Why can't they dub Rajat's voice DT NOTE pg 10 - Page 4

Originally posted by: chahat4u

And those who are here only to find faults even if something is good or exceptional. Those who think Rajat should be replaced, you always have option to stop watching or find and watch Sagar's CGM. Rajat has his fans to support, always with him since PRC, when he was the first actor to do a historical. he was the reason historicals trend started, he was the reason people started taking interest in historicals. he is still the benchmark of god performance in historicals especially. Though he justifies each role of his. I remember before PRC people making fun of an upcoming historical show, saying who will watch it. But first look of Rajat and historicals became an in thing. He understands nuances of character, portrays each scene perfectly, he is the best in action. PRC and DV show that. I don't think anyone else could have done CGM better, and I would have stood by him in this regard even if I was not his fan.

Problem with height? since when height has come in way of talent? Tom Cruise is a famous actor with short height but innumerable fans and talented enough to deserve that fandom. Aamir Khan is another excellent actor with short height. How ironic, how a more important thing in a person like his talent can be ignored for a physical feature.

Besides, people do not complain when a good looking actor is chosen for the character of a a real historical figure. who may not have been that good looking or he may be what society calls ugly. Why people d not complain and say actor's looks are not appropriate for that character's portrayal.

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

Shyamala Aunty,

I had seen this thread n chose to ignore it. I came here on your recommendation.😃

If I don't like a show, esp it's lead & main protagonist, I simply don't watch that show...😃

I definitely DONT do this:-

1) watch it

2) come to IF n make long posts n discuss about in detail 😆the shortcomings of the show (pun intended😉)

Tom Cruise/Amir Khan to name a few, contradict the 'shortcomings"😆

Voice is of course a matter of opinion 😃...according to me, there isn't another actor in India who could have done CGM Ike RT

RT you rock, man ⭐️⭐️...keep up the good work!!!!👏

Originally posted by: chahat4u

Addressing first line first. "Rajat is a decent to good actor"... Nopes, he is neither just decent nor just good. he is an actor par excellence, a phenomenal actor. For me, he is not just one of the best but sitting right there at the top.

Now, coming to problem of his voice. To some extent, for the part where his dialogues sometimes come out as whispers might be a problem and I am sure if anyone points this out to him. He will not mind but work on himself with even more zeal. But I do not mind his voice. In fact dubbing will ruin the entire affect, those who can relate to him knowing the actor portraying is Rajat Tokas. Those who are used to his voice, ( mind you actor's own voice is much more impactful in many terms. Including most if not all viewers being able to relate to that scene and character more)

I have been watching him since PRC and personally I would not prefer getting his dialogues/voice dubbed. It may even force me to stop watching show or skip it. (Besides I am watching this show for Rajat's acting, and his complete avatar on screen, voice including. I wont like a substitute.)

Let's just hope, our voices reach him and he starts taking care of not only his throat, his voice but also his diction.

Originally posted by: chahat4u

And those who are here only to find faults even if something is good or exceptional. Those who think Rajat should be replaced, you always have option to stop watching or find and watch Sagar's CGM. Rajat has his fans to support, always with him since PRC, when he was the first actor to do a historical. he was the reason historicals trend started, he was the reason people started taking interest in historicals. he is still the benchmark of god performance in historicals especially. Though he justifies each role of his. I remember before PRC people making fun of an upcoming historical show, saying who will watch it. But first look of Rajat and historicals became an in thing. He understands nuances of character, portrays each scene perfectly, he is the best in action. PRC and DV show that. I don't think anyone else could have done CGM better, and I would have stood by him in this regard even if I was not his fan.

Problem with height? since when height has come in way of talent? Tom Cruise is a famous actor with short height but innumerable fans and talented enough to deserve that fandom. Aamir Khan is another excellent actor with short height. How ironic, how a more important thing in a person like his talent can be ignored for a physical feature.

Besides, people do not complain when a good looking actor is chosen for the character of a a real historical figure. who may not have been that good looking or he may be what society calls ugly. Why people d not complain and say actor's looks are not appropriate for that character's portrayal.

