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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: vijay

I am commenting here cause I know both Riva and her mother. In my limited interactions with her she is an intelligent girl and she knows what she is doing and is passionate about making a career in acting.

Firstly she is certainly not 12 and is 16 year old and will turn 17 in 3-4 months. People calling her 12 just cause IMDb / Google says so and I can tell for sure that it is wrong and it will be corrected in due course.


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It makes me sick to read some of the insensitive and wild accusations which I do not want to repeat in my post again. If you do not know don't make baseless accusations.


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Thank you 🙏

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Your career as a programmer etc is different thing.

Career as an actor or model is also different.

It would be no issue if girl was doing age appropriate content or work like say, acting as a student in shows like Hip Hip Hurray with kids of her age.

It is problematic when minor is sexualized too much and acts with men way older than her. She may not be 12 but even 16 is too young to sexualize or objectify someone or act with someone way older than her, showing her as some romantic interest.

In long run these things have negative effect on mental health of such artistes and also promote objectification and grooming of minors and may give impetus to potential pedophiles and groomers who target minors anyway in real life or give inappropriate ideas to minors of impressionable age that it is okay to be with older men (teens are hormonal mess anyway).

Please do not compare acting or suggestive dresses or make up or scenes and dances to a non sexualized or non glam activity like sports or entrepreneurship.

I apologise for anything offensive or inappropriate in my posts or others'. But we have a certain POV and there is a reason why this caused backlash or concern.

2 years ago a 16 YO Tik Tok star had committed suicide due to cheap messages she got online on her account. There are legit risks involved at that vulnerable age and stage of life, especially if a child is exposed to public and is sort of sexualized and glamourised beyond her age.

Riva's mom and family need to be cautious. Others are not harassing or trolling them for heck of it. People have concerns for a reason.

Sridevi has had her share of trouble when she started young and she, Rekha, Neetu had publicly shared how they lost their childhoods or would not like their daughters to go through it at young age or how they saw a dark side of industry at an age when they understood nothing or realised later what had been said or done to them (refer Rekha's interview with Simi in Rendezvous). So, I beg to differ here, but examples of actresses who started off too young or acted opposite men way older than them, are not always positive. Rekha was even forcibly kissed by a much older actor without her knowledge, when she was a teen. And was made a laughing stock. It hurt her a lot then. Let's not downplay real issues artistes face and how their vulnerability and innocence can be exploited at young age. Concerns raised by a section of online users are valid, even if they have probably not assessed her age right.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Almost hard to believe the justification I’m reading. 12 or 16, the girl is still underage and being sexualised (with her mother’s full permission). Just because something was the norm some 20-40 years ago, doesn’t mean it’s ok if it happens today.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: vijay

I am commenting here cause I know both Riva and her mother. In my limited interactions with her she is an intelligent girl and she knows what she is doing and is passionate about making a career in acting.

Firstly she is certainly not 12 and is 16 year old and will turn 17 in 3-4 months. People calling her 12 just cause IMDb / Google says so and I can tell for sure that it is wrong and it will be corrected in due course.


Secondly treat Acting also as a profession just like any other profession Sports, Tech, Medical etc. Yes it's more glamorous but the setup today is much more professional compared to the past.


And as I understand, many want to cast her in movies / music videos or promotions etc cause she is an actress and is a popular social media influencer with over 8.5mn followers just on Instagram and around 900K subscribers on Youtube. It's not very new trend and that is why we see so many social media stars featured in music videos in the past.

It makes me sick to read some of the insensitive and wild accusations which I do not want to repeat in my post again. If you do not know don't make baseless accusations.


I saw the "controversial" video clip with Karan Kundra. The only objection of mine would be to showcase "alcohol" in the shot even though it was clearly mentioned in her post that it was not real and just for show.


On the larger debate I want to ask is she the only one who has been paired onscreen with much older male actors?


Sridevi (born 1963) first role as a teen-adult came in 1976 at age 13 (as per WikiPedia), when she was cast in the Tamil film Moondru Mudichu played the love interest of Rajnikant (born 1950) and Kamal Hasan (Born 1954).

Tamannah Bhatia was 15 when she got her first romantic movie Chaand Sa Roshan Chehra. If one researches you will find many more examples.


It's easy for people to suggest that people should be 18 first. Many of the actors who made it big have started early in life. Not all have the luxury of being launched by their parents connection in the industry at the "right" age with the "right" hero.


I can relate to her cause I too had an unconventional start to my career. I am a self taught computer programmer. I started doing odd freelancing web projects work when I was 14/15 year of age. At age 17 burnt my fingers in running computer education business. Started working full time for a startup at 18 while still in college and I purely got it just because of past work experience and was very fortunate to be paid higher than some of the IITians in the company.


