Chandra Nandini 10: The Mystery of the Missing Chemistry

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Folks,

I was somewhat tempted to skip this one altogether, for there was hardly anything much of note to it. I am not interested in the ludicrous scenes of our pita li ladli teasing her rotund bhabhi and thus reaffirming her chulbuli, natkhat aur nadaan credentials. Nor in recounting how Padmanand was hauled over the coals, metaphorically speaking, by both the pesky women in his life: his Maharani Avantika, and the once Maharani of Piplivan, Mura, who is now like a burr that lacerates him but he is not able to shake off either.

Though I must say that I loved Mura's glad-eyed vindictiveness, and the laughing gusto with which she ladles verbal vitriol over him, as he stands there, crippled by a loss that has, temporarily, made him a hollow man.

The Great Chemistry Hunt: To revert, I have been subjected elsewhere in this forum to so much of anticipatory froth about the "chemistry" between our lead pair, already dubbed as "passion" and analysed with the minute exactitude worthy of a delicate scientific experiment in, what else, chemistry,šŸ˜‰ that I felt it was time I added my tuppence worth to the mix. This is it.

There is, as of now , NO chemistry between Chandragupta and Nandini. It will undoubtedly germinate, and bloom luxuriantly, in its own proper time. But that time is not just yet.

Efforts to locate any of this will o'the wisp prematurely - even with all the grim determination usually seen in archeological expeditions looking for another bejeweled pharaonic mummy to rival that of King TutankhamenšŸ˜‰ - are, for the present , bound to end up as exercises in self-delusion. A mrigtrishna, a mirage.

This is hardly surprising. One cannot insist that two young people at loggerheads with each other, and not without reason, should be also teetering on the edge of falling on each other's necks!

There is anger, yes, on both sides, and for valid reasons, though he is mistaken in attributing his being exposed solely to Nandini's detective propensities. Moreover, she is not only the coddled daughter of the man he has hated for years, but she has also shown herself to be, to his mind, unnecessarily devious in hiding her identity and fooling him with her daasi vesh.

As for her, she is not just furious at her family having been fooled by this interloper, but also, and perhaps even more so, at her having been rejected, deliberately and insolently, by the selfsame bahuroopiya.

Economy of expression : I have, at this point, a confession to make. I was mistaken when I wrote in my last post that Nandini, on sighting the escapee in the anthahpura, looked terrified. She does not. She apparently meant to project intense anger, but since she opens her eyes to their full width for a whole range of emotions, my mistake was perhaps pardonable.šŸ˜‰

In fact, she looks pretty much the same then, later when she has knocked both of them off the horse, then after she has taken a bit of skin and probably flesh too off Chandragupta's hand, and finally when he is astride his horse, and is looking at her with the faintest trace of a smug smile before riding off. The only extra she bothers to tack on to the afore-mentioned wide-eyed stare is a tic, of pressing down on her lower lip. This too is a staple.

Methinks Swetha must be a classical dancer. On the stage, the dancer has to project emotions with great emphasis, so that the facial expressions are visible even from the last rows of the theatre. But if the same OTT style is adopted in cinema, the results are bound to look forced. Which is what her attempt at projecting the roudhra rasa after that tumble off the horse looked like, with eyes looking as if they had been forced open and clamped in position.

No nuances were to be seen thereafter either. That was not only because the young man - whose thoughtful gesture of saving her from that wimpish lizard she had reciprocated with a solid slap (now that was well executed, full of vim and vigour, and with an excellent forearm swing and follow up actionšŸ‘) - had unleashed some primitive rage of his own, and was squeezing her jaw as hard as he could, not letting go even after she had sunk her pearly whites into the crook of his palm. As of now, apni Nandini is like that only, she believes in a decided economy of expression. šŸ˜‰

Natural reactions: And no, nothing of what she does all thru the episode, from rushing at him in the anthahpura to biting him a an attempt to get free, has anything to do with any wild passion for this bahuroopiya burgeoning inside her all unbeknownst to herself. It is all exactly what any young girl who is not a wilting lily would have done under the prevailing circumstances, right down to trying to take a chunk off the chap who seems bent on dislocating her jaw. šŸ˜†

One more point. I see that some here have been blaming Nandini for not having managed to free herself even before they rode out of the palace gates; she is a fighter, they insist, for whom this should have been a chutki ki baat, but she had fallen down on the job. This is illogical. Nandini is good at fencing and archery, but that does not make her a pro at jijutsu, which is what she would have needed to get out her captor's iron grip.

Silent smouldering: As for Chandragupta, he is oscillating between undoubted satisfaction at his having pulled off a daring escape regardless of the machinations of this harpy he has been forced to lug along, and irritation at her successful efforts to unseat them both. Besides, he is totally unfamiliar with young women, and is unsure of how to handle this wildcat he has been saddled with. For she displays her feline traits even before she bites him!

Kya museebat mol liya hai maine! Iska abhi ky karein? , he must be muttering to himself, as he considers her with barely veiled irritation in his now almost coal black eyes. There is no real anger in them, for he now feels on top in the game he has been playing, having forced the Magadha Samrat and all his minions to stand by helplessly while he rode off with his khul jaa sim sim talisman of a princess.

