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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Historylover

@ Jayati

first of all welcome to the forum friend...good to have u here...but i m not going to vote in this poll...i have a strong reason for that...i have stopped watching this show...and i'll never watch it again...the way they distorted history...i cant digest it anymore...cant afford to watch Alexander the great in India for 6 years...alex in india for this long is a question mark on our existence as an Indian...if alex wud have stayed in India for 6 years...then i must have been writing this post in greek language😆 ..so coz i dont watch it anymore ...who so ever comes and goes..it doesnt matters to me...now i dont even have any probs wid mrignayani..they can show her as bindusar's mother too...thumbs up from my side...or they can add thousand fake/true stories and have their creative liberty to any extent🤢

@history lover i didn't also vote here. i can't even digest alex being in india for 6 yrs.. alex remained in India only for 18 months& CGM was really a v.young. and acc. 2 history books & sum oder sources CGM bcame king at the age of 20yrs after disposing dhananand & dhananand went 2 the forests after getting defeated by CGM. i can still digest mrignayani ashis luv interest but not the mother of bindusara!!

but in Jain txts its mentioned that CGM faced alex & he became king at the age of 25 yrs.!!
and abt alex he cudn't'd remained in India bcoz his army & he himself was scared of great Maghadhan army which contains war elephants & so made an excuse of homesickness of his army!!and this info is even posted by sum1 here in this forum!!

@ Sara
i totally agree with u dear...makers don't need to get worried if audience is ready to watch true history...i watched a show on DD years ago...it was based on nawab siraj-ud- daula...and the makers executed the history very well there..they showed his first wife and second wife...they showed him as the way he was..a careless youth at initial stage...then he slowly realized his love for the country...how he become a patriot etc etc...i mean they never tried to show him as a superhero like cgm and chanakya are being shown..they sticked to reality...imagine has portrayed that somehow directly or indirectly chanakya was the reason of alex's death...i find it next to impossible...may be i m wrong coz i dont know whats going on in the show...but still by wu i came to know abt this... even historical characters were human beings...they have their own strength and weaknesses ...acc. to me alex and cgm never shared envy on personal grounds...but here they are showing alexander next to dhananand ..just because the show is based on cgm and he is the hero of the show...they have to show him bigger and better than anything...that too at the wrong time...coz acc to real history..when alex was in India...cgm was a teenager...he never had such a big army at that time...its after alex went back..cgm and chanakya made an army of well trained tribal people...and they also took porus's help to fight against dhannu...that's a different story anyway😉

Note: I mean no offense to any historical characters that i've mentioned...just shared my views coz i think exaggeration of anything more than required can be injurious😊

i also agree on this point. why they only show one wife of the kings wen there were so many! we all know that at that time kings do need such alliances.and i'd seen Chanyakya by Chanderprakash Dwivedi on DD1 where true history was shown but that show stopped in mid. don't know the reason as we were v.young may b in 8th or 9th class!!
and abt super human powers they r showing then i don't think its an exaggaration bcoz in history its confirmed that CGM indeed v. brave & humane in nature & chanyakya is even 2day commands the respect all over the world. and he was considered more intelligent than Machivilian. His arthashastra is still a refernce book in many countries 4 politics & economics!!and sum1'd in this forum told that even in sum foreign univ. his polity & economics points r refered & taught!
and u r rite that they did take puru's help in fighting against dhananand!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi tiny dear😊
no no no dear...i dont mean that cgm and chanakya were not brave and intelligent...i personally love and respect them a lot...but the way they are showing that cgm created an army and alexander took aback coz him...i m finding it so awkward...i mean he is alexander the great...he conquered the whole at such a small age...a warrior...i wud have agreed if they cud have shown him feared of porus's elephants..coz they were new to greeks...he might have taken aback at that time...but they are showing all this with cgm just because he is the hero of the show...i just expect the to show historical characters with right persona...but i have stopped expecting anything from the makers...
apart from that i cant imagine that chanakya cud be the reason of alex's death...he cant poison someone like this...directly or indirectly...its totally like a question mark on our greatest economist isnt it?...i m fed of the makers the way they are portraying historical characters kisi ko bada dikhane ke liye dusre ko chota dikhana...i think woh galat hai..nothing else😊

aur woh mrignayani as bindusar's mother...aise hi bol diya tha maine..just 4 fun...imagine can do anything...nothing is impossible for them😆
Edited by Historylover - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Historylover

