So who is winning best actress this year? - Page 5

Originally posted by: wat_up

nah she’s not on the click it should be shraddhas year unless there is some reason jitesh as something against her or she don’t show up lol 😂 those writing essays on who should win should know Bollywood awards are a joke to begin with it’s all about networking and who knows who. Who attends or who doesn’t ? In case one is thinking that it’s about who truly deserves to win then smh in case some haven’t learnt that but I’m going with Shraddha to win because she had the highest grosser amongst the popular stars she had a huge base ( popularity is important on these awards) and she as gotten praise in her role and she was whom the posters and promotions were based on.

Like you said, it's more about politics and inside connections on who agrees to attend and perform rather than who actually deserves it. A huge base of fans doesn't mean much because Alia has never had that but she has 5 Filmfares.

I've never seen Filmfare being all that crazy about Shraddha since she only has one Best Actress nomination. I do think Stree 2's success will get her a nomination here but I really doubt it'll be a win. Filmfare has a clear bias for certain actresses and nothing indicates that Jitesh would award Shraddha.

Highest grossing also doesn't win acting awards. Otherwise Deepika would have won for Pathaan last year. Preity would have won for Veer-Zaara over Rani for Hum Tum. Madhuri would have won for Khalnayak over Juhi in Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke. Karishma wouldn't have won for Zubeidda and Rani wouldn't have won for Black. And so on.

Originally posted by: cougarTown

Tbh those were some very meh performances. I don't see any FF bashing for not nominating katrina for movies like JTHJ (which was massively criticized esp for her acting) or movies like Bharat, tiger etc..where was the acting even? In fact FF nominated her for another meh performance in NY just because she happened to move some facial muscles over the absolutely brilliant koko in WUS..i mean katrina is the last person to be snubbed coz baring 2/3 movies her acting has been so bad and for those 2/3 movies she got nominated and praised..don't think anyone did her dirty considering her super limited craft..that being said..i do feel she deserves a nomination for MC but again def not deserving to win

P.S: if IIFA nominated her for Singh is king as best actress then i end the discussion here..

The ones who FF did dirty are actually tabu '& urmila and you pretty much wrote later what I wanted to say..how come these brilliant actresses have no FF best actress..thats just beyond biased &' unfair

I think Katrina gets overcriticized for her acting. I'm not saying she's an amazing thespian but it seems like people like to hate on her acting even when she delivers good or great performances. The stigma about her acting reputation is unfortunately too strong to combat at this point. I don't think she was bad in JTHJ at all. And she was even better in Ek Tha Tiger. Deepika is a better actress than Katrina but Katrina had better performances in the Tiger films than Deepika had in Pathaan, but Deepika is the one who got the Filmfare nomination.

I do think something Sonam said about being beautiful counts against you in this industry as you're not considered a good actor is true. Sonam meant it for herself, and I don't think it applies to her, but there's countless examples in BW and HW where actors are dismissed as being only looks and no talent.

Katrina has more nominations with other award shows like the Screen Awards. She won a popular choice award for Raajneeti/Tees Maar Khan and a second popular award for Ek Tha Tiger/Jab Tak Hai Jaan. Also had a Best Actress nomination (not the popular award) for Bharat. At Zee Cine, she got a Best Actress nomination for Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara. So it's not that she hasn't been receiving nominations for her films, but when it comes to Filmfare and IIFA, she doesn't tend to get much recognition.

Urmila has spoken openly about being snubbed by awards because she's not a nepokid and didn't work with big banners. Some of her performances, in films like Tehzeeb and Pinjar, were flat out ignored. Tehzeeb was from the same director/writer who did Fiza and Zubeidaa. Karishma won the Filmfare for Fiza and the Filmfare Critics for Zubeidaa but Urmila wasn't even nominated, to show you the bias against her. The funny thing is that Urmila was the original choice for Fiza but if she had done it, I doubt she would have been awarded as Karishma was.

Manisha does have one Best Actress popular award from Filmfare but it's for Filmfare South. All her Filmfare awards from the regular Filmfare are the critics awards. In fact, it was the movie Bombay which Manisha won the Best Actress popular award from Filmfare South and she won the Best Actress critics award for that same performance at Filmfare.

Originally posted by: RaniPreityAish

I don't think Tabu will even be in the conversation this year. And like you said, she doesn't really need it at this point especially as she's returning to do HW work on a global scale. She's never been in the mainstream Bollywood circle and that's the group that seems more interested in awards. She seems rather above and beyond all that at this point. Not sure how big her role will be in the Dune TV show but if anything, she could be an Emmy award contender.

