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I hope you will re consider your decision.
Originally posted by: catchmeifucan
@Bold: True that! But unfortunately you failed to follow that yourself when you keep jumping at people’s throats and dismissing off their knowledge or learning as beneath yours because apparently you got it directly delivered from the Veda Vyasa Himself. Even if that is so, going by what you just said in the bold, one would think you would know better than dismissing off other people and attacking them personally just because they seem to be disagreeing with you.
Vidya dadati vinayam - knowledge gives you humbleness, discipline, culture, manners . If it doesn't then what is the point of such knowledge?
@Red: ’. Who are you to protect Draupadi that you jumped at people the other day because you didn’t like what was said about her? Hypocrisy much?
This is a BW forum and there are people like me who don’t like to go into the depths of the ‘texts’ and discuss the Gods, beliefs and religion in general. I suggest you let me be and stop jumping at me with your ‘texts’.
So why don't you post citations of what you know from texts accepted by Mahabharata scholars like Sukthankar (BORI, he died a long time ago but left a Prologmena)?
You can't because northern recension categorically states Subhadra haran as haran. The variations of the word *force* are used multiple times.
At this time, the usual suspects have jumped into refute what Veda Vyasa said as though they were around to witness the incident themselves better than him. And yes, the accepted texts are accepted as what Vyasa recited to his 4 disciples and one son, narrated by Vaisampayana to Janmejaya, which was re-narrated by Ugrasravas Sauti to the rishis in Naimisharanya, put together in the written form sometime during the Gupta period.
And as @M.Wheeler said, if you want to learn more, there are enough and more groups and forums to discuss the epics. But the interests of those who vehemently claim Arjun didn't abduct seems to be more in religious politics, not in religion or history. Sadly, willful ignorance doesn't have a cure.
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So why don't you post citations of what you know from texts accepted by Mahabharata scholars like Sukthankar (BORI, he died a long time ago but left a Prologmena)?
You can't because northern recension categorically states Subhadra haran as haran. The variations of the word *force* are used multiple times.
At this time, the usual suspects have jumped into refute what Veda Vyasa said as though they were around to witness the incident themselves better than him. And yes, the accepted texts are accepted as what Vyasa recited to his 4 disciples and one son, narrated by Vaisampayana to Janmejaya, which was re-narrated by Ugrasravas Sauti to the rishis in Naimisharanya, put together in the written form sometime during the Gupta period.
And as @M.Wheeler said, if you want to learn more, there are enough and more groups and forums to discuss the epics. But the interests of those who vehemently claim Arjun didn't abduct seems to be more in religious politics, not in religion or history. Sadly, willful ignorance doesn't have a cure.
@Bold: Exactly! If not ignorance what else is this to force someone into a debate when they don't want to? Just because you have no sense of place, time and the context I also should be lead by your ignorance? What I can’t or can is not up to you to decide. I repeat: Vidya Dadati Vinayam, if it is not then clearly your knowledge isn’t working for you!
@Red: Why are you saying that to me? Where did I ever say anything about it in this entire thread?
BlueIce is in good cahoots with certain mod and gets special privileges. So if she wants an instant action taken against certain thread.. it's taken pronto. Otherwise all other threads mods take action in their ppropriate time.
Didn't know about that. In that case, I am clearly out of my league here. I don't want to discuss anything other than BW anymore today. So, I will leave this thread here. Sincerely hope that a good solution exists to this & I also sincerely hope that you enjoy your time on IF. 🤗
@FF Being friendly and being being friends are two different things and I can't moral police everyone. Don't have that much bandwidth.. my only point was that I have seen some of the people you have very good camaraderie with and I assumed they are your good friends and you will speak up if they do something wrong. Now that you clarified I have nothing else to say. Peace 🙏
Who are you talking about exactly? Take names, maybe that'll get your somewhere. Hotchoco? Me? Autumn?
In any case, yours is the call for what's acceptable to you. FF's is the call for what's acceptable to hers. And mine is the call for what's acceptable to me.
I would give it a thought if FF pulls me aside to slap my wrist or whatever it is you expect her to do for poking fun at you. 😆 But that doesn't mean she is obligated to do so. Can't say the same about others. I wasn't around when that entire aryan thread split happened but something tells me that they have strong opinions on this and have enough grounds to be completely ticked off by your behavior as well.
Besides, what makes you think that FF shares or should share the same opinion as you on this matter?Why are you so sure that she doesn't find your pity parties and "woe is me" drama annoying? I'm not saying anything about where she stands but how can you be so sure that she doesn't echo the other side's sentiments? Presumptuous much?! She doesn't have to take a stand for you anyway, and it's her prerogative what she finds worth standing up against in public. You can't twist her arm into pushing back against something YOU dislike.
If you think we're in cahoots with each other here, we're not. It's literally a bunch of people who happen to be on the same page and are clicking likes on posts that tickle their funny bone, without scratching beyond the surface reactions. No one is out to get you.
If more than three people are liking posts pulling your leg for mass blocking, and you have already called them out along with a few others in the past, why do you need FF to condemn them too, now when no one is even bothering you here? Are you kidding?
Even I felt sorry for you and cut down on the so-called "bullying" cuz you just wouldn't stop crying about just how much the "likes" and laughs grate you. Didn't you have some people jumping to your defense in the past, and bashing us with no holds barred, the very same thing you just wouldn't stop complaining about? and you in turn joined them and mocked us with barbs of your own, the very same thing you keep condemning and want FF to condemn openly? There is no end to your hypocrisy, is there?
Originally posted by: catchmeifucan
@Bold: True that! But unfortunately you failed to follow that yourself when you keep jumping at people’s throats and dismissing off their knowledge or learning as beneath yours because apparently you got it directly delivered from the Veda Vyasa Himself. Even if that is so, going by what you just said in the bold, one would think you would know better than dismissing off other people and attacking them personally just because they seem to be disagreeing with you.
Vidya dadati vinayam - knowledge gives you humbleness, discipline, culture, manners . If it doesn't then what is the point of such knowledge?
@Red: ’. Who are you to protect Draupadi that you jumped at people the other day because you didn’t like what was said about her? Hypocrisy much?
This is a BW forum and there are people like me who don’t like to go into the depths of the ‘texts’ and discuss the Gods, beliefs and religion in general. I suggest you let me be and stop jumping at me with your ‘texts’.
I am not even talking to you. So please stop quoting.
Originally posted by: catchmeifucan
@Bold: True that! But unfortunately you failed to follow that yourself when you keep jumping at people’s throats and dismissing off their knowledge or learning as beneath yours because apparently you got it directly delivered from the Veda Vyasa Himself. Even if that is so, going by what you just said in the bold, one would think you would know better than dismissing off other people and attacking them personally just because they seem to be disagreeing with you.
Vidya dadati vinayam - knowledge gives you humbleness, discipline, culture, manners . If it doesn't then what is the point of such knowledge?
@Red: ’. Who are you to protect Draupadi that you jumped at people the other day because you didn’t like what was said about her? Hypocrisy much?
This is a BW forum and there are people like me who don’t like to go into the depths of the ‘texts’ and discuss the Gods, beliefs and religion in general. I suggest you let me be and stop jumping at me with your ‘texts’.
Only person here making personal attack is you.
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