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Posted: 10 years ago
Happy bday Ecri. How was your not- so - surprise birthday out yesterday ?
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: severus1

Anyone up for a MB discussion again.

Does anyone feel that polyandry was exploitative in case of Draupadi?

I mean she was forced to accept 5 husbands instead of just Arjun, okay not forced but cajoled.
And then she had to spend 1 year with each in turn and everyday her virginity was restored.

But the other Pandavas who all had 3-4 wives chose when they wanted to spend time with them.

Mahabharata is a complex subject.
Draupadi's life is very controversial. Firstly her birth was not normal. Second she did ask for 5 husbands although unknowingly.

Thirdly, her father's utmost desire to kill Drona created her along with her brothers.

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: severus1

Anyone up for a MB discussion again.

Does anyone feel that polyandry was exploitative in case of Draupadi?

I mean she was forced to accept 5 husbands instead of just Arjun, okay not forced but cajoled.
And then she had to spend 1 year with each in turn and everyday her virginity was restored.

But the other Pandavas who all had 3-4 wives chose when they wanted to spend time with them.

Actually it was Kunti who was behind this game, I feel. She could have taken her words back, but NOOO! 🤢
@bold - that is where it hurts me. She was asked to spend 1 year with each in a pattern. But they could live with any of their wives!😡
Ploygamy is worse than ployandary!🤢
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Posted: 10 years ago
Not really Angela. Kunti saved her children.
Raja Dhrupad wanted a son to kill Drona. Thus, Yagna was important.

But No one will dare to go against Hastinapur provided it was protected by Bhisma who was literally invincible.

Thus, Shikandi was born

And last of it was Draupad who was suppose to create rift in the Kuru vansh with her beauty. Kunti in her subconcious mind saved her children. Had she not done it the Pandavas might have fought among themselves over this beautiful woman.

Also, Draupadi asked for it.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Angela_Grokes

Actually it was Kunti who was behind this game, I feel. She could have taken her words back, but NOOO! 🤢
@bold - that is where it hurts me. She was asked to spend 1 year with each in a pattern. But they could live with any of their wives!😡
Ploygamy is worse than ployandary!🤢


Yeah what's this all about that words once spoken can't be taken back. Even Yudi did lie on the battlefield. Kunti *smh

Exactly. When the Pandavas were walking to heaven it was said that only Yudi could reach along with a dog while the others stumbled on the way. Draupadi stumbled because she loved Arjun the most among the brothers.

Yeah, but in polygamy the man chooses his wives and how much time he wants to spend with each while in polyandry the woman is supposed to be impartial and devoid of feelings.

And wasn't it said that having 1 common wife made them into 1 strong family- the pandavas. Otherwise they couldn't put up a strong enough front.

Some tribes in HP practise polyandry so that the property doesn't get divided.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: dey.bh

Not really Angela. Kunti saved her children.

Raja Dhrupad wanted a son to kill Drona. Thus, Yagna was important.

But No one will dare to go against Hastinapur provided it was protected by Bhisma who was literally invincible.

Thus, Shikandi was born

And last of it was Draupad who was suppose to create rift in the Kuru vansh with her beauty. Kunti in her subconcious mind saved her children. Had she not done it the Pandavas might have fought among themselves over this beautiful woman.

Also, Draupadi asked for it.

Yes, that is why I said she did not her words back. Kunti knew that it was Draupadi's beauty which appealed to all her sons. But I actually don't like the fact. Even if she would have caused a rift between them, was it bigger than a woman's dignity. And then at the end, she was blamed for Kurukshetra war. I ask why?
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: dey.bh

Not really Angela. Kunti saved her children.

Raja Dhrupad wanted a son to kill Drona. Thus, Yagna was important.

But No one will dare to go against Hastinapur provided it was protected by Bhisma who was literally invincible.

Thus, Shikandi was born

And last of it was Draupad who was suppose to create rift in the Kuru vansh with her beauty. Kunti in her subconcious mind saved her children. Had she not done it the Pandavas might have fought among themselves over this beautiful woman.

Also, Draupadi asked for it.


Yes but that;s only when we look at the bigger picture. In hindsight we know that she unknowingly asked for 5 husbands or whatever.

Makes me wonder if MB did indeed happen or it was a huge mythological construct to explain the way karma works . But then there is the archaeological evidence of Kurukshetra.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Angela_Grokes

Yes, that is why I said she did not her words back. Kunti knew that it was Draupadi's beauty which appealed to all her sons. But I actually don't like the fact. Even if she would have caused a rift between them, was it bigger than a woman's dignity. And then at the end, she was blamed for Kurukshetra war. I ask why?

Draupadi was blamed because she insulted Duryodhan. . Besides, it was Draupadi who was blessed to have 5 husbands. Kunti was as they say' nimit matra' whose words remain as the final verdict. Just like Rama was to have the vanvas as per the curse but people still blame Manthara and Kaikeyi for that.
people also blame Kunti for the whole mess. Had she not lied about Karna the brothers would not hve killed him.

Personally I blamed Dritarastra for the whole mess. Mahabhrata actually teaches us the importance of parents in our lives. Look what Kunti did to Karna, what Dritarastra did to Duryodhan and what Dhrupad did to Draupadi.



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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: severus1


Yes but that;s only when we look at the bigger picture. In hindsight we know that she unknowingly asked for 5 husbands or whatever.

Makes me wonder if MB did indeed happen or it was a huge mythological construct to explain the way karma works . But then there is the archaeological evidence of Kurukshetra.

Even of MB didn't actually happen, I don't mind it! I am happy that it teaches us something strong. All the things in the story are relevant to this day.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Now that is debatable.
In fact according to the scholars if MB is only a literary piece than the poet must have been a genius to have created so many inter- related stories .

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