They already tried that with PR, ignoring Kriti and Tabu, and claiming that Bebo was responsible for Crew's success alone...ignoring that Crew made only slightly more than TBMAUJ which if anything, implied that it was Kriti boosting both movies. Bebo's "starpower" was evident by Buckingham Murders, a box office disaster that was actually beaten at the box office by the re-release of Tumbbad, a film with no A-Listers.

I've also seen BB3 now and I doubt Vidya or Madhuri will get nominations, although it's not entirely impossible. But they won't be Best Actress nominations for sure. I think Madhuri was billed as a special appearance because she's only in the second half of the movie or because she's such a huge star that giving her such little screentime is only justified if she's billed as a special appearance. Maybe it was something she asked for herself to keep her superstar image.

Vidya actually talked about not getting a Filmfare nomination for the first BB. How she was told that since it was a film remake, it wasn't eligible for a nomination. I find that very suspicious though because Aamir and Asin did Ghajini, which was a remake, and both got award nominations. Maybe because Asin was in the original, she was allowed to get a nomination for reprising the role but Aamir wasn't in the original Ghajini and he still got a Best Actor nod. So it doesn't make sense why Vidya wasn't allowed to get a nomination for starring in a remake.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/vidya-balan-on-not-getting-nominated-for-bhool-bhulaiyaa-manjulika-my-father-felt-very-bad-101730090548950.html

The film reviews weren't unanimously crazy about Do Aur Do Pyaar but Vidya's performance was fairly lauded, moreso than the film. And Vidya generally has gotten Filmfare nominations for performances or films that weren't super well received like Shakuntala Devi. Even her Tumhari Sulu win, many people felt was unnecessary.

I am happy for Tabu. The career she has carved for herself in an industry that is inherently sexist and ageist is commendable. I would love to see more of her on global platform. She certainly has the caliber and talent to that.

I don't think nominations for "remakes" should be a big issue. It's sad that Vidya was not nominated in the popular category for BB1. I mean Shahid was nominated for Kabir Singh and that's just once example I can think of, and I am sure there are many others.

Shakuntala came out during Covid and there were anyways not much contendors. Tumhari Sulu was definitely an odd win. I mean it was good film/performance but I will forever be angry at Filmfare because they failed to recognize Sridevi for Mom that year.. It was a far superior performance and film than Tumhari Sulu.

Originally posted by: RaniPreityAish

I don't think Tabu will even be in the conversation this year. And like you said, she doesn't really need it at this point especially as she's returning to do HW work on a global scale. She's never been in the mainstream Bollywood circle and that's the group that seems more interested in awards. She seems rather above and beyond all that at this point. Not sure how big her role will be in the Dune TV show but if anything, she could be an Emmy award contender.

They already tried that with PR, ignoring Kriti and Tabu, and claiming that Bebo was responsible for Crew's success alone...ignoring that Crew made only slightly more than TBMAUJ which if anything, implied that it was Kriti boosting both movies. Bebo's "starpower" was evident by Buckingham Murders, a box office disaster that was actually beaten at the box office by the re-release of Tumbbad, a film with no A-Listers.

I've also seen BB3 now and I doubt Vidya or Madhuri will get nominations, although it's not entirely impossible. But they won't be Best Actress nominations for sure. I think Madhuri was billed as a special appearance because she's only in the second half of the movie or because she's such a huge star that giving her such little screentime is only justified if she's billed as a special appearance. Maybe it was something she asked for herself to keep her superstar image.

Vidya actually talked about not getting a Filmfare nomination for the first BB. How she was told that since it was a film remake, it wasn't eligible for a nomination. I find that very suspicious though because Aamir and Asin did Ghajini, which was a remake, and both got award nominations. Maybe because Asin was in the original, she was allowed to get a nomination for reprising the role but Aamir wasn't in the original Ghajini and he still got a Best Actor nod. So it doesn't make sense why Vidya wasn't allowed to get a nomination for starring in a remake.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/vidya-balan-on-not-getting-nominated-for-bhool-bhulaiyaa-manjulika-my-father-felt-very-bad-101730090548950.html

The film reviews weren't unanimously crazy about Do Aur Do Pyaar but Vidya's performance was fairly lauded, moreso than the film. And Vidya generally has gotten Filmfare nominations for performances or films that weren't super well received like Shakuntala Devi. Even her Tumhari Sulu win, many people felt was unnecessary.