Everyone has their own journey and struggles and we do not know unless we are in their shoes.


Peace.

we are not supposed to trust google or imdb but we are supposed to trust you?


Even if she is 16 just because actresses in older times faced exploitation since they were teens doesn't mean this needs to continue.It will but it's hardly an ideal situation,16 year olds acting opposite 40 year olds too is wrong or questionable on multiple levels.


There are differences between what is not problematic for a computer programmer at 16 and what is not problematic for an aspiring actress at 16(let us keep in mind her age is not yet even proved to be 16)

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: vijay

I am commenting here cause I know both Riva and her mother. In my limited interactions with her she is an intelligent girl and she knows what she is doing and is passionate about making a career in acting.

Firstly she is certainly not 12 and is 16 year old and will turn 17 in 3-4 months. People calling her 12 just cause IMDb / Google says so and I can tell for sure that it is wrong and it will be corrected in due course.


Secondly treat Acting also as a profession just like any other profession Sports, Tech, Medical etc. Yes it's more glamorous but the setup today is much more professional compared to the past.


And as I understand, many want to cast her in movies / music videos or promotions etc cause she is an actress and is a popular social media influencer with over 8.5mn followers just on Instagram and around 900K subscribers on Youtube. It's not very new trend and that is why we see so many social media stars featured in music videos in the past.

It makes me sick to read some of the insensitive and wild accusations which I do not want to repeat in my post again. If you do not know don't make baseless accusations.


I saw the "controversial" video clip with Karan Kundra. The only objection of mine would be to showcase "alcohol" in the shot even though it was clearly mentioned in her post that it was not real and just for show.


On the larger debate I want to ask is she the only one who has been paired onscreen with much older male actors?


Sridevi (born 1963) first role as a teen-adult came in 1976 at age 13 (as per WikiPedia), when she was cast in the Tamil film Moondru Mudichu played the love interest of Rajnikant (born 1950) and Kamal Hasan (Born 1954).

Tamannah Bhatia was 15 when she got her first romantic movie Chaand Sa Roshan Chehra. If one researches you will find many more examples.


It's easy for people to suggest that people should be 18 first. Many of the actors who made it big have started early in life. Not all have the luxury of being launched by their parents connection in the industry at the "right" age with the "right" hero.


I can relate to her cause I too had an unconventional start to my career. I am a self taught computer programmer. I started doing odd freelancing web projects work when I was 14/15 year of age. At age 17 burnt my fingers in running computer education business. Started working full time for a startup at 18 while still in college and I purely got it just because of past work experience and was very fortunate to be paid higher than some of the IITians in the company.


Everyone has their own journey and struggles and we do not know unless we are in their shoes.


Peace.


Thanks for your post Vijay, every person is free to choose their career. Riva's mother is there with her and she will shield her daughter from anybody trying to harm her. If somebody is ambitious and takes steps to enhance her goals, it's their choice. Am sure they are educated intelligent people, n know what they are doing.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: vijay

I am commenting here cause I know both Riva and her mother. In my limited interactions with her she is an intelligent girl and she knows what she is doing and is passionate about making a career in acting.

Firstly she is certainly not 12 and is 16 year old and will turn 17 in 3-4 months. People calling her 12 just cause IMDb / Google says so and I can tell for sure that it is wrong and it will be corrected in due course.


Secondly treat Acting also as a profession just like any other profession Sports, Tech, Medical etc. Yes it's more glamorous but the setup today is much more professional compared to the past.


And as I understand, many want to cast her in movies / music videos or promotions etc cause she is an actress and is a popular social media influencer with over 8.5mn followers just on Instagram and around 900K subscribers on Youtube. It's not very new trend and that is why we see so many social media stars featured in music videos in the past.

It makes me sick to read some of the insensitive and wild accusations which I do not want to repeat in my post again. If you do not know don't make baseless accusations.


I saw the "controversial" video clip with Karan Kundra. The only objection of mine would be to showcase "alcohol" in the shot even though it was clearly mentioned in her post that it was not real and just for show.


On the larger debate I want to ask is she the only one who has been paired onscreen with much older male actors?


Sridevi (born 1963) first role as a teen-adult came in 1976 at age 13 (as per WikiPedia), when she was cast in the Tamil film Moondru Mudichu played the love interest of Rajnikant (born 1950) and Kamal Hasan (Born 1954).

Tamannah Bhatia was 15 when she got her first romantic movie Chaand Sa Roshan Chehra. If one researches you will find many more examples.


It's easy for people to suggest that people should be 18 first. Many of the actors who made it big have started early in life. Not all have the luxury of being launched by their parents connection in the industry at the "right" age with the "right" hero.