He says nothing because he cannot think of anything to the point to say, and in any case, he is not given to speaking much, indeed not at all if he can help it.

I do not know why he pulls the dupatta off to dislodge the lizard, but it was probably the sort of thing he would have done with a boy, and he is not well versed in the niceties governing dealings with unfamiliar young women. Which is why the unmerited slap angers him so much, and almost calls forth a counter slap. He remembers the stree par prahaar varjit hai just in time, but he is now not of a mind, after all she has done to trip him up since their duel under more benign circumstances, to let her go scot free. So he adopts a median line and squeezes her mouth and jaw shut with savage retaliatory force.

Soon, this becomes less of a payback for her behaviour and more of a preventive measure, as he hears the sound of the horses of the posse that he realises is after them. He has to keep her from yelling and alerting them before he is ready.

So he presses even harder, and not even the bite makes him relax his hold on her jaw in the slightest. In fact, the pain of it does not even seem to register with him, so intent is he on the sounds of the search party, and on thinking out his next moves.

When he has thought them thru, he junks this tiresome pest of a female with a hard shove that sends her reeling, while he gets ready to scale the rocky outcrop and activate his plan of escape.

Chemistry? Kahaan? In all of this, there is not even a smidgen of any kind of attraction in him towards the girl - physical, mental, emotional, whatever. How could there be , in this situation? He looks at her as if she was a tiresome imposition, plus an unpredictable wildcat he has to keep a wary eye on all the time, not as if she was someone he was falling for. šŸ˜‰

And in any case, all this is unknown territory for Chandragupta, who is not going to be swept away by the budding of the divine passion just because he has received a solid bite!

Nor does he lick off the bite because he is somehow intoxicated by this commingling of their concerned bodily fluidsšŸ˜†. Boys lick away all sorts of wounds, from cuts to bruises, that they acquire while playing or fighting or whatever, and their standard operating procedure is to rub the wound with dust and saliva.

As for the very faint smile on his face when he is astride the horse and is about to ride off, it says only one thing. You can rave and rant all you want, you jungli billi, and your precious father as well, but I will get my own back regardless. So watch out! While Nandini stands there in impotent anger, huffing and puffing like a tea kettle on the gas ring. šŸ˜†

So, sorry, all the incurable romantics and passion-seekers in the forum, but to me at least, the Chandragupta-Nandini chemistry column is, right now, a blank. I am sure , however, that if you all hang in there and possess your collective souls in patience, the green liquid in the retort will start bubbling and boiling in due course, and will also change colour to a rich red, the colour of, what else, passion!!šŸ˜‰

The real chemistry: This is not the one between Chandragupta and Nandini, but between the shishya and his guru. Between Chandragupta and Chanakya.

They do not need words to communicate , nor do they need to explain anything to each other. They are almost symbiotic, united in an instinctive, mute understanding that is far stronger than any verbalization. And there is an emotional bond between them that has grown and taken root, all of Chanakya's assertions to the contrary notwithstanding. This is evident in so many ways.

As Malayaketu is complaining about Chandragupta, Chanakya is walking up and down the room at a phenomenal pace. He, normally so phlegmatic and unmoved by any disaster, is now clearly on edge, because he is deeply worried about Chandragupta. Not just about his success or failure in his mission but about the deadly danger he must have been in after having been, as Malayaketu's tirade makes clear, exposed as a fraud.

Again, as Chandragupta, having quietly waited till Malayaketu is well and truly gone, raises his eyes, for once, to those of his mentor, proffers the map of the Pataliputra palace that he has prepared, and then lowers his eyes once more, Chanakya's expression is a study.

His face and his eyes are aglow with so much pride and so much vatsalya for this boy wonder of his that no one, having seen him at that moment, could ever say henceforth that for Chanakya, Chandragupta is just a peerless weapon with which to fulfil his plans, and nothing more. He loves this boy, whom he has nurtured and shaped, like the son he would have wanted to have. And by now, Chandragupta knows this too.

That explains how he, despite his total samarpan to his mentor, does not hesitate to voice the disappointment he feels when the precious maanchitra - which he has prepared with so much effort and after running so many deadly risks - is first declared to be now useless, and is then reduced to ashes by Chanakya. It is equally noteworthy that the guru does not shut him up by demanding unquestioning obedience. He explains the reason why the plan has now been overtaken by events thanks to Amatya Rakshas, and also that it cannot be allowed to lie around and perhaps fall into the wrong hands.

The two of them, mentor and pupil, are now a perfectly attuned, smoothly working team. So when he is informed that their next move would be to contact Raja Purushottam , aka Porus, of the Pauravas (whose kingdom of Kekeya lay between the Jhelum and the Chenab rivers), Chandragupta has no questions. He immediately starts internalizing this new information, and behind his lowered brows, one can practically see the wheels of his brain starting to rev up.

The precap seems to hint at a plan of Chanakya's to kidnap Nandini, whom Chandragupta will of course identify as Padmanand's Achilles heel. He very likely intends to use her to neutralize Padmanand, and force him to go to war with the Macedonians, or to at least block their eastwards march, while he tries to do the same in the northwest thru Purushottam.

