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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: JackSparrowcraz

She was paid more than them. I have not seen actress paid more than their male counterparts after her.

Those actors got blockbusters due to her. I don't see such BO pull.

Apart from HAHK and Raja, I don’t remember any movies being hit because of her. Even HAHK, I wouldn’t say the movie was a hit solely because of her. Music played a big part in making the movie a hit. I myself wanted to watch the movie just for the songs. After Raja, she had a string of flops until Dil To Pagal Hai. DTPH wasn’t a hit because of her.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: JackSparrowcraz

bold:Leading money spinners?Nope.Carrying a film on their own and giving the biggest hit of the year?Nope


Salman had 6 flops before HAHK. He was not as big a craze after MPK as you are exaggerating.

@bold — yup exactly. Her craze was something else. All generations loved her.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Because there have been no women with the same box office pull as her.


For those who're claiming HAHK was a Salman film as well... as someone who was around at the time, it was a Madhuri film people went to see.


That silly movie called Raja succeeded because of Madhuri. Hero was Sanjay Kapoor of all people! Could've been a monkey, and it would've still succeeded.


What did she have that others didn't? She looked good, had a sexy figure, was a good dancer, could act reasonably, and got along with her costars for the most part. Then there was the intangible something called screen presence. After Sridevi, only Madhuri had it among women. No matter who else was on screen, Salman, SRK, Aamir, AB, Anil, eyes would invariably go to these women.


Madhuri was Madhuri. 2000 k bad paida hone wale bachho ko kabhi pata nahi chalega uska craze. At least don’t tell us aisa tha wesa tha coz we have seen it. 😆

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Because there have been no women with the same box office pull as her.


For those who're claiming HAHK was a Salman film as well... as someone who was around at the time, it was a Madhuri film people went to see.


That silly movie called Raja succeeded because of Madhuri. Hero was Sanjay Kapoor of all people! Could've been a monkey, and it would've still succeeded.


What did she have that others didn't? She looked good, had a sexy figure, was a good dancer, could act reasonably, and got along with her costars for the most part. Then there was the intangible something called screen presence. After Sridevi, only Madhuri had it among women. No matter who else was on screen, Salman, SRK, Aamir, AB, Anil, eyes would invariably go to these women.


HAHK would of been a big blockbuster with any actresses, it was post MPK which was ATBB that had the same team of HAHK just the actress changed, madhuri might of acted better but I can't remember her characters name while i know salman's name. Biggest female centric hits where female was the main protagonist are movies like Mother India, Nagina, Seeta aur Geeta, HAHK is far from female centric film just that the female acted better than the male actor doesn't make it a female centric movie. Title itself says it all.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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I just wanna start by saying that Sridevi and Madhuri are my Top 2 most favourite queens of all-time I was and still and will always be obsessed with them ever since I was a little baby in the 80s. However... I never hesitate to speak facts which may or may not be critical of either of them, or anyone else that I may love whether it's Kajol or Karisma or Aishwarya or Rani or whoever...

Originally posted by: Vickat_4evr

Srideviji was the first female superstar n this madz used to jealous of her.

The hard-core Sridevi fans that claim she was the "first superstar" also claim she was the "last empress" what is this illogic? So there was no superstar before her and none after her, she was the only one?? NO 👎🏼

Also, another hard fact to digest is that it was Sridevi who was jealous of Madhuri. Sri was the queen reigning for many years and she left all her competition way way way behind for miles and miles (Meenakshi, Jaya, Padmini, Poonam). Then along came Madhuri who was rising and rising and rising and rising. Sri became insecure of her success. It's understandable, many in the same position might feel that way too. It also didn't help that Sridevi was having NO luck at the box office. From 1990 to 1996 she had just 1 hit film (Laadla, 1994). Roop Ki Rani flopping was a major blow in 1993 - the year she turned 30, and she knew Bollywood will certainly look at her unfavourably, then her parents died and then she got pregnant by Boney Kapoor. Major panic/crisis situation.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Because there have been no women with the same box office pull as her.

