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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Wisian

How time flies... It is already navami today...

Tomorrow, Vijay Dashami is also (Shirdi-waale) Sai Baba's punyatithi...

This string of autumn festivals is my favourite time... I wish, I could also be in India for the Navratri...


It is Ashtami today...this one had an extra first navratri. I thought...Dussehra falls on Friday?😲

Edit: Never mind...I was referring to the Kashmiri calendar's dates..😊 But my dad was also referring to a similar calendar...it is puzzling and confusing...

But yes, this season of festivals is my favorite time too...and i yearn to be in India at this time...the nice weather, the atmosphere...everything is beautiful...
So your fasts culminate today...they went off well, nahi!😊 Today is my Ashtami's fast too.

I had no idea that tomorrow is Sai Baba's punyatithi... Are you/your family followers of Sai Baba? 😊

Edited by Kwerky - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Wisian


@Veep: Haan, almost every time you mentioned it, you mentioned me in the same breath. 😛

@Suits: I only have it until Season 3... Actually, utney mein hi mann bhar gayaa hai meraa...
There are shows like "Modern Family" or "The Middle" - I can watch an entire season in one day... and I enjoy the show even more than if I were watching the show one episode per week...
With "Suits", it has just worn me down. 😛

@White Collar: Oh... I'm already intrigued. Strangely, I had never even heard of the show (or of Matt) until you mentioned it (him)... 😆


@ Suits: I have just managed to near the end of the first season...as I am interested in watching if the Managing Partner or others in the firm find out about Mike not being a Harvard alumni. In only 8-9 episodes, what struck me as funny is that EVERY SINGLE TIME, they have an epiphany on how to clinch the case based on a sentence someone just spoke...does it continue like this in the other seasons too?😆 But it isn't bad...so I will continue with it.

@White Collar: Hmm...you might not have heard about it maybe because it wasn't wildly popular or wasn't in the news because of any big ticket nominations. It did receive critical acclaim because of the chemistry between the leads and the slightly unconventional story telling. I caught the first season when I was still in India and it premiered on Star World..where it was heavily promoted. And was hooked...as I like crime dramas/thrillers...and it had some intelligent writing and a good ensemble cast/intriguing characters.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Kwerky


It is Ashtami today...this one had an extra first navratri. I thought...Dussehra falls on Friday?😲

Edit: Never mind...I was referring to the Kashmiri calendar's dates..😊 But my dad was also referring to a similar calendar...it is puzzling and confusing...

But yes, this season of festivals is my favorite time too...and i yearn to be in India at this time...the nice weather, the atmosphere...everything is beautiful...
So your fasts culminate today...they went off well, nahi!😊 Today is my Ashtami's fast too.

I had no idea that tomorrow is Sai Baba's punyatithi... Are you/your family followers of Sai Baba? 😊


We had an extra first day, but we have both Ashtami and Navami condensed into one day today... 😆

Arya Samaj is the only thing that my family *really* subscribes to - mostly because it is non-demanding religious practice, and we are extremely secular. I however have been exploratory when it comes to spirituality, and my mother is also rather enthusiastic about learning new things... So, we randomly went to a Sai Baba temple once, felt an enormous grace upon us, and became overcame with devotion. Such are matters of personal faith...

In some ways, it is odd too. Arya Samaj vehemently advises against any belief in miracles. This tenet is also upheld by the Ramakrishna order. Sai Satchritra however is full of stories of the miracles Baba performed in his lifetime. I have read the works of Sw. Vivekanada and tried to adopt the ideal of "yatra jeeva tatra Shiva" in my daily life. I have read the Sai Satchritra and also find that Baba loved man and beast alike... So, as such, I reject all stories of miracles, but certainly accept the core teaching.

Arya Samaj holds that we shouldn't perform idol worship, but since we started saying prayers to Sai Baba, whenever my mother and I do a havan at home, we place Baba's picture before us. In fact, for a while now, my mother has been reciting Ramcharitmanas, and we have even made a tiny shrine in our home - so, we even do our havans in front of all the idols we have placed in that shrine. 😆😆😆 That is sacrilege, nahin? 😛😛
Of course, if we invite the Sunday gathering of Arya Samajis to our home, the priest does the havan in the living room... But in any case, I have a feeling that even most of the regular Arya Samajis don't really take the stricture against idol worship seriously.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Kwerky


@ Suits: I have just managed to near the end of the first season...as I am interested in watching if the Managing Partner or others in the firm find out about Mike not being a Harvard alumni. In only 8-9 episodes, what struck me as funny is that EVERY SINGLE TIME, they have an epiphany on how to clinch the case based on a sentence someone just spoke...does it continue like this in the other seasons too?😆 But it isn't bad...so I will continue with it.

