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Posted: 8 years ago
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Swaraaagini..mahn I detest my association with that showl, even if for an infinitely short period of time🤣
Appy its pretty good sofar..its not very depressing atleast right now, since they started with soldiers coming back..and resettling..and there are some flashbacks about their years as prisoners..but its apparently based on a hit Israeli show..

the crux of the show is more about coming back to normalcy, for the soldiers and their families both..and getting over the sufferings and pain..

Colors - I sort of watch Devanshi show once in a week😆 the kiddo is loveee! but I know I will dump it soon..remaining shows are just not worth it at all🥱
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Halwa I can't believe you watched Swaragini😆
After BV I was watching Udaan.Now I have left Udaan too.🥱
They may be sticking to their theme and combining with family drama but it is just way too OTT for my taste.But still it is better than so many other shows I guess.

Devanshi I catch a few scenes here and there too.That kiddo is too cute😆

May be I'll catch a few episodes of POW.
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Some IF top star's show folded up even before it went on air.
On what basis are these so called stars considered successful?
Even Rangeela channel seems to be all over themselves in trying to give footage to these stars at their award shows.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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hello all...after long long time...got back to work so super busy managing home, office and most imp girls 😆
another surgical strike by Modi...mighty impressed...yes for now their is inconvenience...but in long term i hope things turn out for good...maybe the implementation could have been better...but it is difficult i can imagine to detail out too many things when you want to blast a surprise.

Anyways here NRIs are worried as well...how to exchange their notes 😆 we have about 6K so its ok...maybe ill keep the notes as souvenirs for my girls...😉
but people are having quite an amount of cash and now in a fix as how to exchange..this is what happens when you carry more than the allowed amount 😊
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TV - not watching anything as of now...sometime super dancers, and kapil...and big boss..weekend ka wow :)

Appy lucky you...Voot is still only available in India...waiting for it to start in europe but i am not too positive that it will be soon. Would love to restart BV...how i miss it...
post BV tried following Asoka with my parents...but it was a mess and left it towards the end...maybe will give a try to SS-RD show...just to see how the return of the hero is...😆.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rdjha

hello all...after long long time...got back to work so super busy managing home, office and most imp girls 😆

another surgical strike by Modi...mighty impressed...yes for now their is inconvenience...but in long term i hope things turn out for good...maybe the implementation could have been better...but it is difficult i can imagine to detail out too many things when you want to blast a surprise.

Anyways here NRIs are worried as well...how to exchange their notes 😆 we have about 6K so its ok...maybe ill keep the notes as souvenirs for my girls...😉
but people are having quite an amount of cash and now in a fix as how to exchange..this is what happens when you carry more than the allowed amount 😊
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TV - not watching anything as of now...sometime super dancers, and kapil...and big boss..weekend ka wow :)

Appy lucky you...Voot is still only available in India...waiting for it to start in europe but i am not too positive that it will be soon. Would love to restart BV...how i miss it...
post BV tried following Asoka with my parents...but it was a mess and left it towards the end...maybe will give a try to SS-RD show...just to see how the return of the hero is...😆.

Rashmi 😊
How are things with you and your girls?
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Thankfully I don't keep much cash with me so I didn't have problems on exchange front.
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There is nothing worth our time on fiction front right now.🥱

So I am watching old episodes of BV on Voot when I get time.Now when I watch those episodes it feels like re reading chapters of a book rather than watching a show.😆
Checked on Shanidev which is not so bad.But nothing that can drag me to TV everyday at fixed time.I am glad about that actually.BV was like an addiction/habit with me and it became difficult when BV ended for me after Anandi's death.There was this habit of switching on TV everyday at 8pm for so many years and that habit became so difficult to get rid of.So I decided that TV will not be my sole source of fiction any more.
So I am back to reading in a big way.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Came across this article.
It's high time fiction shows became stories with fixed no of episodes.That looks like the only way to improve the qulaity of entertainment.
Way back Doordarshan had this kind of format.Some of those shows are still remembered for their stories and characters twenty years later.Shahrukh Khan is a product of such shows.Those shows of his are still remembered not just for the sake of Shahrukh Khan but also for the heart touching stories and characters.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/hindi/In-daily-soaps-content-suffers-because-of-TRP/articleshow/55532612.cms