A curious point: Chanakya tells Malayaketu that he cannot leave for Pataliputra because there are still four months to go for his deeksha at the end of his studies in the gurukul. When he is complaining vociferously to Chanakya about Chandragupta's perfidy in stealing the invitation to the swayamwar, he says that this was his last day there, ie in the gurukul. It is then that Chandragupta arrives.

This means that for once, the to and fro journey from Takshashila to Pataliputra and back is shown as taking a realistic 4 months.

Misplaced criticism: This was for, as the folks concerned assumed, having shown only 6 soldiers sent by Padmanand and his army commander Vakranaas for running down Chandragupta and rescuing Nandini. But this was only one of the many such posses that must have been despatched, for the pursuers had no idea in which direction Chandragupta had gone after crossing the drawbridge over the palace moat.

I do wish, however, that Chandragupta had had a sword, and had had to fight his way out of a much larger group of pursuers, a la Jalal's escape from the Amer jail with the crippled Abdul in tow. Now that was one terrific scene, and this would have been just as thrilling! But the CVs here seem fixated on these silly VFX stunts, as at Chandragupta's entry and now here.😔

OK, folks, this is it for now. Please do not forget to hit the Like button if you think that is warranted.

One more thing. I find that I simply cannot manage these daily episode analyses any more. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is, alas, weak! With my rheumatoid arthritis, I cannot cope with the amount of typing, nor can I spare the amount of time - over 6 hours daily - needed for me not just to write these analyses - which is the easier part - but to respond to all the comments. I am falling further and further behind with the latter, and feeling more and more guilty about it. In fact, I feel as if I am on a treadmill that is going faster and faster as I struggle to keep pace with it and not fall off. It is clearly time to for a change if I am to sustain this exercise.

So, from this week, I propose to do biweekly analyses, on Wednesdays and on Saturdays. This should be more manageable for me. I hope this will be OK with you as well.

So, see you all again next Wednesday, folks. Hasta la vista!

Shyamala/Aunty/Akka/Di

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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Though I must say that I loved Mura's glad-eyed vindictiveness, and the laughing gusto with which she ladles verbal vitriol over him, as he stands there, crippled by a loss that has, temporarily, made him a hollow man.

Yes... didn't know it was possible to make someone so hollow, hollower... but she has!

The Great Chemistry Hunt:

I loved your analogy of us poor folk searching for the missing 'chemistry' seeming just like the archaeological expeditions hunting for bejewelled mummies šŸ˜†

Economy of expression :

since she opens her eyes to their full width for a whole range of emotions, my mistake was perhaps pardonable.šŸ˜‰

šŸ˜† Periyamma...

In fact, she looks pretty much the same then, later when she has knocked both of them off the horse, then after she has taken a bit of skin and probably flesh too off Chandragupta's hand, and finally when he is astride his horse, and is looking at her with the faintest trace of a smug smile before riding off. The only extra she bothers to tack on to the afore-mentioned wide-eyed stare is a tic, of pressing down on her lower lip. This too is a staple.

I like how even in your description of her, your choicest phrases go to him! šŸ˜‰ The heart likes what the heart likes... and here, tis the heart, the mind and the eyes that like!

Methinks Swetha must be a classical dancer. On the stage, the dancer has to project emotions with great emphasis, so that the facial expressions are visible even from the last rows of the theatre. But if the same OTT style is adopted in cinema, the results are bound to look forced. Which is what her attempt at projecting the roudhra rasa after that tumble off the horse looked like, with eyes looking as if they had been forced open and clamped in position.

She is trying too hard!

No nuances were to be seen thereafter either. That was not only because the young man - whose thoughtful gesture of saving her from that wimpish lizard she had reciprocated with a solid slap (now that was well executed, full of vim and vigour, and with an excellent forearm swing and follow up actionšŸ‘) - had unleashed some primitive rage of his own, and was squeezing her jaw as hard as he could, not letting go even after she had sunk her pearly whites into the crook of his palm. As of now, apni Nandini is like that only, she believes in a decided economy of expression. šŸ˜‰

A solid slap... hope they didn't have many retakes for the slap... for that was one thing that they didn't need to use effects for! And the poor chap only returns home to taste a few more of this... purely for sake of drama...

It is all exactly what any young girl who is not a wilting lily would have done under the prevailing circumstances, right down to trying to take a chunk off the chap who seems bent on dislocating her jaw. šŸ˜†


He is totally unfamiliar with young women, and is unsure of how to handle this wildcat he has been saddled with. For she displays her feline traits even before she bites him!

Kya museebat mol liya hai maine! Iska abhi ky karein? , he must be muttering to himself, as he considers her with barely veiled irritation in his now almost coal black eyes. There is no real anger in them, for he now feels on top in the game he has been playing, having forced the Magadha Samrat and all his minions to stand by helplessly while he rode off with his khul jaa sim simtalisman of a princess.

He says nothing because he cannot think of anything to the point to say, and in any case, he is not given to speaking much, indeed not at all if he can help it.