I can relate to her cause I too had an unconventional start to my career. I am a self taught computer programmer. I started doing odd freelancing web projects work when I was 14/15 year of age. At age 17 burnt my fingers in running computer education business. Started working full time for a startup at 18 while still in college and I purely got it just because of past work experience and was very fortunate to be paid higher than some of the IITians in the company.


Everyone has their own journey and struggles and we do not know unless we are in their shoes.


Peace.


Haan re bhai 50 saal pehle sridevi young age pe debut ki toh ye bhi sahi he🤡 just because things happened in a way earlier doesn't mean we wont question a wrong today in 2022.


And please self taught computer programmer is completely different from someone getting accused of using her kid to further her own dreams.


Nobody forces a 15 yr old computer guy to dress skimpy and act adult. You are comparing apple and oranges.



And yes if people feel something is wrong they will speak up. Cant just diss them cause they have a different opinion to yours ( although personal comments are uninvited)

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Posted: 2 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: vijay

I am commenting here cause I know both Riva and her mother. In my limited interactions with her she is an intelligent girl and she knows what she is doing and is passionate about making a career in acting.

Firstly she is certainly not 12 and is 16 year old and will turn 17 in 3-4 months. People calling her 12 just cause IMDb / Google says so and I can tell for sure that it is wrong and it will be corrected in due course.


Secondly treat Acting also as a profession just like any other profession Sports, Tech, Medical etc. Yes it's more glamorous but the setup today is much more professional compared to the past.


And as I understand, many want to cast her in movies / music videos or promotions etc cause she is an actress and is a popular social media influencer with over 8.5mn followers just on Instagram and around 900K subscribers on Youtube. It's not very new trend and that is why we see so many social media stars featured in music videos in the past.

It makes me sick to read some of the insensitive and wild accusations which I do not want to repeat in my post again. If you do not know don't make baseless accusations.


I saw the "controversial" video clip with Karan Kundra. The only objection of mine would be to showcase "alcohol" in the shot even though it was clearly mentioned in her post that it was not real and just for show.


On the larger debate I want to ask is she the only one who has been paired onscreen with much older male actors?


Sridevi (born 1963) first role as a teen-adult came in 1976 at age 13 (as per WikiPedia), when she was cast in the Tamil film Moondru Mudichu played the love interest of Rajnikant (born 1950) and Kamal Hasan (Born 1954).

Tamannah Bhatia was 15 when she got her first romantic movie Chaand Sa Roshan Chehra. If one researches you will find many more examples.


It's easy for people to suggest that people should be 18 first. Many of the actors who made it big have started early in life. Not all have the luxury of being launched by their parents connection in the industry at the "right" age with the "right" hero.


I can relate to her cause I too had an unconventional start to my career. I am a self taught computer programmer. I started doing odd freelancing web projects work when I was 14/15 year of age. At age 17 burnt my fingers in running computer education business. Started working full time for a startup at 18 while still in college and I purely got it just because of past work experience and was very fortunate to be paid higher than some of the IITians in the company.


Everyone has their own journey and struggles and we do not know unless we are in their shoes.


Peace.

I completely agree with what you're saying, Vijay, however acting is different since it requires both natural talent and the ability to portray the character she was given, convincingly irrespective of her age.

You must persuade the audience with your ability to portray that particular persona, or else you risk fading into obscurity, because this is sort of an imaginary realm where the logic and laws of the real world do not apply. Her decision to continue acting from season to season is one that she and her family must have made consciously.

Physically and mentally, a girl of 12 years old and a girl of 16 or 17 years old are very different.

We must be impressed if a 16 or 17-year-old girl can demonstrate her talent in a particular role.

However, it is unethical and illegal to use her as a sex symbol or for other vice videos or ads.

Dimple Kapadia was just 14 year old girl when she entered in to the acting career in Bobby.

Following the sharp increase in child-centric content on both television and streaming platforms in India, the stature of child artists has been elevated to central characters holding up entire plots in both films and TV serials,and the huge remuneration which is alluring many to enter into the tinsel world at an early age and consequently trying to be there for long, changing the roles from child artist to a romantic lead, the choices are at times a bit hasty but for them, it is a necessary change for their sustainability!!

The situations of Sri Devi, Rekha, and numerous other young actors are similar in that they choose to change their roles from child actors to romantic leads at a young age in order to maintain their on-screen presence.

The glorification of school-age kids' romance and their eloping from the house to portray their love as an eternal one are particular phases that were severely condemnable, yet people enjoyed and contributed to the success of those movies.

It's all about the money, as our several IF members correctly pointed out, and most of the time, the gifted kids are anxious to establish themselves as successful heroines in this glitter world as soon as possible.

The most crucial question here is: To what extent is it OK to taunt a girl like this, disparage her age and physical appearance, and traumatise her for choosing to pursue her career?

Following the clarification of her lawyer mother's remark about her age and priorities, the public has no right to interject like this.