MUMBAI: When does a talented television writer get frustrated and want to quit? When the programming head begins flogging the subject but also demands "depth" from the writer. Since depth is not something in the air that the writer can switch on, the dumbing down begins and ultimately the writer gets frustrated and quits. These and other issues confronting writers who stradle literature and television were discussed threadbare at an interesting panel discussion between journalist-turned-author and televison writer Gajra Kottary and noted producer-director Vinta Nanda at St. Paul's Institute of Education and Communication on Sunday. The discussion was aptly titled "Can we please bring literature back to TV?"

Nanda began predictably by praising Kottary for penning successful short stories (Fragile Victories and The Last Laugh), novel (Broken Melodies), Hindi novel Kora Kagaz and soaps like Hamare Tumhare, Astitva and Balika Vadhu. But when did Kottary actually begin thinking of writing short stories and then for television? After she married and moved to Mumbai, Kottary, a Delhi girl and then a journalist found a good in-house critic in her husband. "You cannot go far as a journalist because you don't ask many questions," her husband Sailesh Kottary told her. Every one, including her husband seating among the audience, laughed.

The discussion turned more interesting when the two panelists came to the issue of dumbing down, both in literature and television. "Television thrives on drama while novel demands a different treatment. It becomes quite terrifying when minute by minute analysis of TRP is done. The content suffers," said Kottary. Former journalist Carol Andrade who now heads St. Paul's Institute of Education and Communication wanted to know if audience have ever influenced her to change the content of a serial. Kottary recalled the barrage of protests-some people actually took morchas-when the male and female protagonists in Balika Vadhu were separated. "We didn't want to appear as if we endorsed child marriage. This was against the popular demand but we stood our ground," she said.

Publishers use the gimmicks by getting bad books endorsed by famous writers. What to producers of serials do? "Many have tried famous stars in the serials but the gimmick has failed. It is the story which sustains a soap or serial, not gimmicks," Kottary said. Nanda suggested that successful serials like Balika Vadhu should be turned into books. Hopefully, someone will bite the bait.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanks Aparna for the article!

Protests when J-A separated? News to me..How could people be blind to the depths J had fallen?? No wonder, EK's soaps like KB still get their TRPs..

Soap scenario is terrible these days- channels are currently obsessed with psychotic characters and that's become unbearable..

will catch up on GK's Zindagi soap. she must be having a great time writing for this soap 😉😊

Edit - Has anyone watched/watching DD's new show on Sitara - the 8 PM one.. Surekhaji is playing dadi's role
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Bechari betis-biwis' rona-dhona rake in the TRPs for Hindi soaps


In the not so rose tinted world of daily soaps, the TRP froth comes when the spunky female protagonist is cornered, physically abused (literally, which of course in telly parlance is defined as tashan ka pyaar) and reduced to a pitiable person shedding tears at her misfortune.

Surprisingly for a medium that caters primarily to women audiences, abuse and humiliation of the heroine is what makes the viewers empathise/sympathise with their favourite bahu/beti's plight and sees a massive rise in the eyeballs. For most soapmakers and broadcasters the theme of a bechari bhartiya nari matching her wits with a powerful billionaire hero is the stuff that works wonderfully for remote control junkies who lap up everything that's tearjerking.


Regressive Ive content ups the viewers' support
In a progressive show like Naamkarann, single mom Asha (Barkha Bisht Sengupta) has been subjected to constant taunts and ill-treatments for having a child out of wedlock; in Kuch Rang Pyaar ke Aise Bhi, the spirited Sonakshi (Erica Fernandez)'s inability to conceive forces her husband Dev (Shaheer Sheikh) to consider a possible second marriage to please his mother, in Kumkum Bhagya, an independent professor Pragya (Sriti Jha) goes into the abala suhagan mode trying to prove her loyalty towards her rockstar husband Abhi (Shabbir Ahluwalia), even turning wedding planner for his second marriage; in Zindagi Ki Mehek, an overweight Mehek (Samiksha Jaiswal) faces bodyshaming taunts when her matrimonial alliance falls apart, but after she wins a mouthwatering prizemoney at a cookery show she gets engaged to the same groom because of family pressure; in Pardes Mein Hai Mera Dil " professor turned waitress Naina (Drashti Dhami) gets humiliated by her suitor to be billionaire Veer (Laksh Lalwani) and is forced into a marriage of convenience.