I do not know why he pulls the dupatta off to dislodge the lizard, but it was probably the sort of thing he would have done with a boy, and he is not well versed in the niceties governing dealings with unfamiliar young women. Which is why the unmerited slap angers him so much, and almost calls forth a counter slap. He remembers the stree par prahaar varjit hai just in time, but he is now not of a mind, after all she has done to trip him since their duel under more benign circumstances, to let her go scot free. So he adopts a median line and squeezes her mouth and jaw shut with savage retaliatory force.

Reading this part was enlightening... true... and this is exactly why he's behaved so crudely with a lady...

When he has thought them thru, he junks this tiresome wildcat of a female with a hard shove that sends her reeling, while he gets ready to scale the rocky outcrop and activate his plan of escape.

How beautifully described...

Chemistry? Kahaan?

Nor does he lick off the bite because he is somehow intoxicated by this commingling of their concerned bodily fluidsšŸ˜†. Boys lick away all sorts of wounds, from cuts to bruises, that they acquire while playing or fighting or whatever, and their standard operating procedure is to rub the wound with dust and saliva.

Yes the saliva has enzymes that acts as a natural antimicrobial agent... nevertheless, the first instinctive reaction would be to wipe it off on his clothes... especially if he knew she'd just bitten him there.. you'd have to agree periyamma... the makers had added it for effect šŸ˜‰

While Nandini stands there in impotent anger, huffing and puffing like a tea kettle on the gas ring. šŸ˜†

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liquid in the retort will start bubbling and boiling in due course, and will also change colour to a rich red, the colour of, what else, passion!!šŸ˜‰

Phew... I saw 'green' first and was about to request you to change the colour from green to red... šŸ˜†

The real chemistry:

Again, as Chandragupta, having quietly waited till Malayaketu is well and truly gone, raises his eyes, for once, to those of his mentor, proffers the map of the Pataliputa palace that he has prepared, and then lowers his eyes once more, Chanakya's expression is a study.

šŸ‘

His face and his eyes are aglow with so much pride and so much vatsalya for this boy wonder of his that no one, having seen him at that moment, could ever say henceforth that for Chanakya, Chandragupta is just a peerless weapon with which to fulfil his plans, and nothing more. He loves this boy, whom he has nurtured and shaped, like the son he would have wanted to have. And by now, Chandragupta knows this too.

Interesting observation, Periyamma

Chandragupta has no questions. He immediately starts internalizing this new information, and behind his lowered brows, one can practically see the wheels of his brain starting to rev up.


The precap seems to hint at a plan of Chanakya's to kidnap Nandini, whom Chandragupta will of course identify as Padmanand's Achilles heel. He very likely intends to use her to neutralize Padmanand, and forceh im to go to war with the Macedonians, or to at least block their eastwards march, while he tries to do the same in the northwest thru Purushottam.

Yes...

End note

This is hardly surprising. One cannot insist that two young people at loggerheads with each other, and not without reason, should be also teetering on the edge of falling on each other's necks!

There is anger, yes, on both sides, and for valid reasons

In all of this, there is not even a smidgen of any kind of attraction in him towards the girl - physical, mental, emotional, whatever. How could there be , in this situation? He looks at her as if she was a tiresome imposition, plus an unpredictable wildcat he has to keep a wary eye on all the time, not as if she was someone he was falling for.

Periyamma... as a longstanding fan of romance, I hope you wouldn't mind if I add my 2 cents worth about chemistry? 😳

Chemistry between two people... be it a man and a woman (as is most often used) or between two individuals themselves - as I've understood - is an interaction, an impulse, be it a word or just a gaze, or even more fleeting, just a sense of presence ...

However, what I have gathered is that - whatever it is, it is something that leaves a lingering impression - positive or negative. The sparks of chemistry can arise from hatred and spite, just as it can be felt from attraction. It can happen because of admiration, just as it can stem from jealousy. Which is why chemistry between two enemies, can be just as impactful as the chemistry between two lovers... if executed properly, of course!

If it was meant to be the kind of romance that grows with age, like fine wine... then they should have let the scenes be casual! If the makers had to show that there is no 'chemistry' at this stage, then the scenes should have been one of apathy or general indifference - figuratively speaking - like two passengers in a bus getting off at different destinations that barely know the other one exists.

Instead; with all those extended scenes between the duo, with all that background music and shlokas, with all that symbolism and slow-mo shots, the dialogues, the pantene shampoo ads... and moreover, with such brimming anger and hatred between the two (actually, this would be an amazing basis for the audience to feel chemistry based on some impassioned annoyance-bordering-on-hatred for one another) one is bound to search for the sparks - and somehow, many of us are still left searching for it...


Edited by lashy - 8 years ago
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Another excellent analysis! I will miss your regular posts but you must focus on your health first. Only do this if you feel like it. RA is a bothersome condition to have. A family member of mine also suffers from it.
Now coming to the episode,

The Chemistry Hunt - ah aunt this one I must disagree with. Our characters certainly do have the chemicals that make for an explosive mixture!! Why I am thoroughly enjoying their hate for each other...maybe its because I have too much of a ASOIAF influence or maybe its my twisted taste for the dark side...but I do see a hateful chemistry brewing! I do not mean any romantic notions as of now...there is NO romance for now...just pure simple loathing...I am twisted enough to admit that I enjoy such craziness. šŸ˜†
Maybe it would be better not calling whatever they have as chemistry but 'Tashan' instead.

