Chandra Nandini 71-75: Turbulent Tides

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Sandhya.A

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Posted: 8 years ago

#591

Originally posted by: lashy
I agree... this is the best montage of the lot me thinks.. 😊

Yes. It is.😊

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Sandhya.A

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Posted: 8 years ago

#592

Originally posted by: Sabdabhala

DAADI, IN HER SINGLE MINDED FOCUS TO UNITE HER FAV COUPLE AND BIND THEM IN LOVE, WANTS ONLY BOTH OF THEM TO DO THE POOJA. END OF ALL LOGIC 😆😆

Then why not veto her decision the way 'ONLY Nandini has to share Kaksh with Chandra' or 'Chandra has to carry ONLY Nandini uphill'. She could have just said that 'Chandra has to conduct that ritual and ONLY Nandini will accompany him.' Why hold a competition when the results are pre-decided??? Why initially disqualify Dhurdhara on the basis of her birth and finally Helena on the same basis, when Nandini's lineage is equally inappropriate???

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skamunugama

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Posted: 8 years ago

#593

Dear Aunt,
Good to see you back in the forum with short and sweet comments. It is wise to keep fingers in rest as all are seeing crocodiles in a bowl of water!!! Hopefully this will end once you release the next post 😊

Originally posted by: sashashyam

I am halfway to normalcy, Amina, but the question is how long it will last. Right now, the rona dhona on my thread makes me tired. Anjali has the right name for this lot!

Goodnight, dear.

Shyamala Aunty

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sashashyam

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Posted: 8 years ago

#594

Oh Lord! The same thing over and over and over again, like an LP stuck in one groove. Naan pudichcha muyalukku moonre kalu!

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Then why not veto her decision the way 'ONLY Nandini has to share Kaksh with Chandra' or 'Chandra has to carry ONLY Nandini uphill'. She could have just said that 'Chandra has to conduct that ritual and ONLY Nandini will accompany him.' Why hold a competition when the results are pre-decided??? Why initially disqualify Dhurdhara on the basis of her birth and finally Helena on the same basis, when Nandini's lineage is equally inappropriate???

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Anjali

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Posted: 8 years ago

#595

Aunty,

I dont know how this Maha Queen contest in Chandra Nandni will turn out...But I know the result of the ongoing Maha Polambal Queen contest in this thread.😉

As you are already tired & exhausted, I suggest you to exercise your veto power & declare Sandy as the Ultimate Winner...Poor girl she is working extremely hard 😆

Originally posted by: sashashyam
Oh Lord! The same thing over and over and over again, like an LP stuck in one groove. Naan pudichcha muyalukku moonre kalu!

SA

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Shailaja

@shailusri1983

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Posted: 8 years ago

#596

Most of you here are overreacting about everything. First, the montage which is pretty and much better than earlier ones. Secondly, I went back to the episode to see Dadi's classification and discrimination before I ventured my own arguments. Dadi precisely says Kshatriyas and Vaisya Kul and not about being 100% Royal Blood or 50% Royal Blood or 20% Royal Blood.

Many of our rituals and Pujas are discriminatory and casteist. There is no denying that. It is either done that way or not done at all. If there is a Nombu which only Brahmin ladies do and are permitted to attend, even to this day it is done in the same procedure in our family. Nobody makes changes or even asks questions why it can't be otherwise. The word of the elders and the age-old customs are held supreme. If this is what it is in 21st century, how would the people of 4th BC have been? They would have followed these things even more staunchly.

Kshatriya by definition means the ruling and military elite. Their role is to protect the society by fighting in war time and governing or administration in peace time. Some Kshatriyas were also Blue Blood or belonged to the aristocracy. So by this definition, both Nandini and Helena are eligible for this Puja as they belong to families who are either military elites or belong to the ruling family. By any definition, Durdhara will never belong to a Kshatriya family. She will always owe her origin to the Vaisya clan or the trading and merchantile caste.

Aunty, this time, I am not even being defensive! I am being confident! I have facts on my side!

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Sandhya.A

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Posted: 8 years ago

#597

Originally posted by: sashashyam
Oh Lord! The same thing over and over and over again, like an LP stuck in one groove. Naan pudichcha muyalukku moonre kalu!