@White Collar: Hmm...you might not have heard about it maybe because it wasn't wildly popular or wasn't in the news because of any big ticket nominations. It did receive critical acclaim because of the chemistry between the leads and the slightly unconventional story telling. I caught the first season when I was still in India and it premiered on Star World..where it was heavily promoted. And was hooked...as I like crime dramas/thrillers...and it had some intelligent writing and a good ensemble cast/intriguing characters.


@Suits: It is certainly a very nice show. I just need to take a break from it.
There will be a lot of drama surrounding Mike's fraud. And they will continue having such epiphanies time and time again. 😆
I liked the episode in which Mike is sent to housing court (or whatever)... and for instance, I'd have enjoyed the show a lot had it shown how Mike grows as a lawyer. 😆😆
You know, there is a rather controversial news channel called "Russia Today". One day, I randomly just began watching a show on it in which novice journalists were being trained. And this novice journalist was so cute - he was sent to an interview and even though it was in Russian (so I had to rely on subtitles), he was beginning all his questions with "Please tell me, why/how/where..." He did that for the entire 30 minute interview. Every question. 😆😆😆
Even his producer made the remark that professional journalists don't do that. 😆😆

@White collar: I can't wait to get to it. 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Wisian


We had an extra first day, but we have both Ashtami and Navami condensed into one day today... 😆

Arya Samaj is the only thing that my family *really* subscribes to - mostly because it is non-demanding religious practice, and we are extremely secular. I however have been exploratory when it comes to spirituality, and my mother is also rather enthusiastic about learning new things... So, we randomly went to a Sai Baba temple once, felt an enormous grace upon us, and became overcame with devotion. Such are matters of personal faith...

In some ways, it is odd too. Arya Samaj vehemently advises against any belief in miracles. This tenet is also upheld by the Ramakrishna order. Sai Satchritra however is full of stories of the miracles Baba performed in his lifetime. I have read the works of Sw. Vivekanada and tried to adopt the ideal of "yatra jeeva tatra Shiva" in my daily life. I have read the Sai Satchritra and also find that Baba loved man and beast alike... So, as such, I reject all stories of miracles, but certainly accept the core teaching.

Arya Samaj holds that we shouldn't perform idol worship, but since we started saying prayers to Sai Baba, whenever my mother and I do a havan at home, we place Baba's picture before us. In fact, for a while now, my mother has been reciting Ramcharitmanas, and we have even made a tiny shrine in our home - so, we even do our havans in front of all the idols we have placed in that shrine. 😆😆😆 That is sacrilege, nahin? 😛😛
Of course, if we invite the Sunday gathering of Arya Samajis to our home, the priest does the havan in the living room... But in any case, I have a feeling that even most of the regular Arya Samajis don't really take the stricture against idol worship seriously.


Wisu, you never fail to surprise me. Seriously! I am always bowled over by your erudition, specially when you talk about spirituality and religion. 😊 My God, you are THE complete package, haan! I have to admit..had I been a guy, I would have pursued you relentlessly...whether you were in India or saat-samundar paar. 😆

Achcha..haan...today is Ashtami-Navmi rolled into one. So did you make something special for navmi/completion of your fasts?

It is interesting (and inspiring) to read about how your mother and you have explored and adopted other practices in Hinduism besides Arya Samaj. 😊 And as far as sacrilege goes, it might be labeled that by the very orthodox but I believe in flexibility and whatever gives the mind peace or resonates with you spiritually...whether within the purview of your own religion or outside. I don't necessarily believe in strict customs or rituals or miracles or various manifestations of God...I am more drawn towards a supreme soul thought...and just think that one should work towards good karma.

@bold: Correct! I have seen that too amongst a couple of my friends who are from the Arya Samaj. I think in today's world in every religion you will find people who do step out of the basic restrictions imposed by their faith. A lot of Jain kids in our generation consume potatoes and onions...though it is restricted for them.