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

I really don't know what to make out of the criticism like the one we are seeing here. It is just nitpicking for the sake of it, or these people have made dislike into a habit. If you are going to watch the best of the shows performed by the best of the actors with the intention of fault finding or a judgmental attitude, you are going to find a whole lot of them.

Even Oscar winning films and Actors will not be able to fulfil this touchstone. People with realistic expectations are always going to find Rajat a phenomenal actor, and CN an entertaining show. Regarding height or voice, it is genetic. Nobody can change the essential quality of the voice with which they are born. The things which can be changed are probably diction, dialogue delivery, etc. Rajat is doing fine in all those aspects. And many of us watching CN are very happy with Rajat's voice. We know it and will not be able to accept any other dubbed voice replacing it. It would look shoddy and seem like patchwork.

Regarding height, I think some of the greatest generals in military history were short. Napoleon was reputed to be short, Alexander the Great even shorter, and Ghenghis Khan the shortest of the lot. Nearer home, Shivaji was also reputed to be a short man. So height is not a standard to measure the greatness of these great people. We never know how tall historical CGM must have been. However he did not have a reputation for height either. So the question that Rajat does not suit to be CGM because he was not over six feet in height doesn't merit any consideration.

There is a saying in Telugu which I will translate for the benefit of all, "The Palm tree grows tall and so have you; but of what benefit to anyone around you?" So the essential thing is not the height of a person, but the height and loftiness of their personality and goodness.

Originally posted by: rohini55

This is a dangerous forum and anyone who wants to dissent mildly better stay away. If you say a word against RT you will be clobbered. Shyamala, you criticised the EDT on the Ashoka forum as much and as often as you wanted without anyone interrupting you. You said people there were of one mind and did not appreciate a diversity of views. What is this if not an intolerance for a different point of view? What is this if not indirect bullying?

Why can't I think what I want to think?

I know I will be attacked viciously but I don't care because I'm never stepping in here again.

I said Rajat has a feeble voice and he does and it wasn't a reference to the battle scenes. People may have got used to him

But I haven't.

And I have a right to say what I want to say. How you view a person is subjective and that subjectivity should be respected.

I popped in here after 10 or 15 days just to take a break from better preoccupations and I wish I had not.

Originally posted by: rohini55

This is a dangerous forum and anyone who wants to dissent mildly better stay away. If you say a word against RT you will be clobbered. Shyamala, you criticised the EDT on the Ashoka forum as much and as often as you wanted without anyone interrupting you. You said people there were of one mind and did not appreciate a diversity of views. What is this if not an intolerance for a different point of view? What is this if not indirect bullying?

Why can't I think what I want to think?

I know I will be attacked viciously but I don't care because I'm never stepping in here again.

I said Rajat has a feeble voice and he does and it wasn't a reference to the battle scenes. People may have got used to him

But I haven't.

And I have a right to say what I want to say. How you view a person is subjective and that subjectivity should be respected.

I popped in here after 10 or 15 days just to take a break from better preoccupations and I wish I had not.

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

Rohini my response was to the criticism per say (voice of the actor, height of the actor, etc) and not in any way personal. Just as criticizing was your freedom of expression, defending was my freedom of expression. Just as you can express dissent, we can also express assent and heap justified praise.

Originally posted by: rohini55

This is a dangerous forum and anyone who wants to dissent mildly better stay away. If you say a word against RT you will be clobbered. Shyamala, you criticised the EDT on the Ashoka forum as much and as often as you wanted without anyone interrupting you. You said people there were of one mind and did not appreciate a diversity of views. What is this if not an intolerance for a different point of view? What is this if not indirect bullying?

Why can't I think what I want to think?

I know I will be attacked viciously but I don't care because I'm never stepping in here again.

I said Rajat has a feeble voice and he does and it wasn't a reference to the battle scenes. People may have got used to him

But I haven't.

And I have a right to say what I want to say. How you view a person is subjective and that subjectivity should be respected.

I popped in here after 10 or 15 days just to take a break from better preoccupations and I wish I had not.