For those who're claiming HAHK was a Salman film as well... as someone who was around at the time, it was a Madhuri film people went to see.

That silly movie called Raja succeeded because of Madhuri. Hero was Sanjay Kapoor of all people! Could've been a monkey, and it would've still succeeded.

Madhuri fans on the other hand wanna give her all the credit for HAHK - I'm not gonna say she wasn't the main draw of the film neither, but but but... if audience were really going so crazy over her in June 1995 to see Raja... what happened to the same audience just few months later in March 1996 when Rajkumar flopped colossally? smiley19 and again in May 1996 when Prem Granth released and nobody gave an f about her charm offensive.. smiley42

The fact is that people go to watch a film for a combination of factors. The stars, the music, the director, the type of story... it all needs to come together to create a buzz.. we can never say that "Madhuri is the reason the film is a hit" because if the songs swapped with Prem Granth's soundtrack and Salman was replaced by Danny Denzongpa then it would've been a different story.. smiley36


Originally posted by: Grumpydwarf24

I wonder if Divya Bharti lived if Madhuri would have had more competition? Anyways pointless wondering about that stuff.

1. Madhuri Dixit was offered Deewana (Divya's breakthrough) and she rejected it

2. Madhuri was signed for and began shooting HAHK in August 1992. Divya was still alive then. And that is the film that cemented further Madhuri's super duper stardom, so I'm sorry if you thought that Divya still being alive post-1993 would have made any difference to Madhuri's legacy, because it would have had for sure zero impact. Further more, DTPH was conceptualised after Yash Chopra became so besotted with Madhuri as Nisha in HAHK and by January 1995 he had signed her for the film then known as "Tevar" with Urmila and SRK. ❤️

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rekha_ji


1. Madhuri Dixit was offered Deewana (Divya's breakthrough) and she rejected it

2. Madhuri was signed for and began shooting HAHK in August 1992. Divya was still alive then. And that is the film that cemented further Madhuri's super duper stardom, so I'm sorry if you thought that Divya still being alive post-1993 would have made any difference to Madhuri's legacy, because it would have had for sure zero impact. Further more, DTPH was conceptualised after Yash Chopra became so besotted with Madhuri as Nisha in HAHK and by January 1995 he had signed her for the film then known as "Tevar" with Urmila and SRK. ❤️

My goodness you seem so well read on this matter. I was just wondering btw. Never claimed anything to be a truth carved in stone.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Kajol was the last female superstar imo. DDLJ, KKHH, K3G all these movies were banking on SRK AND Kajol. Unfair to give all the credit to SRK for the success of all these big Hits.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: cougarTown


DP was the highest paid in Piku and Padmavat


and dp, kat are sure shot superstars


@ Bold: name one movie..if you are talking about HAHK, salman was a huge star even then..he was a craze right after MPK..madz may be bigger star but she did not hand him a BB for sure..

Madhuri gave a blockbuster with Sanjay Kapoor. Ab yeh mat bolna, Sanjay Kapoor was also a huge star😆

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: AwaamKiJaan

Kajol was the last female superstar imo. DDLJ, KKHH, K3G all these movies were banking on SRK AND Kajol. Unfair to give all the credit to SRK for the success of all these big Hits.

Kajol’s solo movie made ₹8.24 crores, SRK’s solo movies made upto 100 crores on average even with a bad script. We can see from who the max of profit comes from

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sonam-Fan-Sonu

Kajol’s solo movie made ₹8.24 crores, SRK’s solo movies made upto 100 crores on average even with a bad script. We can see from who the max of profit comes from

Lol Did this happen in 90s because I'm talking about 90s and early 2000s when DDLJ, KKHH and K3G released. That time even 8 Crores was a big lifetime total and 100 Crores was a number out of reach at the box office.😆

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