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Posted: 10 years ago
Urmila
When you come online, can you help me with two ParAv references? I am trying to develop a character sketch in my mind.

I will need the Sanskrit verses and translations with chapter and verse numbers, pretty pleeease😳

1) Where G tells him 'I am you and you are me' (in Kamyaka vana, I think). Can you also get me the stanzas before and after? I want to know what they were talking about, that this came out😆

2) The 'priyataraha' verse and before and after with translations.

THANK YOU!
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Posted: 10 years ago
hi everyone, since many of u are bengalis here, i wanted to ask a question to you girls.
i am a member of indian defence forum, discussion on MB is going on there and as usual the old age topic about drau laughing on dury is being discussed and I'm fighting tooth and nail in panchali's defence.

anyways one of the members claimed that drau laughing is there in the bengali version of MB, can any of you confirm is it true?
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Posted: 10 years ago
So there are forums too where Draupadi bashing is going on!!
How many such other social networking sites n forums are there?

Anyway...Bengali's Kaliprasanna's Mahabharat is very similar to KMG...
So there is no reason to have that comment...Will have to check...

And if they are referring to Kashi Dashi, then I am not sure...That version has mamy many folktales included.

By the way...take Sema n Nidhi there...they know Sanskrit n Sema is Bengali n has read many versions...
They will help u fight... 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
@Indianprincess
Ask for a citation like we do along with a link. That's the way to shut up fantastical claims. 😊

Also, you can point them to the BORI CE which thought it was an interpolation and so was the Sutaputra comment
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Posted: 10 years ago
@Anu di, the first one you wanted has many Krishna stutis just before it (done by Arjun). Do you need that hymn part too? And as for the second one, which 'priyatarah' you are talking about? That one before Jayadrath vadh? Actually 'priyatarah' is a very common word and Krishna used to refer Pandavas as His beloved, His life, soul etc several times.

@Indianprincess, which site is it? Just show me and see what happens 😆 anyway, I'm a Bengali and I have to confess that Kashiram Das's Bengali MB has demeaned Draupadi A LOT 😭 he invented THAT angle, he made Draupadi fight with Hidimbaa and curse Ghato baby and so on 😭
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Posted: 10 years ago
Urmila
Yes, please, if you can about the 'I am you' statement - but just a couple of sentences before and after will do

Jaydrath vadh for the 'priyataraha' statement. Same things pls, before and after
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Posted: 10 years ago
Okay, but give me some time please 😳 I will try to post them together. For pre-Jayadrath vadh part, I will try to post the entire speech of Krishna, hope it will help 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: AnuMP

@Indianprincess

Ask for a citation like we do along with a link. That's the way to shut up fantastical claims. 😊

Also, you can point them to the BORI CE which thought it was an interpolation and so was the Sutaputra comment

the members on that forum are weird actually, i told them that draupadi laughing was a later interpolation or a folklore,.. but they are of the opinion that even folklores are a part of MB and should be taken as truth.😕 and since we don't know what happened 5000 yrs ago, we can assume whatever we want and there is nothing original in the changing world according to them.

when i talked about kmg, BORI CE, they say these versions can't be taken as authentic and are "incomplete" since the authors of these versions themselves never claimed their work as "authentic" or "reliable".😆
i finally gave up.. funny thing is they consider POI type novels, folklores more reliable than kmg or CE.

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Posted: 10 years ago
In that case, the people of the forum are lost cases... 😆
It's no point fighting anymore...


U see I have seen many people on India Forums who usee to dislike Draupadi bcoz they didnt know the truth...
But once they were given citations, they accepted their mistake n stopped bashing Draupadi...
I, myself, had misconceptions which got cleared after coming to this forum...

People who dont understand, even when they are given logical explanations n citations...well they dont need debates...they need medical counselling...This was said to me by a Karnala friend... 😆 n I agree with him completely... 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Urmila11

@Anu di, the first one you wanted has many Krishna stutis just before it (done by Arjun). Do you need that hymn part too? And as for the second one, which 'priyatarah' you are talking about? That one before Jayadrath vadh? Actually 'priyatarah' is a very common word and Krishna used to refer Pandavas as His beloved, His life, soul etc several times.

@Indianprincess, which site is it? Just show me and see what happens 😆 anyway, I'm a Bengali and I have to confess that Kashiram Das's Bengali MB has demeaned Draupadi A LOT 😭 he invented THAT angle, he made Draupadi fight with Hidimbaa and curse Ghato baby and so on 😭

relax sema😆 it is a military defence forum actually, the chaps on that site are related to the army some of them are army men themselves but majority of them are army fans. on a forum like that where there are army personnel one has to behave accordingly.
they are mature and understanding people, the thing is their knowledge of MB is limited to what the general population in our country knows about the epic, i have tried to educate them.. for MB related discussions as a reference i have given the link of MB and MM forum on IF. surprisingly some of them are partially enlightened.
There was a karna fan of that forum who claimed that his hero was a pure sinless ever dharmic soul, i proved him wrong and referred to him about the MM forum thread on karna,.. he was shocked and surprised that karna actually did some of those things.😆

anyways, the site is called "defence forum india" incase u want to visit, u can google it.. and join if u want. the MB discussion is going in the religion and culture thread of the site under the title"karna's grasp of dharma"


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