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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


Nandini is certainly guilty of willful neglect of her duties as a princess, of blindly adoring her father and never caring to see his faults even when they are staring at her face. But she was not a part of Nand's crime nor Avantika's. Nor a mute spectator. She can only be accused of wearing a Pitaji-Maharaj patti over her eyes and not doing a post-mortem of events that occured even before she was born.

In the Mahabharat, Bhishma, Dronacharya, Vidur were all mute spectators to a horrible crime. Inspite of being Great Warriors, the elders of the family, Acharyas and Wise men, they did not stand up to stop it. Karna was a part of the crime. During the gambling, he prompted Duryodhan further, as he resented being humiliated by Draupadi for calling him a Sut-putra at the Swayamvar and wanted to pay her back. He lost control of his otherwise fair-minded self, by his continued humiliation since childhood, and insulted Draupadi himself. Gandhari allowed her brother to stay at Hastinapur inspite of knowing what sort of influence he was on Duryodhan. All of them were either causes, direct or indirect, part of or mute spectators of Duryodhan's crime.

Here Nandini is none of those. We as viewers know what happened. Nandini doesn't. Her fault is that she didn't care to find out. But why would she? Even if Mura screams of Nand's crimes, why would Nandini believe her? Or Chandra's words against her father for that matter, especially when she has been seeing and experiencing the total opposite since her childhood. She has seen a chained Mura. But wouldn't she believe it if told that she was a political prisoner, her husband and she had conspired and killed the earlier king or committed some other heinous crime. Nand would have told her just that. And prisoners those days, were treated far worse. Tortures and instant sar-kalmofying were not uncommon.

But Yes. She was raised on paap-ki-daulat and has to pay for it and she will certainly suffer for that.

Her suffering is not at par with that of Mura or Chandra. But her anger against Chandra and hence Mura is not groundless either, considering that she doesn't know what they suffered because of her father. From her view, Chandra is the reason why her father is suffering now and she is having to marry an oaf. If she learns the truth of her Pitaji Maharaj's cruelty and YET blames Chandra/Mura for meting out justice and causing her suffer, then she is entirely at fault. Not till then. Right now her guilt is negligence and refusal to analyse truth, not baseness or cruelty.

But Shweta so far has been pathetic. Which makes Nandini proportionately insufferable. Especially when juxtaposed against Rajat's brilliance, which wins over the viewer's empathy completely in one clean sweep!



Dear

Its citizens duty to know whats going on around them and inform if something illegal happens to law all over world

Fine nand never told her he killed, lusted, abused etc

But its nandini duty to know whats happening in world around her

She cannot be frog in welll

and she has seen as child mura whipped publicly, mura in chains, mura in dark prison etc

only mentally challenged after age of 5 years cannot understand right from wrong or whats happening around them

its her duty to find what her family doing and correct them

by your idea a parent can just say i did not know what my son did, daughter did, wife what husband did

ohhh really then why law first questions family wheres the criminal family member

because all will claim to be innocent of knowing any crime committed anywhere by your logic

but karma and God will not take your arguments, everyone has to pay a price for being part of cartel to crimes and injustice


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Posted: 8 years ago
Not me, Alakh. I am sick and tired of this and I am not coming back here. Not now, not ever.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


Shyamala Aunty and Sandhya. . Can discuss forever 😆 ❤️

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Posted: 8 years ago
What if chandra s first born was a girl child ☺️
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Posted: 8 years ago
But they never seem to allow for this possibility, my dear Amina. Even the feminist Jodha Begum was always talking of nirdosh baalak, never of a baalika.

It was only Jalal who used to assert, time and again, that he would be just as happy if his first born was a girl, and even that he would train her to rule one day.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: amina1

What if chandra s first born was a girl child ☺️

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Not me, Alakh. I am sick and tired of this and I am not coming back here. Not now, not ever.

Shyamala Aunty


😭

Kya hogaya
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Posted: 8 years ago

Vengeance...now that is a subject I usually like seeing explored onscreen, though I have a lackadaisical approach towards it in my personal life😆. If and when the wounded heart bellows for revenge, I use Sun Tzu's quote to shut it up- If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by. Heartwarming quote, no?😉😆

The handsome, square face now looks thin and peaked, like that of an eager bloodhound out for the chase and the kill. It also reflects - in the over bright eyes and the almost feline look in them, in the almost wolfish smile that twists his lips - the pride of birth, the exultation in his royal lineage, that now surges thru Chandragupta's whole being. Thrilling description⭐️

The warning from Nemesis - Nemesis has not quite caught up with Nand and his family as yet, but in Episode 27, she delivered a savage warning to Nandini thru Chandragupta. Not that it had the slightest effect on the benighted girl, but I suppose the goddess had to fulfil divine regulations and issue this mandatory last verbal notice! - These various elements you incorporate in the posts take them to a different level altogether...far above plain analysis.