@Sai Baba: My mother-in-law is an ardent follower of Sai Baba. And ardent is putting it mildly.😊She breathes, lives Baba. There are numerous pictures and idols, big and small, of him around our house in Delhi. Whenever she goes out on a trip, she carries in her handbag a huge volume of Sai Satcharitra (which is in tatters because it is decades old..and has been carried everywhere..and she sleeps with it at her bedside). And whenever we visit Delhi, we have to visit the nearest Sai Baba temple on the day before we return to SG. As you said, such are matters of personal faith...😊

Actually, there is an interesting story here that I just recalled. One of my mom's patients gifted her a calendar with a beautiful picture of Sai Baba...you know those one-sheet poster calendars? We never had a picture of Baba before that at our place (because my parents weren't his followers) and my parents put that calendar up in our pooja room. Now... my Mom tells me that the same evening, the door bell rang and she went up to the gate of our house and there was this elderly sadhu standing there...you would know, this is a common occurrence back home...sadhus or people dressed up as sadhus come asking for money/alms etc. This man had a striking resemblance to how Sai Baba is depicted in pictures...same beard, the cloth tied around his head in a similar fashion etc. (and let me tell you, my mother never exaggerates...she is a woman of few words...). So she asked him what he wanted..and this man asked her to donate whatever she wanted to. Though my parents never give in to demands like these, maybe it was his appearance or something else...which prompted my mother to give him some food/fruits. As she was doing so, he asked her not to worry about anything and told her - "your daughter will get married soon...don't worry...and she will get married in Delhi itself...tumhein pata bhi nahi chalega aur sab apney aap ho jaayega..." ...which suitably surprised her because she never mentioned anything about me or my marriage to him. Now this is the time when my parents had been trying to fix a match for me for quite some time...they were considering NRIs...I was unwilling...stalemate...parents and their anxiousness...shaadi kab hogi...kaise hogi... you get the idea?😆 Well, she let it go...never mentioned about this to anyone at that time. To cut a long story short, I was married 3 months down the line (and no, it wasn't an arranged marriage 😆😆...that's another story). So when both set of parents met and everything was finalized and my mother came to know of my mom-in-law's devotion towards Sai Baba...that is when she told us all about her experience with that sadhu.

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Posted: 9 years ago
All this talk about religion brings me to the question...have you ever caught any mythological shows on TV in the recent past? As I was writing the previous post, I saw the promo for "Siya Ke Raam" on Star Plus. The scale seems grand and unlike anything else on Indian television.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Wisian


Actually, I am usually very organized... I am often gathering things to take back home all the time, so when the time to return comes, I am never rushed. Last year, I had broken ribs and was in so much pain for a whole month before my return that I didn't have time to do much shopping just before my departure, but I still took enough gifts for everyone when I returned (because I had already gathered something for almost everyone through the previous months)...
You see, it is rather common for people living here to cross the border into France or Italy to find good bargains from time to time. And every time I go on my shopping excursions, I'm often buying stuff not just for myself but also for family, so when the time comes to return, I have enough already...
This year, I realize that I've been under so much stress that I've not gone shopping enough. 😆😆

So, you like Belgian pralines. I'm kinda surprised that you do. Sometimes, it is hard to find the ones which don't contain egg or some amount of alcohol. It took me quite a while to find chocolates (acceptable for some of my austere-diet-following family). I usually buy the chocolates from this place:
http://www.laederach.com/ch-en.html

The ones I like the most are:
http://www.laederach.com/ch-en/assortment/detail/product/mixed_fruit--08753.html
and
http://www.laederach.com/ch-en/assortment/detail/product/blackberry--08715.html

I have a friend who is a hobby chocolatier... She insists that it is easy to make them at home, even once invited me over to teach me how to temper chocolates, but it was such a messy process, I never had the inclination to try it out myself...


Picking up gifts on your shopping excursions through the year is a nice idea!😊 @bold: 😆😆 But this year you didn't manage enough shopping trips...

Actually, a couple of my friends lived in Amsterdam and they used to get pralines from Neuhaus for me on their trips back home...but they used to check the ingredients for me. Anyways, till a few years back, I did have cakes\chocolates which contained eggs...it's only in the last couple of years that I have completely stopped consuming eggs in any form. In fact, I have been contemplating going vegan for some time now...have been twirling with the idea...

Ohh...those chocolates from Laederach look decadent.😳 Dark chocolate is my ultimate favorite...I don't really like milk/white chocolate that much now...
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Kwerky


Wisu, you never fail to surprise me. Seriously! I am always bowled over by your erudition, specially when you talk about spirituality and religion. 😊 My God, you are THE complete package, haan! I have to admit..had I been a guy, I would have pursued you relentlessly...whether you were in India or saat-samundar paar. 😆

Achcha..haan...today is Ashtami-Navmi rolled into one. So did you make something special for navmi/completion of your fasts?