Hi tiny dear😊

no no no dear...i dont mean that cgm and chanakya were not brave and intelligent...i personally love and respect them a lot...but the way they are showing that cgm created an army and alexander took aback coz him...i m finding it so awkward...i mean he is alexander the great...he conquered the whole at such a small age...a warrior...i wud have agreed if they cud have shown him feared of porus's elephants..coz they were new to greeks...he might have taken aback at that time...but they are showing all this with cgm just because he is the hero of the show...i just expect the to show historical characters with right persona...but i have stopped expecting anything from the makers...
apart from that i cant imagine that chanakya cud be the reason of alex's death...he cant poison someone like this...directly or indirectly...its totally like a question mark on our greatest economist isnt it?...i m fed of the makers the way they are portraying historical characters kisi ko bada dikhane ke liye dusre ko chota dikhana...i think woh galat hai..nothing else😊

aur woh mrignayani as bindusar's mother...aise hi bol diya tha maine..just 4 fun...imagine can do anything...nothing is impossible for them😆

i know that u didn't mean it but i was only saying that sum historical sources r of the opinion that chanyakya did sumthing 2 alex's army may b indirectly. and abt doing such things wasn't uncommon 4 chanyakya esply 2 enemies of India. he acted like Lord Krishna'd acted in the Mahabharat bcoz Krishna also encouraged Pandavas 4 treachery in the war against Kauravas!!
and though Alex has conquered the whole world but not India. he cudn't even cross beas river bcoz of fear of Maghadan army's war elephants. and sum say that if he'd 4warded 2wards east then he might'd defeated & it wud'd been his insult & he didn't want that.and even sum ppl say that bcoz of alex's fear sum of his soldiers ran away 2wards Himalayas. i find sum truth in it.bcoz in my state (HP) there r decendants of those greek soldiers living in the malana village of Kulu distt. and they don't marry outside their village not even wid ppl from Kulu & himachal leave alone outside HP. and this village is considered a s oldest democracy in the world. they've their own parliament system & their chief diety is God Jamlu(rishi Jamadgni).and now even world historians r also raising sum quesns abt alex conquering & his sexuality. sum even say that he was a gay!!😆
but i do agree that 2 show sum1 great theres no need 2 degrade oders!!! and i also agree that they can even show mrignayani as bindusar's mother !! sagars r expert in it!!😆
Edited by tiny15 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Tiny & HistoryLover: 👏

exactly my words. i couldn't put the points here due to some reasons but what ever u said is absolutely true. i have gone through many articles just to confirm how far is the story correct to the extent and i find many bloopers in the story. 😒

Alex wasn't there in India for long time. he wasn;t poisoned by chanakya. he returned just b'coz of his soldiers who started revolt. later he was dead due to malaria in babylon. (must confirm this by googling again) 😛

yes CG was a very young boy and there was no encounter of him with Alex. he joined the alex army to understand their stratagies of war and also abt the adminstration. he became a king at the age of 20yrs after he defeated Dhananand.

he was supported by porus and also some king from north don;t remember from where he is but he is named Parvataka or something like that he too almost supported CG till last but it seems he had a deal with them for 50:50 share in the kingdom and he is of bad deeds. his support was taken just b'coz he is very powerful enough to face Dhananand.

later his enemies killed him or something happened to him b'coz he became a traitor (didn't exactly remember the story of it) and he was very selfish. after his death amatya rakshas supported the king's son Malayketu but the later was very badly defeated in the war. all this happended after the defeat of D.

nothing much was found abt his perosnal life i.e married life but dhurdhara was his main queen and their son is bindusara. 😊

later selucus fought with him and was defeated by CG and in turn he (Selu) got his daughter married to CG. it is just before his death some years before. i think he died at a age of 42yrs or so.

still trying to find much information i can. i found a archive book of CG full text so must go a lot in it. 😊

Swetha


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: vss08

@Tiny & HistoryLover: 👏


exactly my words. i couldn't put the points here due to some reasons but what ever u said is absolutely true. i have gone through many articles just to confirm how far is the story correct to the extent and i find many bloopers in the story. 😒

Alex wasn't there in India for long time. he wasn;t poisoned by chanakya. he returned just b'coz of his soldiers who started revolt. later he was dead due to malaria in babylon. (must confirm this by googling again) 😛

yes CG was a very young boy and there was no encounter of him with Alex. he joined the alex army to understand their stratagies of war and also abt the adminstration. he became a king at the age of 20yrs after he defeated Dhananand.

he was supported by porus and also some king from north don;t remember from where he is but he is named Parvataka or something like that he too almost supported CG till last but it seems he had a deal with them for 50:50 share in the kingdom and he is of bad deeds. his support was taken just b'coz he is very powerful enough to face Dhananand.

later his enemies killed him or something happened to him b'coz he became a traitor (didn't exactly remember the story of it) and he was very selfish. after his death amatya rakshas supported the king's son Malayketu but the later was very badly defeated in the war. all this happended after the defeat of D.

