it directly insults a God (like Shaivas insulting Vishnu, Vaishnavs insulting Shiva, etc), because almost every scripture says that insulting one God will not earn the blessings of another, but beyond that, believing different things in regards to the puranas is totally okay.

In regards to Arjuna, all the Pandavas needed direction at different points of their life, not only Arjuna, so for me I strongly believe in the Nara-Narayana connection. Same for Karna, I believe he was Sahasrakavacha and that Duryodhan was Kalipurusha, and thus another reason why they were such strong friends. But it's not just us, many many people disagree when it comes to the Mahabharat because there are so many different versions and beliefs when it comes to the Kauravas, Pandavas and the incarnations. I can accept other view points, as long as none of them are insulting to God.

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Janaki

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Posted: 7 years ago

#209

Originally posted by: KrishnaPriyaa

Also, what the hell is wrong with everyone living together in Indraprastha? Didn't all the Dwaraka ladies do it without any issues? 🤔

They didn't though, it was a promise the Pandavas made to Draupadi that she would be the only wife in Indraprastha. Only Subhadra managed to navigate that promise. 😳

I do believe that Draupadi loved all the Pandavas, but in that era a woman who had multiple husbands (which was rare itself) suffered criticism and scorn from society. It was a lot for one woman to bear, and thus the Pandavas made this promise to Panchali that no matter what society says, in her own household she will never have to compete with anyone or receive scorn.

The Dwaraka ladies did it, but remember, they were all incarnations of Lakshmi. It wasn't the case for everyone else. 😆 Most co-wives didn't have a hunky dory cheesy friendship. Even if multiple marriages were common, disagreements and competition among co-wives were also common, and thus the Pandavas wanted to keep Draupadi away from all that since she was already sacrificing a lot for them. The Dwaraka ladies were an exception, but they weren't the norm.

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Srutha

@SriMaatangi

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Posted: 7 years ago

#210

Let's not argue about the Adi Parashakti thing. Agree to disagree?

Where did the Pandavas promise Draupadi that? Only Subuadrw navigating it is unfair to the other wives of the Pandavas, and shows partiality on everyone's part, which Krishna for sure didn't have. And neither did the Pandavas or Panchali. Panchali is the Patrani, yes. But she knew her Lords loved their other wives as much as they loved her. The promise seems to contradict her nature, to me.

Edited by KrishnaPriyaa - 7 years ago

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