Should spy verse be made after Tiger 3 underperformance? - Page 15

Originally posted by: CrimeMasterToto

Regardless of what you think about the quality of the movies, When the second and third movies are the hgoty and break a dozen BO records, that is hardly a failed or ruined franchise

It's hilarious how you are advocating for an underperforming T3 as being universally accepted and liked by neutral audience, and slinging mud on two of the biggest blockbusters of Bollywood in their time. If anything D2 and D3 were way more widely accepted by the audience than T3

dhoom 3 made money yes granted. Whereas a dangle to date by Amir is highly rated amongst audiences and Bajrangi bhaijaan, dabang 1 I’m taking movies 2010 and later and the tiger series and tiger 3 as higher ratings then the previous ones.

Dhoom 3 reviews and I Was active in the thread I can pull up other reviews too on other sites. Raja sen back then gave dhoom 3 a 1. I’m not saying that people did not go see it. I stayed my views and some others audiences and in the review thread most did not like it and many were Amir fans. And in other places the ratings low https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/bollywood/3853620/dhoom-3-reviews-and-bo-updates-closed

Originally posted by: wat_up

Dhoom 3 reviews and I. Was active in the thread I can pull up other reviews too on other sites. Raja sen back then gave dhoom 3 a 1. I’m not saying that people did not go see it. I stayed my views and some others audiences and in the review thread most did not like it and many were Amir fans. And in other places the ratings low https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/bollywood/3853620/dhoom-3-reviews-and-bo-updates-closed

It's not like T3 has any better reviews. Barring a couple of sites (Taran and one more), the reviews are average to below average. And there are hardly any neutrals who have watched T3 to even share their reviews. So memeber review comparison is pointless at this time

And the only way to judge the movie objectively is by numbers. You cannot have a big budget All time Blockbuster without the movie being accepted and watched by the audience.

Throwing shade on Dhoom series is not going to increase the ratings and box office of T3 🙄

Originally posted by: CrimeMasterToto

And the only way to judge the movie objectively is by numbers. You cannot have a big budget All time Blockbuster without the movie being accepted and watched by the audience.

Originally posted by: CrimeMasterToto

It's not like T3 has any better reviews. Barring a couple of sites (Taran and one more), the reviews are average to below average. And there are hardly any neutrals who have watched T3 to even share their reviews. So memeber review comparison is pointless at this time

And the only way to judge the movie objectively is by numbers. You cannot have a big budget All time Blockbuster without the movie being accepted and watched by the audience.

Throwing shade on Dhoom series is not going to increase the ratings and box office of T3 🙄

Getting to tiger 3 since 2017 I enjoyed his movie and wanted this one on Eid as it was planned or on other days but diwali. Im not the only one but neutrals whose reviews I have read in countless sites have the same sentiment and was similar to bajrangi Bhaijaan regarding salman and Katrina hasn’t gotten this much praise since 2017 in TZH and here she as excelled and every reviewer as said so.

The issue and complaint is it’s not patriotic and how can these two countries have peace yada yada. Had this been some other country the critics would not have said much. Also they want Salman todo what he had done in movies and that was to be larger than life. Here every character is given importance. Yes there things that one can improve on but that’s always the case with every movie. By point majority saying it’s better then Pathan as they saying story more coherent. Jawan is the movie that neutrals enjoying more then Pathan and I haven’t said anything on Jawan plus it’s not in the spyverse. Now you will talk on numbers etc.

Originally posted by: CrimeMasterToto

Was about to ask the same question

D2 and D3 were the highest grossers of the year in 2006 and 2013. Quality wise it might have gotten worse, but the series is anything but ruined with the ROI they got

D2 and D3 were highest grossers, but Tiger 3 isn’t going to be one and infact will earn less than its prequel so how’s the idea to make a universe a good idea unless all the following movies are at par business wise? Pathan’s success should have generated curiosity for Tiger 3 and the buzz should’ve been atleast somewhat like Pathan, the underperformance indicates that YRF should rethink their strategies and ofcourse wait for War 2 box office and then decide whether the universe should actually be beneficial, otherwise Tiger as a standalone franchise is successful so why ruin it.

I think tiger 3 footfalls will be higher then TZH only thing is budget TZH budget wasn’t high and only because they placed in srk cameo and the high octane scene with Pathan and Tiger in case that was not there then it be less but that’s yash raj problem but they not loosing a dime as they sign endorsement deals.