In Sasural Simar Ka, Simar (Deepika Kakkar) continues to be taunted by her husband (Dheeraj Dhoopar) and daughter; and in Ishqbaaz, the male lead Shivaay Singh Oberoi (Nakul Mehta) kidnaps the female protagonist's (played by Surbhi Chandana) brother and blackmails her into a contract marriage for a day, manhandling her throughout and dragging her into the shaadi ka mandap, only to dump her the next day for his classy bride Tia who resurfaces.

Anti-women tracks= more audience sympathy
There's a logic behind the anti-women tracks that production houses/channels routinely introduce in their shows. When the viewership numbers are not satisfactory, the heroine's rona-dhona and effort to fight back the powerful hero wins the TRP battle. Mahesh Bhatt, producer of Naamkarann says, "To put up a story, we need to narrate the social problems before focusing on the progressive thought that the show wants to highlight. In our show, Avni (Arsheen Namdaar) questions society's reforms and decides to pick her mother's surname over her father's." Producer Sumeet Mittal shared, "The content we weave for the shows reflects what's happening around us in towns, villages and certain sections residing in the city too. The content on Hindi soaps can't be progressive until our society evolves completely across all sections."

Cry babies spice up the show
Natually the heroine as martyr takes the drama quotient a few notches higher and makes the storyline spicier? Arjun Bijlani, who's playing Raghav in Pardes Mein Hai Mera Dil says, "Every element is inter-linked - to showcase a good point, you have to talk and highlight bad points. Also, everything that is perfect and good becomes boring for audiences to view hence twists, turns and drama is essential - and that's where the regressive side is seen more on daily soaps." Even Samiksha Jaiswal of Mehek Zindagi Ki says, "My character is of an independent young girl who faces all the odds and still comes up successful and follows her passion. For a success story, you need to highlight a girl's hardships too."

For soapmakers, cashing in on the bechari female
protagonist's tears, sorrow and eventual rise from her pain means better TRPs. And for viewers it means some more bowls of popcorn, masala chai and hankies

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/hindi/Bechari-betis-biwis-rona-dhona-rake-in-the-TRPs-for-Hindi-soaps/articleshow/55733927.cms
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Long live daily soaps !!!!!👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rdjha

hello all...after long long time...got back to work so super busy managing home, office and most imp girls 😆


not sure you will read this or not...still

Wishing you a very Happy Birthday 🥳 🥳and Wonderful year ahead 🤗


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Belated greeting Rashmi !!
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How are you all?

Finally Amma departed to her abode in heaven.
May her soul RIP.
Truly a remarkable lady.
Corruption issue aside she was one politician who was truly committed to working towards women empowerment and women and child welfare.
Today I remember Jayalalitha when I see lot of school girls on their bicycles filling up the roads each morning and evening.
She was truly a woman who lived by her own terms.
I still remember how news papers flashed photographs of her when she was assaulted by the rival party members in the TN assembly.
She was a fighter.
Wonder what will happen to TN politics and the party she left behind😕
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On TV front watching Mehek on Zee. Artee! You are right!! It does have an M&B ish feel😆
I hope the channel and the makers treat it like an M&B with a proper begining middle and end and finish it the way M&Bs finish after fixed no of chapters and pages.

JNDSD seems to have become a Whodunnit story😆

Am watching these two shows and I like the fact that they are mildly entertaining and not really engrossing.

Wish some writer would adapt Ken Follett's works to suit Indian audiences and our culture. They would make great shows.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Aditi wish you a very happy birthday and many many happy returns of the day.May God bless you abundantly.😊

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