Which is the most inspiring BW female character onscreen since 2000? - Page 2

Originally posted by: Anjalika01

Neerja and Sehmat definitely, as what they did would be literally impossible for most of us, and not to mention they were based on real women too...

Also talking about Sehmat, the writer of the book that the film was supposed to be following (who knew and worked with the real Sehmat) has confirmed that all the being pressured into her job, crying, regret, etc. (that's stopping people on here calling her inspiring) was entirely the addition of the makers... the real Sehmat was never like that and what she did was definitely her own choice.

Out of the fictional ones I'd say Shivani and after her Minal.

i dont remember sehmat being pressured into doing her job neither she ever regreted her actions

and if people here are not calling her inspiring because she cried then that s problem with people s mentality not with sehmat because crying is not a sing of weakness its just a natural human behavior

i have read the book and sehmat in the book was as broken by the end of it as in the movie

Hamare itihaas mein aise kayi log hai jinhe koi inaam, koi medal nahi milta ... hum unka naam tak nahi jaante ... na hi unhe pehchante hai ... sirf watan ke jhande par apni yaad chhod jaate hai

TThere are many people in our history who don't get any medal or recognition ... we don't even know their name ... neither can w people in our history who don't get any medal or recognition ... we don't even know their name ... neither can we identify them ... they just leave behind their memories on our country's flag

Adding Astitva and Piku in this list is a joke right?

Tabu in Andhadhun

Inspiring for all the wrong reasons but inspiring none the less. I still can't believe how she nonchalantly chucked that nosy old woman over the balcony.

All of them had a pretty inspiring story but my favs would be Sashi and Rani.. They went out of their comfort level and went on this soul searching journey all alone, they didn't change but became a better version of themselves and you know the best part? They did all this just for themselves and not because they wanted to be accepted by people who ridiculed them.

Originally posted by: Krishnapanchali

sehamat might not have come up with idea but she fully into it from get go plus it takes a lot courage to do what she did being a spy in unknown country with full posibility of getting caught and in such circumstances her own people would have turned against her

i think all the spies out there do a brilliant job without any thought of rewards thats very inspiring

Inspiration is sujective. Nor have I read Calling Sehmat.

Having said that...

Firstly, what real Sehmat did was right for the country and wrong acc to the universal understanding of personal ethics. Humans grapple with right and wrong all the time. Sometimes, there are no right answers.

Secondly, there's a diff between a woman making a decision on her own and her being pushed into it. Bollywood is notorious for showing women wouldn't have done it (*it* being the morally ambiguous act) if it werent for father/brother/husband/ex BF etc.

There is also a way to portray a reluctant hero. You might or not know about hero's journey arc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey#Campbell's_seventeen_stages

Instead of showing either, BW chose to justify the *woman in her* by making it her father's decision in the beginning and never having her own it completely after she met her husband.

So real Shemat is a hero (I haven't read her story but taking everyone's word for it), but we're talking about onscreen Sehmat, and she did not appeal to me as an inspirational character.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Inspiration is sujective. Nor have I read Calling Sehmat.

Having said that...

What real Sehmat did was right for the country and wrong acc to the universal understanding of personal ethics. Humans grapple with right and wrong all the time. Sometimes, there are no right answers.

There's a diff between a woman making a decision on her own and her being pushed into it. Bollywood is notorious for showing women wouldn't have done it if it werent for father/brother/husband/ex BF etc.

There is also a way to portray a reluctant hero. You might or not know about hero's journey arc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey#Campbell's_seventeen_stages

Instead of showing that, BW chose to justify the *woman in her* by making it her father's decision.

So real Shemat is a hero (I haven't read her story but taking everyone's word for it), but we're talking about onscreen Sehmat, and she did not appeal to me as an inspirational character.

Just because her father came up with idea does not makes her any less a hero. Same thing happens the book too.

Her father was a spy for Indian government who passed the baton to his child when his end neared.

I never saw her to be reluctant neither in the book nor in the movie. She was never forced. Her father did not force into this. He presented a offer she accepted it. I don't see exactly which scene in the movie shows her to he reluctant?? When she cries that just a normal human emotion.

Even book sehmat was as destroyed by the end of it as in the movies. But she was still every bit a hero for everything she did for our country. And each of one us are indebted to her for life

Its like an army officer wanting his son to be the same. And the son going on a path fullfil it not because of his father but also because he loves his country he fights with his full strength at the border. Will the world call him any less a hero??? I don't think so.

Just because intial idea was not hers does that makes everything she did worthless because intial thought process was not hers

I am sorry but that s bit unfair.

Sehmat is a Hero and she will remain. No matter how her journey she was one who lived it through everything through conspiracies through betrayal through trauma.

Not everything has to be man and woman issue.

Had a mother taken this decision as sehmat doea for het son latter (her son becomes an army officer) the son is still a hero. As is sehmat

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Shashi - except for the ending. It took courage at that stage in her life.

Then Neerja

Thirdly, Pink

Then, maybe Shivani from Mardani.

Sehmat did not make the decision to do what she did on her own. Vidya Bagchi was out for revenge. Piku and Rani were regular gals.

Don't know aboust Astitva or NH10.

I thought the ending was fine. What happened at the ending? It’s been a while i watched the movie.

OT: Shashi for sure!

Originally posted by: Talis

Tabu in Andhadhun

Inspiring for all the wrong reasons but inspiring none the less. I still can't believe how she nonchalantly chucked that nosy old woman over the balcony.

That scene was a master stroke in itself! Comical, scary and what not!

Originally posted by: Krishnapanchali

Just because her father came up with idea does not makes her any less a hero. Same thing happens the book too.

Her father was a spy for Indian government who passed the baton to his child when his end neared.

I never saw her to be reluctant neither in the book nor in the movie. She was never forced. Her father did not force into this. He presented a offer she accepted it. I don't see exactly which scene in the movie shows her to he reluctant?? When she cries that just a normal human emotion.

Even book sehmat was as destroyed by the end of it as in the movies. But she was still every bit a hero for everything she did for our country. And each of one us are indebted to her for life

Its like an army officer wanting his son to be the same. And the son going on a path fullfil it not because of his father but also because he loves his country he fights with his full strength at the border. Will the world call him any less a hero??? I don't think so.

Just because intial idea was not hers does that makes everything she did worthless because intial thought process was not hers

I am sorry but that s bit unfair.

Sehmat is a Hero and she will remain. No matter how her journey she was one who lived it through everything through conspiracies through betrayal through trauma.

Not everything has to be man and woman issue.

Had a mother taken this decision as sehmat doea for het son latter (her son becomes an army officer) the son is still a hero. As is sehmat

You're reading a whole lot into it that I never meant. I got certain vibes from the movie which I found very tedious and unappealing. Idea can be someone else's, but they didn't show her fully warm up to it at any point (even with personal qualms), which defeated the heroism for me. Once again, art is subjective. You could find something appealing which I do not.

Also once again, I'm talking about *onscreen* Sehmat, not real woman.