Nandini seems to rush headlong at danger whenever she sees it!! Stupid girl has no self-preservation instinct !! She is all Grrr...Scratch...Wriggle...Bite! 🤣

I, for one, enjoyed the Avantika and Padmanand scene! Nemesis has an official spokesperson in this queen! It is as if She is pointing her finger at the escaping man and saying 'See, Your time is coming!'

Mura's gloating vindication was a nice touch but Avantika was something else altogether.

You are right about Chandragupta. He is definitely thinking that he got the wrong end of the deal with this wildcat. Somehow, I get the feeling that he does not know how to talk to a woman 🤣


I dont get your take on the face grabbing part though. I thought he did that out of anger and once he heard the horses coming, he let her go for he had bigger fish to fry.

Your description of the vatsalya the guru feels is bang on! Could not have said it better myself! For the first time, as he paces while listening to Malayketu, I can see the tension and worry he is hiding in his frantic steps.

Lastly, at risk of a scolding from you, I must admit I enjoyed the putri pita prem milap. I see this version of Nand and I wonder what will happen to him when his sins come knocking at the door. So maybe I am sadistic that way ( I did mention my twisted taste did I not?) but it gives me satisfaction to watch this and think 'Wait...just you wait!'

I look forward to the biweekly posts from you. Do take care. šŸ¤—

Edited by BrienneOfTarth - 8 years ago
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Periyamma pls take care of your health... šŸ¤—

When and only if you have the time, Periyamma a thought/question struck me...

Chanakya is such an expert on powerplay... he has a shrewd answer, a solution to so many problems...

So, what were his opinions on women in general? Or did he not have much opinion of them? What about on how to treat them? Say, in order to gain his means at least? As a man who believed in using brains before brawns... as a man who believed in achieving the end, whatever the means - why didn't he train CGM that 'A charmer can get his way quicker and easier than a man who only used force could...'

I've heard he used Vishkanyas against enemies (not sure) but haven't heard anything positive about his take on women.

Has there been anything on it? Is this serial deliberately portraying the anti-prem angle for entertainment? Or did Chanakya really not consider women (or any woman) worth a man's time?

Not saying either way is right or wrong, it's just individual personalities...

Just curious, especially after reading what you've written...

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Originally posted by: BrienneOfTarth



The Chemistry Hunt - ah aunt this one I must disagree with. Our characters certainly do have the chemicals that make for an explosive mixture!! Why I am thoroughly enjoying their hate for each other...maybe its because I have too much of a ASOIAF influence or maybe its my twisted taste for the dark side...but I do see a hateful chemistry brewing! I do not mean any romantic notions as of now...there is NO romance for now...just pure simple loathing...I am twisted enough to admit that I enjoy such craziness. šŸ˜†
Maybe it would be better not calling whatever they have as chemistry but 'Tashan' instead.



I would LOVE to join you on the dark side, Ankita šŸ˜”... I enjoy watching hateful chemistry... it's more entertaining and has more to offer in general... but here, the makers are yet to polish how hateful chemistry/Tashan can be achieved...
Imagine that same last scene without the artificial lizard... or his helicopter stunts or imagine we really got to witness the looming action/impact of numerous soldiers following them... close on their heels...

The effect that would have given rise to would be something else...
Edited by lashy - 8 years ago
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I wrote my analysis on the Friday's episode in ur Houdini act wala thread so I am just pasting everything that I wrote in there,here.


Friday's episode was a filler episode.I found it really boring.

There was no need for those Chandra Nandini scenes.The strange part was there were 2 scenes where both of them were looking at each other with anger and hatred yet the background music was romantic one.🤣It's as if the director was telling the viewers,"Dekho Dekho,Chandra Nandini ek doosre ko ghoor rahe hain.šŸ˜‰Time for drooling!Chalo shuru ho jao."🤪🤣I found that scenes and background music really odd.🤣

Nandini is supposed to be a trained fighter but all she does to defend herself was Biting.🤣When Chandra stopped near the palace gate, I was thinking she will hit him so hard with her elbow that he will fall from the horse and the soldiers will capture him again. She had got enough time to do that.

Frankly speaking,there was no need for those scenes.

Avantika and Moora told the same things to Padmanand about karma and how his daughter is kidnapped by someone because he kidnapped many women like that.Those scenes and dialogues were repetitive. The only difference was Avantika said all these in pain,worry and anger whereas Moora was laughing and making fun and adding salt to the wounds while saying all these.After so many years,Moora was so happy.

Why was Chanakya pretending that he has nothing to do with Chandra going to Patliputra in front of Malayketu?I didn't like him slapping Chandra unnecessarily.

I feel the reason why in future Nandini will be more close to Chandra and understand him more than even Chanakya is because she will treat him like a human and not a puppet or machine unlike Chanakya.In future,Chandra can openly express himself only in front of Nandini and not Chanakya for whom he has feelings of only respect and nothing else.Chandra-Chanakya relationship is more formal.There are many Gurus who love,care and respect their pupils but I think Chanakya of this show is not like that.He is keeping Chandra only because he has that ability and ambition to dethrone Padmanand, become emperor and fulfill ABN mission.

