Aishu's clever reply :) - Page 5

You made the effort after mths of lurking all this time to make an ID and to comment on MY post? .. really I am flattered.

logical fallacy in my arguments? Every single one of your points, from lalit being a fugitive, to sush defeating aish in the hierarchy of beauty queenship thus proving she is the real queen.. to aish having an established rep of her inappropriate giggling, and lack of depth and substance during interviews, to aish not knowing salman had a terrible reputation prior to hooking up with him.. what's that? You are delusional and you don't know enough about aish, so why bother making an ID for her to come and defend her..?

.. so logically you are an MID that really wanted to engage with me.

I only feel sorry for aish that she has an incapable MID defending her, and that it is you.

Women regularly USE successful men to get ahead.. she traded herself for $$$ and a career in bollywood.. everyone knew what a scum salman was.. so .....she is hardly a victim.

Anyway back to you... I hope this was everything you dreamed of for the past 10 years...

Print it and frame it.. its the last message to you under this MID. Can't promise it won't be the last to you under another MID. Fake ppl like you will make another MID to engage.. oh fake just like your aish.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

I have a better question for you. How did the abused Indian women who heard Aish say this feel? They should stay in their abusive circumstances to save Indian pride?

How is INDIAN PRIDE being prioritized before the safety and rights of INDIAN WOMEN any different from the Log Kya Kahenge attitude of women's families which keep them trapped in terrible situations?

How many beaten, raped, and killed women will it take for society to say enough is enough?

Gimme Mallika Sherawat any day. Speak the damn truth and don't be a mealy-mouthed hypocrite.

Who said anything about East or West being better? Sorry... that's just insecurity speaking about faults being pointed out. How about saying we both have our own problems to deal with and ways to go before achieving equality?

how would they feel hearing Aish say this can be a discussion. They should only feel bad is she condemned it. But saying something can be a discussion is neither condemning divorces nor condoning them.
Again everything you mentioned can be a part of that discussion. You clearly missed my first post on page 3.

Thirdly, it is not like abusive marriages do not exist in the west. With divorce rates being at an all time high. And how do we know some of the divorces aren’t just because a couple has gotten bored of each other after a few years and now want to look for spice somewhere else. I have seen that happen. You are really looking at this in an one dimensional situation. Still Aish never answered in the positive or negative.

I didn’t mean this to end up being an east versus west fight. But the framing how does the east view women in the west is very suggestive. At bold that is exactly what I stated in my first paragraph, in the post you just quoted, you just rephrased it. Each culture has its plus and minus. Once again that would also be mentioned in a discussion, but the problem was she didn’t have all the time in the interview to keep discussing divorce and women’s rights in each country.

Go look at my post on page three. It can be a discussion could be interpreted in a million different ways. She could have very well meant east hold morals dearly but women are held to a higher standard. She could not have meant that. But it can mean so much more than the way you are interpreting it. That is also a possible interpretation. But like I said innocent until proven guilty. It is better to assume best intentions than the worst in others.

Originally posted by: Grumpydwarf24

how would they feel hearing Aish say this can be a discussion. They should only feel bad is she condemned it. But saying something can be a discussion is neither condemning divorces nor condoning them.
Again everything you mentioned can be a part of that discussion. You clearly missed my first post on page 3.

Thirdly, it is not like abusive marriages do not exist in the west. With divorce rates being at an all time high. And how do we know some of the divorces aren’t just because a couple has gotten bored of each other after a few years and now want to look for spice somewhere else. I have seen that happen. You are really looking at this in an one dimensional situation. Still Aish never answered in the positive or negative.

I didn’t mean this to end up being an east versus west fight. But the framing how does the east view women in the west is very suggestive. At bold that is exactly what I stated in my first paragraph, in the post you just quoted, you just rephrased it. Each culture has its plus and minus. Once again that would also be mentioned in a discussion, but the problem was she didn’t have all the time in the interview to keep discussing divorce and women’s rights in each country.

Go look at my post on page three. It can be a discussion could be interpreted in a million different ways. She could have very well meant east hold morals dearly but women are held to a higher standard. She could not have meant that. But it can mean so much more than the way you are interpreting it. That is also a possible interpretation. But like I said innocent until proven guilty. It is better to assume best intentions than the worst in others.

They *should* only feel bad if Aish stated so in so many words? No. What most will hear is Indian culture = no divorce. Value of marriage! Family! Indian pride!

Unequivocal answer, IF she chose to answer at all, should've been walking out of abusive marriages should be made as easy as possible for women. Anything less is terrible. However, better to think long and hard before marrying instead jumping to divorce over something trivial.

There is only one dimension to abuse. It shouldn't happen. It shouldn't be supported. Ignoring it or sweeping it under the carpet in the name of family pride or national pride is tantamount to supporting it.

No way. No how.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

They *should* only feel bad if Aish stated so in so many words? No. What most will hear is Indian culture = no divorce. Value of marriage! Family! Indian pride!

Unequivocal answer, IF she chose to answer at all, should've been walking out of abusive marriages should be made as easy as possible for women. Anything less is terrible. However, better to think long and hard before marrying instead jumping to divorce over something trivial.

There is only one dimension to abuse. It shouldn't happen. It shouldn't be supported. Ignoring it or sweeping it under the carpet in the name of family pride or national pride is tantamount to supporting it.

No way. No how.

Aish did not say so in so many words or one word or no words. What she said had no definite implication that divorce is bad. Like I said, "that can be a discussion" can be interpreted in various different ways. She could very well have meant exactly how you wanted her to answer. Indian culture is narrow-minded when it comes to divorce thus abused women are forced to stay in abusive relationships.

About Indian pride. In this specific interview, she did not fear to speak the bitter truth about Indians when specifically asked about an issue. Watch the interview and see how she answered when she discussed the preference given to fair skin. There she was asked specifically about fair skin preference and she answered honestly. She did not get asked about abusive relationships.,

Abuse might be one-dimensional. But divorce has several dimensions to it. And no one thinks of divorce only in the context of abuse. For example, my relatives are at a funeral today. It is the mother of a woman who is very well-educated but was stuck in an abusive marriage for years. My parents and my aunts and uncles always encouraged her to walk out of that marriage. However, (shssh.. ) do they still have opinions about certain people in the west who opt for divorce for not very justifiable reasons at all. Yes, they do. Again abuse might be one-dimensional. But Aish was asked about divorce which has several different dimensions. Blaming her because she refused to view divorce only through an abusive relationship lens, I do not think is fair.

She in fairness should think about every single factor when it comes to divorce. That is why it can be a discussion is fair. Because even trivial reasons for divorce and abuse are not the only things that are important in a discussion. There is also how to move forward in a way that is healthy for all parties involved including children.

LMAO

Did Aishu think she was in a movie? What’s with all those vixen type expressions?😆

Anywhooo…what an apsara