Sultan numbers were less Bajrangi Bhaijaan was less then TZH and I can compare these two as they in the same year and both got the same tag per Taran but Bajrangi bhaijaan got the ATBB tag everywhere

so budget comes into play regarding the tag. Plus years later with Boi they will change tags outta the blue. Krissh had the biggest controversy when it supposedly beat ce who beat 3I. Yet Boi did not the recognize them beating CE and Tarans numbers were much higher than Boi by a huge margin. Anyways Pk came and beat CE and Krissh 3. And their rumors on inflated numbers began. And in case anyone jumps on me I supported Krissh 3 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/bollywood/3793663/krrish-3-review-and-bo-thread-post-here

Originally posted by: MiVida_Messi

D2 and D3 were highest grossers, but Tiger 3 isn’t going to be one and infact will earn less than its prequel so how’s the idea to make a universe a good idea unless all the following movies are at par business wise? Pathan’s success should have generated curiosity for Tiger 3 and the buzz should’ve been atleast somewhat like Pathan, the underperformance indicates that YRF should rethink their strategies and ofcourse wait for War 2 box office and then decide whether the universe should actually be beneficial, otherwise Tiger as a standalone franchise is successful so why ruin it.

Sure, maybe. My point was more on people calling Dhoom series a failure and ruined.

You must remember though. Alot of the buzz for Pathaan was purely because of SRK and his long hiatus from the movies. It was the comeback movie of the year. There is no way T3 was going to match that craze.

There are both upsides and downsides to a third installment in a franchise. While it will have an existing set of fanbase from the first two movies, it will also have its existing set of non-fans who did not like the first two movies and would never step out to watch. So unless the content is fresh and offers something new, expecting the third installment to have a new set of fans going crazy for it is often not possible.

I also disagree with the idea that just because my sequels earned lesser money, the universe should be shelved. Iron man 2 earned less than IM1. Avengers 2 earned less than Avengers 1. Antman 2 was less than Antman 1. MCU se bada kya hi universe hoga which went through even though they put out some utterly mediocre movies in between such as IM3, Thor 2, etc.

The craze for a proper crossover between 2 or 3 spies will be at a different level, if it ever happens. These extended cameos will eventually stop working as well.

Originally posted by: wat_up

the ratings by audience is high I will show u proove as I know what is going on with T3 and even compare it with the ratings to the other tiger series. And my ur talks gardar 2 is a masterpiece it best pathan and that with a clash in india and it be higher then jawan were there no clash then why not the audience ratings high by the audience ? Between I like sunny paaji and no issues with Amir khan but I will speak my mind and will say numbers matter but that’s not the only standard. Getting to Salman and I said this since 2017 I did not enjoy his movies like I did but I saw them as I like seeing Salman onscreen so that’s the supporter in me but does not mean I enjoyed the movie it’s only him I enjoy.

Getting to tiger 3 since 2017 I enjoyed his movie and wanted this one on Eid as it was planned or on other days but diwali. Im not the only one but neutrals whose reviews I have read in countless sites have the same sentiment and was similar to bajrangi Bhaijaan regarding salman and Katrina hasn’t gotten this much praise since 2017 in TZH and here she as excelled and every reviewer as said so.

The issue and complaint is it’s not patriotic and how can these two countries have peace yada yada. Had this been some other country the critics would not have said much. Also they want Salman todo what he had done in movies and that was to be larger than life. Here every character is given importance. Yes there things that one can improve on but that’s always the case with every movie. By point majority saying it’s better then Pathan as they saying story more coherent. Jawan is the movie that neutrals enjoying more then Pathan and I haven’t said anything on Jawan plus it’s not in the spyverse. Now you will talk on numbers etc.

You find me a reliable source of audience rating first and I will respond to your theories (I don't think it exists)

And you are again throwing shade to another movie; Gadar2. It literally worked based on fantastic WOM. How do you generate great WOM without having good content. Are you seriously claiming that G2 was less like by the audience as compared to T3 ? I have no issues accepting that G2 was more liked than Pathaan

Originally posted by: CrimeMasterToto

You find me a reliable source of audience rating first and I will respond to your theories (I don't think it exists)

And you are again throwing shade to another movie; Gadar2. It literally worked based on fantastic WOM. How do you generate great WOM without having good content. Are you seriously claiming that G2 was less like by the audience as compared to T3 ? I have no issues accepting that G2 was more liked than Pathaan