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Yea .. chemistry will come when it must ... so in the mean time, we are seeing lots of impressive actions by the leads
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Folks,

I was somewhat tempted to skip this one altogether, for there was hardly anything much of note to it. I am not interested in the ludicrous scenes of our pita li ladli teasing her rotund bhabhi and thus reaffirming her chulbuli, natkhat aur nadaan credentials. Nor in recounting how Padmanand was hauled over the coals, metaphorically speaking, by both the pesky women in his life: his Maharani Avantika, and the once Maharani of Piplivan, Mura, who is now like a burr that lacerates him but he is not able to shake off either.

Though I must say that I loved Mura's glad-eyed vindictiveness, and the laughing gusto with which she ladles verbal vitriol over him, as he stands there, crippled by a loss that has, temporarily, made him a hollow man.

The Great Chemistry Hunt: To revert, I have been subjected elsewhere in this forum to so much of anticipatory froth about the "chemistry" between our lead pair, already dubbed as "passion" and analysed with the minute exactitude worthy of a delicate scientific experiment in, what else, chemistry,šŸ˜‰ that I felt it was time I added my tuppence worth to the mix. This is it.

There is, as of now , NO chemistry between Chandragupta and Nandini. It will undoubtedly germinate, and bloom luxuriantly, in its own proper time. But that time is not just yet.

Efforts to locate any of this will o'the wisp prematurely - even with all the grim determination usually seen in archeological expeditions looking for another bejeweled pharaonic mummy to rival that of King TutankhamenšŸ˜‰ - are, for the present , bound to end up as exercises in self-delusion. A mrigtrishna, a mirage.

This is hardly surprising. One cannot insist that two young people at loggerheads with each other, and not without reason, should be also teetering on the edge of falling on each other's necks!

There is anger, yes, on both sides, and for valid reasons, though he is mistaken in attributing his being exposed solely to Nandini's detective propensities. Moreover, she is not only the coddled daughter of the man he has hated for years, but she has also shown herself to be, to his mind, unnecessarily devious in hiding her identity and fooling him with her daasi vesh.

As for her, she is not just furious at her family having been fooled by this interloper, but also, and perhaps even more so, at her having been rejected, deliberately and insolently, by the selfsame bahuroopiya.

Economy of expression : I have, at this point, a confession to make. I was mistaken when I wrote in my last post that Nandini, on sighting the escapee in the anthahpura, looked terrified. She does not. She apparently meant to project intense anger, but since she opens her eyes to their full width for a whole range of emotions, my mistake was perhaps pardonable.šŸ˜‰

In fact, she looks pretty much the same then, later when she has knocked both of them off the horse, then after she has taken a bit of skin and probably flesh too off Chandragupta's hand, and finally when he is astride his horse, and is looking at her with the faintest trace of a smug smile before riding off. The only extra she bothers to tack on to the afore-mentioned wide-eyed stare is a tic, of pressing down on her lower lip. This too is a staple.

Methinks Swetha must be a classical dancer. On the stage, the dancer has to project emotions with great emphasis, so that the facial expressions are visible even from the last rows of the theatre. But if the same OTT style is adopted in cinema, the results are bound to look forced. Which is what her attempt at projecting the roudhra rasa after that tumble off the horse looked like, with eyes looking as if they had been forced open and clamped in position.

No nuances were to be seen thereafter either. That was not only because the young man - whose thoughtful gesture of saving her from that wimpish lizard she had reciprocated with a solid slap (now that was well executed, full of vim and vigour, and with an excellent forearm swing and follow up actionšŸ‘) - had unleashed some primitive rage of his own, and was squeezing her jaw as hard as he could, not letting go even after she had sunk her pearly whites into the crook of his palm. As of now, apni Nandini is like that only, she believes in a decided economy of expression.

Ha ha nandhini was shocked that a lizard dared climb her dress mahapadmanand's daughters dress and did not know what to react. Poor chandra all are hitting him only. His dad always hit him while saving mom, chankya to save his drama slapped chandra 4 times in front of malekeytu then once in past episode, then nanda is whipping him finally nandini slapped him. What is this all are after poor chandu? I guess they all want him to get used to pain no it will be useful in war field in future. But great things are achieved by people who see lot of pain as kids and young adults usually, take any great man he has had a rough childhood or young adulthood be it lincoln, gandhi, CGM, akbar or shivaji all had a tough childhood or adulthood life.



Natural reactions: And no, nothing of what she does all thru the episode, from rushing at him in the anthahpura to biting him a an attempt to get free, has anything to do with any wild passion for this bahuroopiya burgeoning inside her all unbeknownst to herself. It is all exactly what any young girl who is not a wilting lily would have done under the prevailing circumstances, right down to trying to take a chunk off the chap who seems bent on dislocating her jaw. šŸ˜†

One more point. I see that some here have been blaming Nandini for not having managed to free herself even before they rode out of the palace gates; she is a fighter, they insist, for whom this should have been a chutki ki baat, but she had fallen down on the job. This is illogical. Nandini is good at fencing and archery, but that does not make her a pro at jijutsu, which is what she would have needed to get out her captor's iron grip.