SA

Just googled what an LP record was. We do have a few of those at home but didn't know they were called LP.🤓

It is not about 3 kalu or 4. I am open to logic and reason. But i find none in this track. The only logic is that you shouldn't expect any logic, this being Ekta's show. I do try to obliviate every other thing and see only Rajat's presence and Nandini's sweetness, but doesn't work always.😕

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Sandhya.A

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Posted: 8 years ago

#598

@ Shailu

Even if it is just a question of kul, then would Padmanand be classified as a Kshatriya once he assumed throne or once he is husband to a queen, as he now belongs to administration/ruling/military elite. If Nand is not then how is his daughter a Kshatriya? If Nand is, then Dhurdhara should also be a Kshatriya now as she is now a queen and wife to a king.

By any definition of kul, i do not see Nandini/Helena fitting into the competition where Dhurdhara doesn't.

Edited by Sandhya.A - 8 years ago

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Shailaja

@shailusri1983

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Posted: 8 years ago

#599

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A
@ Shailu

Even if it is just a question of kul, then would Padmanand be classified as a Kshatriya once he assumed throne or once he is husband to a queen, as he now belongs to administration/ruling/military elite. If Nand is not then how is his daughter a Kshatriya? If Nand is, then Dhurdhara should also be a Kshatriya now as she is now a queen and wife to a king.

By any definition of kul, i do not see Nandini/Helena fitting into the competition where Dhurdhara doesn't.

Padmanand was the King of Magadh and Nandini was born a princess. Though people see him becoming the king after marrying Avantika, we for all practical purposes know he staged a kind of military coup. He is and was the ruler of Magadh when Nandini was born. Same goes for Helena. Her dad belonged to the military elite always, even when she was born. Durdhara's dad was and is a trader.

And here, it is a policy of exclusion or choosing the best, not one of inclusion. They need only one Rani for the Puja. So it would not do for them to keep on increasing the list instead of decreasing it. So even though, now all of them, Nandini, Helena and Durdhara have to be regarded as belonging to the Kshatriya Kul as they are all equally married to the ruling King, Chandra, it does not work out like that.

For that matter, Dharma is CAS should have been considered a Maharani by everyone and not be insulted for her Brahmin origin or for her having been a Daasi once. But we know that she and Ashok we always taunted by Sushim, Siamack and Jagannath as Daasi, Daasi Putra, etc,

Raja Janak though a very great seer was always called Raj Rishi. Vishvamitra had to move heaven and earth, create a Trishanku Swarga, atone for his sins, undertake a whole lot of penance and propound the Gayatri Mantra before he was called Brahma Rishi.

Class distinctions were so rigid and discriminative during those days. Otherwise, why would a person like Karna who was so powerful, talented, and Tejaswi have to face discrimination throughout his life? If this was the fate of a Suryaputra whom people mistook to be a Sooth Putra, this is still the Durdhara on the show.

Moreover, if she had issues, she had to voice them out. But she seems pretty happy contesting none of this. The worth of every individual is what he/ she perceives himself/herself to be. If they are content with less, people give them less. If you fight for more, there is a chance that you might get more or even lose what you have.

But it is a gamble the individual will have to take. If they respect and esteem themselves less, people also see them like that. Durdhara gives everyone like Helena or Dadi a walkover. So nobody takes her or her claims seriously.

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Khushi_love

@Khushi_love

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Posted: 8 years ago

#600

Actually, what Dadi should have said, was, that " only a queen who is a warrior can participate in this pratiyogita"...That would have eliminated Durdhara leaving the other 2 to compete with each other, without illogically demeaning Durdhara's lineage i n any way...😊

And then, maybe even I wouldn't have announced a PRATIYOGITA for Daadi & Mura 😆

But anyways, I don't think we viewers are expected to take Daadi's words seriously anymore...😉

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A
@ Shailu

Even if it is just a question of kul, then would Padmanand be classified as a Kshatriya once he assumed throne or once he is husband to a queen, as he now belongs to administration/ruling/military elite. If Nand is not then how is his daughter a Kshatriya? If Nand is, then Dhurdhara should also be a Kshatriya now as she is now a queen and wife to a king.

By any definition of kul, i do not see Nandini/Helena fitting into the competition where Dhurdhara doesn't.

Edited by ---Khushi--- - 8 years ago

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