Thats the 1st time i am hearing this..really..i highly doubt that coz so many people have won awards for movies which were remakes..but VB deserved some awards / recognition for BB1 for sure, she was so so good. FF gives awards to people who cannot dub for themselves but won't nominate VB for BB over it being a remake..thats just hilarious and i really doubt true..or else it be really bizarre

Originally posted by: diasingh2

I am happy for Tabu. The career she has carved for herself in an industry that is inherently sexist and ageist is commendable. I would love to see more of her on global platform. She certainly has the caliber and talent to that.

I don't think nominations for "remakes" should be a big issue. It's sad that Vidya was not nominated in the popular category for BB1. I mean Shahid was nominated for Kabir Singh and that's just once example I can think of, and I am sure there are many others.

Shakuntala came out during Covid and there were anyways not much contendors. Tumhari Sulu was definitely an odd win. I mean it was good film/performance but I will forever be angry at Filmfare because they failed to recognize Sridevi for Mom that year.. It was a far superior performance and film than Tumhari Sulu.

Same here. People have often asked why Tabu is the only one who's been able to sustain a career this long, especially in comparison to say Urmila or Manisha. I think what Tabu has that makes her different from the other two really is just the fact that she comes from a film family. She may not hang out with the Dharma/YRF gang, but she'll always be well-connected to BW. Urmila and Manisha don't have that. They're outsiders and have always been treated as such. Urmila's one connection is Manish Malhotra, but otherwise you can see how she's been more or less abandoned by the industry. Manisha early on turned to independent and art films and she's lucky that her talent got her a brief comeback in Heeramandi. We'll see if she's able to capitalize on that for future roles, otherwise her mainstream film roles were being reduced to playing mothers in Sanju and Shezhada. Manisha has also done some international cinema because I think it was easier for her to get cast in those roles than in any mainstream BW movies.

Yeah, I agree that this rule about no nominations for remakes sounds ridiculous and I don't even think it's true. You brought up the Kabir Singh nomination for Shahid so that's another exception. Even as far back as the early 80s, Sridevi got nominated for Sadma which was a remake. Granted, she did star in the original film and the remake, but I'm pretty sure whatever explanation they gave to Vidya to explain her snub was just a lie.

That's true about Shakuntala coming out during COVID. There's always been a Filmfare bias for Vidya so I think that could help her get another nomination this year, but it's not 100% guaranteed. I liked Vidya in Tumhari Sulu but I think Sridevi was also excellent in Mom. But between Sridevi's two comeback roles, I think English Vinglish was even more superior and should have swept all the awards. I know PC thinks that she unfairly lost out for Barfi, but I think Sridevi in EV was better than both PC in Barfi and Vidya in Kahaani.

Filmfare has never seemed too attached to Sridevi. It didn't help that two of her landmark films, Mr. India and Nagina, both came out during the years Filmfare wasn't running. She got one honorary award for both of them but she was never properly awarded imo. The National Film Awards are even worse (another reason I don't buy this argument that they're anymore prestigious or valid than Filmfare) as they never once bothered to give Sridevi even a nod, until after her death. Only when she was gone did they give her the National Award for Mom, probably cause they realized how bad it looked that such an icon was never awarded by them.

Originally posted by: cougarTown

Thats the 1st time i am hearing this..really..i highly doubt that coz so many people have won awards for movies which were remakes..but VB deserved some awards / recognition for BB1 for sure, she was so so good. FF gives awards to people who cannot dub for themselves but won't nominate VB for BB over it being a remake..thats just hilarious and i really doubt true..or else it be really bizarre

Yes, I think they lied to her. Vidya said this exactly.

"At that time, I was told that it's a remake of a Malayalam film so my performance wasn't eligible for a nomination. So I said, ‘Okay, fine.’"

In those early years of the industry, Vidya was heavily trolled and disliked for not being commercial enough an actress. There was definitely an agenda against her as she's explained how they tried to make a joke out of her at Filmfare and then Manish Malhotra started targeting her after she publicly stated that she felt he didn't dress her properly in movies. So I think they really just lied to make up an excuse on why she didn't get a nomination. They just didn't want to recognize her. It took her several years to earn some respect and credibility.

1. Originally posted by: Scarlet_Glow

   Kriti Sanon for TBMAUJ. I thought she was flawless in that role 😍

   I agree, it should have been theatrical release then she would have got all the awards.

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