Stupid girl nandini, all she had to do was sink her teeth into chandraguptas hand or face and off he would have left her not in pain but in šŸ˜‰ Aunty mark my words chandra will be soft on her after marriage its she who will act like tigress for killing her family especially papa maha nanda. Chandra will understand her pain of losing whole family as he also had lost his at birth(though mura was alive) and be sympathetic mostly. I think mura will become devil in parda mom in law or will it be chandra's daddy dearest? Or will they introduce some dhuradhara to trouble her?


Silent smouldering: As for Chandragupta, he is oscillating between undoubted satisfaction at his having pulled off a daring escape regardless of the machinations of this harpy he has been forced to lug along, and irritation at her successful efforts to unseat them both. Besides, he is totally unfamiliar with young women, and is unsure of how to handle this wildcat he has been saddled with. For she displays her feline traits even before she bites him!

Kya museebat mol liya hai maine! Iska abhi ky karein? , he must be muttering to himself, as he considers her with barely veiled irritation in his now almost coal black eyes. There is no real anger in them, for he now feels on top in the game he has been playing, having forced the Magadha Samrat and all his minions to stand by helplessly while he rode off with his khul jaa sim sim talisman of a princess.

He says nothing because he cannot think of anything to the point to say, and in any case, he is not given to speaking much, indeed not at all if he can help it.

I do not know why he pulls the dupatta off to dislodge the lizard, but it was probably the sort of thing he would have done with a boy, and he is not well versed in the niceties governing dealings with unfamiliar young women. Which is why the unmerited slap angers him so much, and almost calls forth a counter slap. He remembers the stree par prahaar varjit hai just in time, but he is now not of a mind, after all she has done to trip him since their duel under more benign circumstances, to let her go scot free. So he adopts a median line and squeezes her mouth and jaw shut with savage retaliatory force.

That was most inappropriate, cannot chandra just push off lizard from her duppatta. Nandini obivously was wild any girl would be at that situation. I disagree aunty that chandra has no woman connection, he was brought up by a woman, he is not jungle book mogwli. I did not like the way he rejected nandhini hand in sabha, that was also a bit too much audacity and ego talk. Did not chandra have girl friends in childhood to play with he would have had, so how he does not know what is fine and not to behave with a girl forget princess a girl. After marriage nandhini will have to civilize him on how to treat girls. Even his holding the jaw was very bad, she is a girl it must have hurt a lot more as girls are delicate. He is not holding an enemy warriors jaw, a delicate girls jaw


Soon, this becomes less of a payback for her behaviour and more of a preventive measure, as he hears the sound of the horses of the posse that he realises is after them. He has to keep her from yelling and alerting them before he is ready.

So he presses even harder, and not even the bite makes him relax his hold on her jaw in the slightest. In fact, the pain of it does not even seem to register with him, so intent is he on the sounds of the search party, and ont thinking out his next moves.

When he has thought them thru, he junks this tiresome wildcat of a female with a hard shove that sends her reeling, while he gets ready to scale the rocky outcrop and activate his plan of escape.

Atlast nandini showed some brain to bite him, alas he did not release her. Some tears would have done the job the bite could not?šŸ˜‰ nandini is dumb girl does not know how to use the most effective womans tool tears 😭 in time of crisis šŸ˜†šŸ˜². Few drops and chandra would be drooping and begging her sorry's and would have gone bac and left her in her palace. But this nandhini is more manly and believes in biting for bullet rather than tears for freedom


Chemistry? Kahaan? In all of this, there is not even a smidgen of any kind of attraction in him towards the girl - physical, mental, emotional, whatever. How could there be , in this situation? He looks at her as if she was a tiresome imposition, plus an unpredictable wildcat he has to keep a wary eye on all the time, not as if she was someone he was falling for. šŸ˜‰

And in any case, all this is unknown territory for Chandragupta, who is not going to be swept away by the budding of the divine passion just because he has received a solid bite!

Nor does he lick off the bite because he is somehow intoxicated by this commingling of their concerned bodily fluidsšŸ˜†. Boys lick away all sorts of wounds, from cuts to bruises, that they acquire while playing or fighting or whatever, and their standard operating procedure is to rub the wound with dust and saliva.

As for the very faint smile on his face when he is astride the horse and is about to ride off, it says only one thing. You can rave and rant all you want, you jungli billi, and your precious father as well, but I will get my own back regardless. So watch out! While Nandini stands there in impotent anger, huffing and puffing like a tea kettle on the gas ring. šŸ˜†

So, sorry, all the incurable romantics and passion-seekers in the forum, but to me at least, the Chadragupta-Nandini chemistry column is, right now, a blank. I am sure , however, that if you all hang in there and possess your collective souls in patience, the green liquid in the retort will start bubbling and boiling in due course, and will also change colour to a rich red, the colour of, what else, passion!!šŸ˜‰

Aunty, that is whole idea of story, these two are enemies forced in marriage by chankya who plays agony aunt for both finally and gets them married. Ok chandra has chankya to convince him to marry nandhini, but what makes nandini marry him may be revenge of family? Lets see


The real chemistry: This is not the one between Chandragupta and Nandini, but between the shishya and his guru. Between Chandragupta and Chanakya.