nothing much was found abt his perosnal life i.e married life but dhurdhara was his main queen and their son is bindusara. 😊

later selucus fought with him and was defeated by CG and in turn he (Selu) got his daughter married to CG. it is just before his death some years before. i think he died at a age of 42yrs or so.

still trying to find much information i can. i found a archive book of CG full text so must go a lot in it. 😊

Swetha


!bold 1 Parvataka was porus or puru !!porus was the name given 2 him by greeks like they'd given CGM name Sandrocottos or Androcottus !!
andi read in the history book that puru neevr betrayed CGM!!
and CGM died at the age of 42yrs. by starvation according 2 Jain tradition bcoz in his last yrs. he became jain & went wid Bhadarbahu 2 sharvanbelgola in Karnataka!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Tiny: 1 Parvataka was porus or puru !!porus was the name given 2 him by greeks like they'd given CGM name Sandrocottos or Androcottus !!
andi read in the history book that puru neevr betrayed CGM!!
and CGM died at the age of 42yrs. by starvation according 2 Jain tradition bcoz in his last yrs. he became jain & went wid Bhadarbahu 2 sharvanbelgola in Karnataka!!


yes tiny i thought Parvataka is the brother of porus; i may be wrong in finding the name of him correctly. but it was him who was of bad deeds. even porus put him away for this. uff read too many articles so literally confused of the names 😆

and yes @red: yes it was in sravana belagola.

this is why people say that history is a big mystery. 😆 😛

ok here i found his name as vairochaka. i don't know whether this is also correct.
Edited by vss08 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Historylover

@ Jayati

first of all welcome to the forum friend...good to have u here...but i m not going to vote in this poll...i have a strong reason for that...i have stopped watching this show...and i'll never watch it again...the way they distorted history...i cant digest it anymore...cant afford to watch Alexander the great in India for 6 years...alex in india for this long is a question mark on our existence as an Indian...if alex wud have stayed in India for 6 years...then i must have been writing this post in greek language😆 ..so coz i dont watch it anymore ...who so ever comes and goes..it doesnt matters to me...now i dont even have any probs wid mrignayani..they can show her as bindusar's mother too...thumbs up from my side...or they can add thousand fake/true stories and have their creative liberty to any extent🤢

@ Sara
i totally agree with u dear...makers don't need to get worried if audience is ready to watch true history...i watched a show on DD years ago...it was based on nawab siraj-ud- daula...and the makers executed the history very well there..they showed his first wife and second wife...they showed him as the way he was..a careless youth at initial stage...then he slowly realized his love for the country...how he become a patriot etc etc...i mean they never tried to show him as a superhero like cgm and chanakya are being shown..they sticked to reality...imagine has portrayed that somehow directly or indirectly chanakya was the reason of alex's death...i find it next to impossible...may be i m wrong coz i dont know whats going on in the show...but still by wu i came to know abt this... even historical characters were human beings...they have their own strength and weaknesses ...acc. to me alex and cgm never shared envy on personal grounds...but here they are showing alexander next to dhananand ..just because the show is based on cgm and he is the hero of the show...they have to show him bigger and better than anything...that too at the wrong time...coz acc to real history..when alex was in India...cgm was a teenager...he never had such a big army at that time...its after alex went back..cgm and chanakya made an army of well trained tribal people...and they also took porus's help to fight against dhannu...that's a different story anyway😉

Note: I mean no offense to any historical characters that i've mentioned...just shared my views coz i think exaggeration of anything more than required can be injurious😊

hey History lover.no problem if u don't want to vote...i respect ur point of view...and what u wrote, I fully agree to that...😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: vss08

acc to history what i have read in many articles his actual wife was Dhurdhara and thier son was Bindusara.


but i also read that Selucus also got his daughter (i think it is helen: i may be wrong with her name) married to Chandragupta after he lost in the battle and also all the provinces he won to chandragupta as a dowry.

in turn Selucus was gifted with 500 elephants by CG and made a friendly agreement to this. didn't read the article fully in archive but while i was going through this is what i found in most.

must confirm this again for sure.



Swetha


ur r totally right...i read the same in my history book and selucus daughter was absolutely HELEN.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Omg ye thread maine tab banaya tha when i was new to this forum... It was my first poll... Yaadein taaza ho gayi!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tiny15

no its not true that he has only one wife bcoz in those days kings had many wives. though main wife might b dhurdhara but oders were also there though we don't know abt their names. and helen was indeed married 2 the CGM but only 4-5 yrs. b4 his death at the age of 42 yrs.!!😊😊and bindusara was his eldest son!! but yes mrignayani is a fictious ckt!


CGM had only 1 wife and her name was DUDHARA. yeah its true that in those days kings had more than 1 wife. But its not necessary that everyone had same history.

And there is less written about CGM, so production house has full opportunity to show fictions... just like character of Mrignayani.

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