Yes, agree, it is a risky career, with full of vulgar vulture's presence everywhere.

For instance, while filming for the movie Hum Panchhi Ek Daal Ke, the former actress Daisy Irani testified about being sexually assaulted at the age of 6 by the guy designated as her guardian. Similar to how a 15-year-old Rekha was forced to kiss a 30-year-old actor Biswagit while filming Anjana Safar, this kind of early exposure to the vices of the entertainment industry is heartbreaking and strongly condemnable.

Also keep in mind that today's youth are independent and outspoken in their decision-making.

It is up to Riva Arora and her family to determine whether or not to take action as her career at this stage/ age.

Edited by Viswasruti - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
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Meanwhile 16 year old IITians who haven't slept in days and are gauging their eyes out while coding "Mereko kyun laa rahe ho beech mein? Main toh yahaan tha bhi nahi!"

Never saw a IITian get sexualised unless it's a Chetan Bhagat book (which I don't read, pfft)

She romanced men almost twice her age, and if Akshay doing it with a legally adult Bhumi is weird, so is this.

Peace.

Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: oye_nakhrewaali

Meanwhile 16 year old IITians who haven't slept in days and are gauging their eyes out while coding "Mereko kyun laa rahe ho beech mein? Main toh yahaan tha bhi nahi!"

Never saw a IITian get sexualised unless it's a Chetan Bhagat book (which I don't read, pfft)

She romanced men almost twice her age, and if Akshay doing it with a legally adult Bhumi is weird, so is this.

Peace.


I have no problem with people who are commenting on the pairing is not looking good / weird / unconvincing. Or even commenting on her acting skills.


My main objection is with people who are making up stories, attributing motives and handing out bad parent certificate when we do not know them personally.


The short video clip which caused this uproar I didn’t see her being sexualized as people are claiming. And her mom is always with her at the sets.


And with regards to dressing it’s upto the person who is wearing and what they can carry well.


16 year olds in todays time are much more vocal, smarter and confident compared to 20-40 years back due to the exposure of the world through travel, social media and internet.

Lastly my opinion would have been different if her age would be 12 but if it’s 16 that changes a lot.

Peace.


- Vijay


PS. IITians are intelligent people and I do not intend bringing them into this debate and I have them as friends.😊. That was merely to highlight that people who chose the unconventional route can also do well and it gives an edge when you start early.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: vijay

I am commenting here cause I know both Riva and her mother. In my limited interactions with her she is an intelligent girl and she knows what she is doing and is passionate about making a career in acting.

Firstly she is certainly not 12 and is 16 year old and will turn 17 in 3-4 months. People calling her 12 just cause IMDb / Google says so and I can tell for sure that it is wrong and it will be corrected in due course.


Secondly treat Acting also as a profession just like any other profession Sports, Tech, Medical etc. Yes it's more glamorous but the setup today is much more professional compared to the past.


And as I understand, many want to cast her in movies / music videos or promotions etc cause she is an actress and is a popular social media influencer with over 8.5mn followers just on Instagram and around 900K subscribers on Youtube. It's not very new trend and that is why we see so many social media stars featured in music videos in the past.

It makes me sick to read some of the insensitive and wild accusations which I do not want to repeat in my post again. If you do not know don't make baseless accusations.


I saw the "controversial" video clip with Karan Kundra. The only objection of mine would be to showcase "alcohol" in the shot even though it was clearly mentioned in her post that it was not real and just for show.


On the larger debate I want to ask is she the only one who has been paired onscreen with much older male actors?


Sridevi (born 1963) first role as a teen-adult came in 1976 at age 13 (as per WikiPedia), when she was cast in the Tamil film Moondru Mudichu played the love interest of Rajnikant (born 1950) and Kamal Hasan (Born 1954).

Tamannah Bhatia was 15 when she got her first romantic movie Chaand Sa Roshan Chehra. If one researches you will find many more examples.


It's easy for people to suggest that people should be 18 first. Many of the actors who made it big have started early in life. Not all have the luxury of being launched by their parents connection in the industry at the "right" age with the "right" hero.


I can relate to her cause I too had an unconventional start to my career. I am a self taught computer programmer. I started doing odd freelancing web projects work when I was 14/15 year of age. At age 17 burnt my fingers in running computer education business. Started working full time for a startup at 18 while still in college and I purely got it just because of past work experience and was very fortunate to be paid higher than some of the IITians in the company.


Everyone has their own journey and struggles and we do not know unless we are in their shoes.


Peace.


This is a shameful justification. Disgusting.


Comparing something wrong that happened decades ago to justify what they are doing now.🤢


I pity Riva that she has parents and uncles/aunties who are pimping her out like this and are brazenly justifying it too. Ghor kalyug.

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