They do not need words to communicate , nor do they need to explain anything to each other. They are almost symbiotic, united in an instinctive, mute understanding that is far stronger than any verbalization. And there is an emotional bond between them that has grown and taken root, all of Chanakya's assertions to the contrary notwithstanding. This is evident in so many ways.

As Malayaketu is complaining about Chandragupta, Chanakya is walking up and down the room at a phenomenal pace. He, normally so phlegmatic and unmoved by any disaster, is now clearly on edge, because he is deeply worried about Chandragupta, Not just about his success or failure in his mission but about the deadly danger he must have been in after having been, as Malayaketu's tirade makes clear, exposed as a fraud.

Yep this anxiety makes him slap chandra four times too,its not to show malekeyu he punished chandra for stealing his identity. Chankya must have been worried for chandras safety and long wait made him go mad with worry and all the slaps were like saying chandra why so late? i died in tension many times awaiting your return


Again, as Chandragupta, having quietly waited till Malayaketu is well and truly gone, raises his eyes, for once, to those of his mentor, proffers the map of the Pataliputa palace that he has prepared, and then lowers his eyes once more, Chanakya's expression is a study.

His face and his eyes are aglow with so much pride and so much vatsalya for this boy wonder of his that no one, having seen him at that moment, could ever say henceforth that for Chanakya, Chandragupta is just a peerless weapon with which to fulfil his plans, and nothing more. He loves this boy, whom he has nurtured and shaped, like the son he would have wanted to have. And by now, Chandragupta knows this too.

That explains how he, despite his total samarpan to his mentor, does not hesitate to voice the disappointment he feels when the precious maanchitra - which he has prepared with so much effort and after running so many deadly risk - is first declared to be now useless, and is then reduced to ashes by Chanakya. It is equally noteworthy that the guru does not shut him up by demanding unquestioning obedience. He explains the reason why the plan has now been overtaken by events thanks to Amatya Rakshas, and also that it cannot be allowed to lie around and perhaps fall into the wrong hands.

The two of them, mentor and pupil, are now a perfectly attuned, smoothly working team. So when he is informed that their next move would be to contact Raja Purushottam , aka Porus, of the Pauravas (whose kingdom lay between the Jhelum and the Chenab rivers), Chandragupta has no questions. He immediately starts internalizing this new information, and behind his lowered brows, one can practically see the wheels of his brain starting to rev up.

All that effort in waste, poor chandra. anyway he had free trip to nandhini darshan. I think chandra will kidnap nandhini and will fall for her, after all he has had no girl sangat so far. But nandhini hate him and finally when she falls for him he sends her back to daddy. Then war takes place and nandhini shocked her lover is her family killer then hate starts. There is no hate without passion. Only if you have expectations of a man and he does not fulfill it there comes hate, vengence etc. Like sibling rivalary, spouse divorce etc goes to extreme because initially there was unconditional love and passion involved


The precap seems to hint at a plan of Chanakya's to kidnap Nandini, whom Chandragupta will of course identify as Padmanand's Achilles heel. He very likely intends to use her to neutralize Padmanand, and forceh im to go to war with the Macedonians, or to at least block their eastwards march, while he tries to do the same in the northwest thru Purushottam.

A curious point: Chanakya tells Malayaketu that he cannot leave for Pataliputa because there are still four months to go for his deeksha at the end of his studies in the gurukul. When he is complaining vociferously to Chanakya about Chandragupta's perfidy in stealing the invitation to the swayamwar, he says that this was his last day there, ie in the gurukul. It is then that Chandragupta arrives.

This means that for once, the to and fro journey from Takshashila to Pataliputra and back is shown as taking a realistic 4 months.


It could be that he threw out malikeytu from gurukul without course completion so maleyketu said i will take revenge na

OK, folks, this is it for now. Please do not forget to hit the Like button if you think that is warranted.

One more thing. I find that I simply cannot manage these daily episode analyses any more. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is, alas, weak! With my rheumatoid arthritis, I cannot cope with the amount of typing, nor can I spare the amount of time - over 6 hours daily - needed for me not just to write these analyses - which is the easier part - but to respond to all the comments. I am falling further and further behind with the latter, and feeling more and more guilty about it. In fact, I feel as if I am on a treadmill that is going faster and faster as I struggle to keep pace with it and not fall off. It is clearly time to for a change if I am to sustain this exercise.

So, from this week, I propose to do biweekly analyses, on Wednesdays and on Saturdays. This should be more manageable for me. I hope this will be OK with you as well.

So, see you all again next Wednesday, folks. Hasta la vista!

Shyamala/Aunty/Akka/Di

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I do agree with u that as of now,there's no chemistry, physics,biology between the leads.May be slowly they may develop everything. šŸ˜‰šŸ˜†
Please take care of urself, aunty
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanks a lot Shyamala akka for the beautiful write up as always. Your style of writing is so unique and wonderful. I am new to this forum as well as the forum in general. I see that a lot of people seem to enjoy your style of writing as much as I do.
Sorry to hear about your health. Please take care of yourself. Even though I will miss your daily write ups the wait for for Bi- weekly or weekly ones will make it the more sweeter.

Hugs to you hope you feel better soonšŸ¤—

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