SRK's career without KJo and YRF - what would it be? - Page 7

Originally posted by: Clochette

Thanks for your suggestion, Guddu. I was a bit weary of the repeated statements that SRK would be "nothing" without the work he had done with KJo and YRF, that's why I dared to make a thread about. I like the thread title you suggest (it is far better 😊 ). If you yourself don't want to do it, then (maybe) I will do it some time or someone else can do it 😊.

SRK fans hate me, so it's better you or any other fan can make it.

@HearMeRoar

LOL! Amitabh has big hits with Prakash Mehra, Yash Chopra, Shakti Samanta, Ramesh Sippy, Yash Johar, Tinnu Anand, Mukul Anand, Hrishikesh Mukherjee etc too. Not just Manmohan Desai.

So comparison is entirely misplaced.

Aamir gave hits with flop directors and previously less known directors or less bigshot production houses. Raja Hindustani, Ghajini and 3 Idiots are first ATBBs of their respective directors, production houses.

Salman, Sunny Deol gave big hits with even less known directors and PHs. Sunny had an ATBB like Gadar from a totally flop director like Anil Sharma and no bigshot production house.

Not the same case with SRK.

How many huge grossers or overseas hits he has without YRF and Dharma is there for anyone to see. Also how many hits he has beyond romantic roles is also there for anyone to see. Even his villainous roles are basically obsessed or jilted stalker type one sided lovers.

KKHH, Kal Ho na Ho, K3G, MNIK are Dharma films.

Ra One and MNIK were not clean hits. They are given this tag now after adding all earnings from rights and overseas. Kind of same hit tag as Brahmastra.

Why leave out Dharma and also fact that K3G, KKHH, KHNH are multi starrers? Darr, DTPH are also multi starrers. 2 heroine or 2 hero flicks, foreign locations and big PH.

Pardes is a solo starrer. How many more films are solo hits?

OSO, MHN, CDI relied on his star power. Karan Arjun is multi starrer. DDLJ is solo vehicle but YRF film.

Forget YRF and Dharma, I wonder how many hits he would have without repeating jodi with Kajol.

Baazigar, DDLJ, K3G, KKHH, Dilwale, Karan Arjun, MNIK all reliant on Kajol jodi factor. He even brings other stars for special appearance to make film more watchable like multi starrer song in OSO or Kajol, Bipasha, Rani song in RNBDJ, Kajol and Rani in KHNH song.

How many other actors rely on one specific jodi with actress or multiple special appearances by other stars?

Also how many hits beyond lover boy (jilted or ideal lover)?

Yash Chopra must have been a really bad father🥺......Imagine making a complete outsider a superstar while his own son...his own flesh and blood....Uday Chopra couldn't move forward except a few movies and finally did a side role in the Dhoom series....My heart breaks for Uday ....imagine having such a bad Dad and now even the older brother is no good...🥺

Who does that to their own family??

Not for Aamir or others at all.

Aamir has mostly worked for small banners or medium banners or flop directors and hardly repeats directors.

Inder Kumar, Mansoor (his cousin), Ashutosh Gowariker, Raju Hirani are the only directors Aamir ever repeated.

Ashutosh was flop director until Lagaan. John Matthew Matthan was new when Aamir did Sarfarosh with him. Dharmesh Darshan was flop/average but Aamir gave ATBB Raja Hindustani with him. Vikram Bhatt was new when Aamir did Ghulam with him. Rakesh Mehra had flop Aks behind him when Aamir did RDB with him. 3 Idiots is first ATBB of Hirani's career. Farhan was new when Aamir did DCH with him. RGV was still trying to find feet in BW when Aamir did Rangeela with him. Ghajini is first ATBB of AR Murugadoss' career.

Sunny Deol gave an ATBB like Gadar with a flop guy like Anil Sharma.

Amitabh has given hits with everyone from Hrishikesh Mukherjee, Shakti Samanta, Manmohan Desai to Yash Chopra, Mukul Anand, Ramesh Sippy, Deven Verma etc.

He never relied on 2 or one banners or directors or even a particular jodi as he would give hits with everyone be it Rekha or Parveen or Sridevi or Meenakshi or Dharam or Vinod or Shashi or Rishi.

Salman too has given big hits with newbies like Abhinav Kashyap in Dabangg and never relied on just Rajshris. Sooraj was new though when Salman did MPK with him.

With due respect, Dharma was always a respectable PH and worked with biggest stars like Amitabh, Zeenat, Shatrughan Sinha, Mithun etc when Yash Johar was spearheading it. It did not become a known name only after SRK worked with them.

One can debate about talent or abilities of Karan Johar but one can never say big stars did not work with Dharma prod earlier.

Karan seems to have learnt a lot from Adi Chopra and Yash Chopra and modeled Dharma along lines of YRF. His clear attempt to copy YRF and Chopras reflects in his films and choice of stars, music and interactions with media. The wannabe Chopra stamp is all over Karan's work except that Chopras were low key irl and Karan is this diva who is overexposed in media as an anchor, social commentator, social butterfly, gossip king and reality show judge.

More than SRK, I feel Chopra stamp and copying them has made Karan take Dharma to higher levels than his dad. SRK of course has a hand and so do Kajol, Big B and Rani in making Karan films so big.

Bachchans have also worked a lot with him due to friendly relations with his dad Yash Johar. Abhishek, Jaya, Amitabh, Ash, no one refused his films. He gets pick of big stars and star kid families be it Hrithik, Saif or Bebo. His family already had that network so it would not be too fair to say only SRK made K Jo.

SRK made Farah Khan though. Otherwise there is NO way a choreographer could turn into a successful director despite her utterly crap filmmaking skills. SRK gave her star power for her films. Even if it meant risking his own credibility with fluffy films when tide ws turning in favour of content oriented films.

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

Yash Chopra must have been a really bad father🥺......Imagine making a complete outsider a superstar while his own son...his own flesh and blood....Uday Chopra couldn't move forward except a few movies and finally did a side role in the Dhoom series....My heart breaks for Uday ....imagine having such a bad Dad and now even the older brother is no good...🥺

Who does that to their own family??

Interesting angle, but YRF-PH was focused more in the BRAND of it's name.

Uday would've been encouraged to help with the operations also.

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

Yash Chopra must have been a really bad father🥺......Imagine making a complete outsider a superstar while his own son...his own flesh and blood....Uday Chopra couldn't move forward except a few movies and finally did a side role in the Dhoom series....My heart breaks for Uday ....imagine having such a bad Dad and now even the older brother is no good...🥺

Who does that to their own family??

I am wondering, while he was doing everything for Shah, why didn't he leave YRF to him? I mean he would have handled it better than Aditya and it's not like Yash Chopra loved his kids, the sole purpose of his life was building the brand "SRK".

Imagine, FingerFetish lighting "Silsila ye chaahat ka" for Uday Chopra

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Imagine, FingerFetish lighting "Silsila ye chaahat ka" for Uday Chopra

It would take a long day in hell for me to even entertain the idea. 😆

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

Yash Chopra must have been a really bad father🥺......Imagine making a complete outsider a superstar while his own son...his own flesh and blood....Uday Chopra couldn't move forward except a few movies and finally did a side role in the Dhoom series....My heart breaks for Uday ....imagine having such a bad Dad and now even the older brother is no good...🥺

Who does that to their own family??

Sarcasm acha use kar lete ho aap to defend 😆