The essence of royalty - The former, being a commoner, that too one from a very low social level, is merely afraid for his life, and prays that he should not come there at all. But Mura is a queen, and for her, the concept of the duties of a royal is paramount. And for her son, this would mean, above all, taking revenge on Nand for all the crimes he had committed againts the Piplivan royal family and the citizens of that kingdom. A remarkable distinction highlighted wonderfully.

If I was Chandra, I would have chained Nandini up in the same spot in the same way, and made Nand watch that before decapitating him in front of her. Now THAT would be an epic punishment. Going off on a tangent, I often wish historical serials had the guts to show things as they were in those days. I intensely dislike it when makers try to stuff modern thoughts/ideas into the minds and behaviours of men and women in ancient times. By doing so, they are not only blotting out the identity of the people of those times, but are also doing a disservice to those who have struggled to bring a change in those mindsets/attitudes. Okay, venting completed😆.

The Chandra-Helena-Durdhara sections were very sweet :) and the lost hriday part was funny😆. I also enjoyed reading your sharp observations in the Chanakya: Less than impressive and Bizarre expedition parts 😃

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Posted: 8 years ago
Ranjana my dear,

I cannot tell you how wonderful and gratifying it is to find someone whose tastes in matters literary so closely match my own. Someone who thus zeroes in on precisely those parts in my post that are specially dear to me, and who appreciates those parts as I would myself.

With that, as Goethe once said of Kalidasa's Shakuntala, all at once is said.

Thank you.

Shyamala Aunty

PS: Sun Tzu, one presumes, lived to a great old age, so as to take care of all this enemies !

Originally posted by: kautilya04

Vengeance...now that is a subject I usually like seeing explored onscreen, though I have a lackadaisical approach towards it in my personal life😆. If and when the wounded heart bellows for revenge, I use Sun Tzu's quote to shut it up- If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by. Heartwarming quote, no?😉😆

The handsome, square face now looks thin and peaked, like that of an eager bloodhound out for the chase and the kill. It also reflects - in the over bright eyes and the almost feline look in them, in the almost wolfish smile that twists his lips - the pride of birth, the exultation in his royal lineage, that now surges thru Chandragupta's whole being. Thrilling description⭐️

The warning from Nemesis - Nemesis has not quite caught up with Nand and his family as yet, but in Episode 27, she delivered a savage warning to Nandini thru Chandragupta. Not that it had the slightest effect on the benighted girl, but I suppose the goddess had to fulfil divine regulations and issue this mandatory last verbal notice! - These various elements you incorporate in the posts take them to a different level altogether...far above plain analysis.

The essence of royalty - The former, being a commoner, that too one from a very low social level, is merely afraid for his life, and prays that he should not come there at all. But Mura is a queen, and for her, the concept of the duties of a royal is paramount. And for her son, this would mean, above all, taking revenge on Nand for all the crimes he had committed againts the Piplivan royal family and the citizens of that kingdom. A remarkable distinction highlighted wonderfully.

If I was Chandra, I would have chained Nandini up in the same spot in the same way, and made Nand watch that before decapitating him in front of her. Now THAT would be an epic punishment. Going off on a tangent, I often wish historical serials had the guts to show things as they were in those days. I intensely dislike it when makers try to stuff modern thoughts/ideas into the minds and behaviours of men and women in ancient times. By doing so, they are not only blotting out the identity of the people of those times, but are also doing a disservice to those who have struggled to bring a change in those mindsets/attitudes. Okay, venting completed😆.

The Chandra-Helena-Durdhara sections were very sweet :) and the lost hriday part was funny😆. I also enjoyed reading your sharp observations in the Chanakya: Less than impressive and Bizarre expedition parts 😃

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Posted: 8 years ago
B]One major doubt. Chandragupta knows that Nandini hates him virulently. Why then, especially when Mura is around, would he hand Bindusara over to this person who has been trying to kill him, the baby's father, time and again? Would he not be afraid that she would kill the baby ? In his place, and Mura's, they would not let Nandini anywhere near the baby.[/B]

Akka - how can you have such a doubt ? You should know that

Mura will take ticket to heaven soon before Bindusara is born.
Helena will outright reject the kid.
CGM would have come to know about Madam Sweta's quality of saving all living creatures from squirrels, butterflies, grasshoppers to insects in the palace gardens and be charmed and taken by this extreme compassion.
Nandini would also be friendly with Durdhara .

With all above points, the child ( of 1 Day) will lean towards Nandini and CGM will wipe his tears and be happy with this arrangement.

With my JA experience, I can visualize something like this.

But in case of no death by Mura, do not worry, Still it will be Nandini who will come to the rescue. I expect either Chanakya or Mura to suggest and second her name to be the foster mother for Bindusara.

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

But they never seem to allow for this possibility, my dear Amina. Even the feminist Jodha Begum was always talking of nirdosh baalak, never of a baalika.

It was only Jalal who used to assert, time and again, that he would be just as happy if his first born was a girl, and even that he would train her to rule one day.

Shyamala Aunty

aunty in that case we have to give credit to nand he was dush paapi but mahan pita and he loved his daughter

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