It is interesting (and inspiring) to read about how your mother and you have explored and adopted other practices in Hinduism besides Arya Samaj. 😊 And as far as sacrilege goes, it might be labeled that by the very orthodox but I believe in flexibility and whatever gives the mind peace or resonates with you spiritually...whether within the purview of your own religion or outside. I don't necessarily believe in strict customs or rituals or miracles or various manifestations of God...I am more drawn towards a supreme soul thought...and just think that one should work towards good karma.

@bold: Correct! I have seen that too amongst a couple of my friends who are from the Arya Samaj. I think in today's world in every religion you will find people who do step out of the basic restrictions imposed by their faith. A lot of Jain kids in our generation consume potatoes and onions...though it is restricted for them.

@Sai Baba: My mother-in-law is an ardent follower of Sai Baba. And ardent is putting it mildly.😊She breathes, lives Baba. There are numerous pictures and idols, big and small, of him around our house in Delhi. Whenever she goes out on a trip, she carries in her handbag a huge volume of Sai Satcharitra (which is in tatters because it is decades old..and has been carried everywhere..and she sleeps with it at her bedside). And whenever we visit Delhi, we have to visit the nearest Sai Baba temple on the day before we return to SG. As you said, such are matters of personal faith...😊

Actually, there is an interesting story here that I just recalled. One of my mom's patients gifted her a calendar with a beautiful picture of Sai Baba...you know those one-sheet poster calendars? We never had a picture of Baba before that at our place (because my parents weren't his followers) and my parents put that calendar up in our pooja room. Now... my Mom tells me that the same evening, the door bell rang and she went up to the gate of our house and there was this elderly sadhu standing there...you would know, this is a common occurrence back home...sadhus or people dressed up as sadhus come asking for money/alms etc. This man had a striking resemblance to how Sai Baba is depicted in pictures...same beard, the cloth tied around his head in a similar fashion etc. (and let me tell you, my mother never exaggerates...she is a woman of few words...). So she asked him what he wanted..and this man asked her to donate whatever she wanted to. Though my parents never give in to demands like these, maybe it was his appearance or something else...which prompted my mother to give him some food/fruits. As she was doing so, he asked her not to worry about anything and told her - "your daughter will get married soon...don't worry...and she will get married in Delhi itself...tumhein pata bhi nahi chalega aur sab apney aap ho jaayega..." ...which suitably surprised her because she never mentioned anything about me or my marriage to him. Now this is the time when my parents had been trying to fix a match for me for quite some time...they were considering NRIs...I was unwilling...stalemate...parents and their anxiousness...shaadi kab hogi...kaise hogi... you get the idea?😆 Well, she let it go...never mentioned about this to anyone at that time. To cut a long story short, I was married 3 months down the line (and no, it wasn't an arranged marriage 😆😆...that's another story). So when both set of parents met and everything was finalized and my mother came to know of my mom-in-law's devotion towards Sai Baba...that is when she told us all about her experience with that sadhu.


@Erudition: ☺️ ☺️ ☺️
In everyday life, I think I am problematic. I can be extremely intolerant towards intolerant people; and even though I have taught myself to hold my tongue, my face betrays my thoughts. If I have a low opinion of someone, it shows on my face - so, I guess, I drive away the guys (even when I am completely silent).
Now-a-days, so close to returning home, I have purged all the negative emotions related to being single... of that misery, I will only concern myself after returning from vacation. 😆 😆

@Ashtami-navami: Nahin, I'd have made halwa, but I ran out of ghee (I don't use oil for maing halwa). There wasn't enough ghee to even do an aarti last night, so I did the aarti with camphor instead. [So much for being an Arya Samaji. 😛]
What did you make? Kheer, halwa, puri??

