**INCOGNITO CRITICS** #52 ~M.O.M PG 6

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COOKIE AND CHURAN! 🤣

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Well, here it goes in the immortal words of Kenan and Kel. Note: IF is being crappy with me because I wanted to embed some images, and it is not letting me.😭

Jesus Camp

Sparked by a brief conversation, I had with Neetz the other day, I decided to watch the documentary Jesus Camp. This documentary concerns the zeal in Evangelical Christians with regards to indoctrinating their youth with their set of ideals by sending them off to camps. One quote that struck me quite personally in this documentary was the following.

"India is the most religious country in the world. Sweden is the most irreligious country in the world. We are a country of Indians ruled by Swedes."

That is the core of their belief system, and to accomplish their goals to help form the minds of the youth, they believe they must control what they see, hear, and learn. So instead of a pleasant summer camp experience, it is more of an emotionally charged stay that force feeds them lots and lots of their ideas.

Within it, one could ask what is wrong with this after all? Why should other citizens be concerned with what parents decide is best to teach their children? Isn't it their right after all to pass on certain beliefs such as religion to their children if they believe it will form their moral character? Of course that is their right as it should be, but then what happens if this spills into the political, which it does.

Despite America's so-called ideal of separation of church and state, it hardly is the way it is. For example the documentary tells of how a Colorado Springs minister in the film, Ted Haggard, held Monday weekly meetings with the former President George W. Bush to "advise" him. Or that these children were made to cry together and told that they must repent for being hypocrites. An emotional attachment to God was being formed as a group of them would go to the Capital with red tape on their mouths stating life in black letters.

This is where it gets dangerous. When interest groups prepare judicial nominees, and believe that they must satisfy a core of their beliefs and be good as deemed by their religious beliefs rather than of whether they will be a fair judge with intellectual acumen for the job.

It left me troubled all over again seeing how kids are being made to talk in tongues, and how the youth minister Becky says that we need to make our kids more like those kids in Palestine that are willing to die for God. And that she wants to compete with that, and that they need some of that over here. Is that really something to aim for? Because she says, "Hello, we're the ones with the truth." It left me sighing, but then that is what it is. People thinking that we are better than one another. And that is so troubling.

The fact that the homeschooled child with the pony tail, Levi, is told by his mother that they are making a big deal of global warming. He says they are with the reply that the temperature has only gotten "0.6 degrees Fahrenheit higher each year" recently "so it really isn't a big deal", and it won't really affect us much anyway left me quite shocked. But then I realize it is all about control, and as the radio host says in the documentary that all of these people look like your neighbors and not like politicos, but anything that may challenge their beliefs will make them more threatened. They constitute 25% of the American population and are numbered to be about 80 million in population.

Politicization of scientific issues may seem wrong, but it has become a significant point of contention in many places. For example the documentary mentions the fact that Kansas requires students to learn intelligent design along with evolution in class in public schools. So schools are willfully going along to make parents happy. The fact that Levi is shown laughing at the claim in the video that we came from a boom i.e. The Big Bang and that the world is 6,000 years old or that a pastor claims that evangelism succeeds because it tells kid that God loves them whereas elsewhere the kids get the message they are animals with the idea of natural selection. As a biology student, I wonder why science must be made the enemy and why it can't coexist with faith. Yes, faith is more about matters of the heart, but why can't that be separate from the ideas of skepticism and inquiry in accordance to science?

Shocking me the most was the outright advocacy of political leaders. Where the kids were sitting in their pew, a cut out of George W. Bush was brought out. And they were told to speak in tongues and chant their blessings for him. To the point that they tell him to bring God back into government. When they all smash cups afterward to claim the need for a righteous government to the point of multiple children in absolute tremble crying mode made me absolutely worried for them. What is the next generation going to be like? Will they be so close minded to other people's viewpoints due to all of the advocacy for one point of view that they heard their whole lives?

And that is in an essence what it is all about to bring it all home, adults trying to mint a legacy for tomorrow. After all as the youth pastor, Becky says, "1/3rd of 6.7 million people in this world are under 15." So she reasons that because they are so open to the message, they are the best to talk to in terms of believing and not questioning.

I would definitely recommend this documentary for a poking, insightful, and sometimes disturbing view of the intersection of politics and religion in the United States. The documentary is available online on Youtube if anyone is interested in watching. And I would definitely recommend it because it is quite a gripping watch and left a profound impact on my psyche and the way I thought about the whole issue itself.

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Nice MOM guys!

Will check out Valkyrie as soon as I get my act together! Ooh 500 days of Summer looks good, when is it gonna be out?

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I'm reserving this post for a detailed appreciation of Nimmi's M.O.M 😆

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Awesome post, dude. I completely agree, especially with the later half of your post.

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@ Nimmi: Same problem. That error message was in my message box! So I hit the Post button ASAP! :)

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At least you can still submit messages.. my message box disappears randomly..

This also happens to me too. Not cool I-F, not cool at all.😡

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