@Sai Baba: You have an interesting story there. I can believe that Baba does manifest himself like this from time to time...
I too got inspired to go to a Sai Baba temple in a similar way. I was in my first year, kinda unhappy with the pace of life - we had hardships at home, and I was emotionally distressed - when one afternoon, I was returning home in a DTC bus and was sitting on the long seat that they had at the back of the bus.
I should tell you two other things that are essential to fully appreciate this story:
1. I am almost never parted with my money. I spend it very judiciously...
2. I have the puritan attitude that Arya Samaj extols. So, I spent quite a lot of time time reading the puranic literature, and even though I stretched the limits of personal faith to include all the Hindu Gods, I never accepted Gods or entities that are not recognized in the scriptures. For instance, the scriptures make no mention of a Santoshi Maa. She is only the creation of the film industry, so even though I would recite Durga Saptashati sometimes, I'd scoff when the priest in the neighbourhood temple would do an arati of a filmy goddess. It was the same with Sai Baba - his pictures can be found all over Delhi; but I'd see them and sanctimoniously decide that that does not constitute pure hinduism.
So, this afternoon when I was sitting on the back seat of the bus, lost in thought... quite abruptly a sadhu leaped into the slowly moving bus, took sometime to adjust his footing, looked at me (as I was sitting on the seat nearest to the door), and said to me: "Sai baba ke mandir mein jaao, sab theek ho jaayega". I don't know what I was thinking, or what came over me at that time, I had a coin in my hand - and I gave it to him. That was his dakshina. He got off the bus almost immediately after that.
Some days later, a Sai Baba temple opened up in our neighbourhood. I went there with my mother. They were singing the arati in Marathi, and it sounded very beautiful. Whilst in the temple - as the priest waved the aarti-paatra before Baba, I became overcome with emotions (my eyes teared up, and my voice choked), and in that instant, I became devoted to Baba.
There is always a voice (distinct from you) that speaks to you - we can call it the conscience. I notice that when I visit this temple (every time I go back home), my conscience speaks in a different voice (and by that I don't mean the physical characteristics of the voice, I mean simply that the amount of compassion and kindness in the voice is w-a-y more than usual)...
From your story, it would mean that your wedding has Baba's blessings. That is so nice. 🤗 🤗
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Kwerky


Picking up gifts on your shopping excursions through the year is a nice idea!😊 @bold: 😆😆 But this year you didn't manage enough shopping trips...

Actually, a couple of my friends lived in Amsterdam and they used to get pralines from Neuhaus for me on their trips back home...but they used to check the ingredients for me. Anyways, till a few years back, I did have cakes\chocolates which contained eggs...it's only in the last couple of years that I have completely stopped consuming eggs in any form. In fact, I have been contemplating going vegan for some time now...have been twirling with the idea...

Ohh...those chocolates from Laederach look decadent.😳 Dark chocolate is my ultimate favorite...I don't really like milk/white chocolate that much now...


@Vegan: Seriously? I have thought of that, but it would require so much adjustment, I'm ot even sure that I can pull it off...
I have not eaten eggs by themselves, but I will have to re-write almost all my recipes for baking if I were to not use eggs at all - so, in cakes and cookies, I still continue using eggs. But milk and cheese, and ghee (oh, ghee! How will you make anything without ghee?!)...

@White chocolate: Yep, I am on the same page as you; I've never quite liked the white chocolates they sell at the supermarkets, but I once had the white chocolate with the nuts at laederach - and it was amazing. By far the best chocolate that I have ever eaten (including the most decadent of the dark chocolates)... 😳😳

What are the usual gifts that one buys when returning home from SG?

EDIT: spelling, grammar... Gosh! I can't believe how many mistakes I'm making in every post. 😳😳
Edited by Wisian - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Kwerky

All this talk about religion brings me to the question...have you ever caught any mythological shows on TV in the recent past? As I was writing the previous post, I saw the promo for "Siya Ke Raam" on Star Plus. The scale seems grand and unlike anything else on Indian television.


Accha? Perhaps then, I will check it out... But I think, most mythological serials that I have watched (other than Ramayan and Mahabharat) were just trashy. They have no sense of context, and they editorialize too much.
I'd prefer if the show were to follow one - JUST ONE - scripture scrupulously. Like, I was watching a show on Ganesh ji many-many years, and even though it started off with the story of Ganesh ji's birth, after only a few episodes, the show had meandered into ALL mythology. When they started covering the matsya avatar and samudra manthan, I decided to skip that show...

Mythology seems to be ever-evolving...
Have you ever been to Kurukshetra? I went there with my grandmother when I was still a student. We went there because my grandmother wanted to take a dip in the sarovar on the day of an eclipse; but then we went on to visit the other temples in the city.
They had a Brahma temple. "Yeh Brahma ji ka janma-sthaan hai," the priest told us.
Me: Achha? Yeh janma sthaan hai? Brahma ji ne srishti-srijan karaa, toh phir iss sthaan ka srijan kisney karaa?
The priest only just glared back at me.

They had a Mahakali temples - and the priest helpfully told us, "Yahaan par Krishna Bhagwaan ka mundan huaa tha"?
Me: Accha? Krishna Bhagwaan, Mathura-Vrindaavan se yahaan aaye they mundan karwaaney?? That is so unpractical, nahin?
The priest had lost interest in us by then.

There was a tree under the shade of which bhagwaan Krishna gave the Gita-updesh to Arjuna. That tree is supposed to be thousands of years old.
I don't think that that tree was even 20 years old.
So, when the priest came to tell us of the tree's glorious fortune, I wanted to ask him a few questions, but my grandmother shushed me...

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