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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Harley_Quinn

The movie was about Kanji. It was his story. So God interfering in his life was shown to the audience. You can't base it on the movie to make this claim that he didn't interfere in the life of other humans.


But we have effectively seen God doesn't help people. He made Kanji suffer and there is no reasoning for that. Conmen had been freely conning people and there is no reasoning why God doesn't stop them. The other families whose cases Kanji fights, again God let them suffer. Only time he does bother is when somebody questions God's existence. Petty God.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Muskie

No he did not say that the holy books were man made propaganda.

as far as I know (correct me if I am wrong) the "act of God" or natural calamities can be a response to inhuman activities but also punishment for the disbelievers whenever they cross their limits or exceed in their bad deeds, a warning for bad people, kaanji was a disbeliever who used to SELL every thing in the name of God, mock him and refused to believe in him. so, hence the calamity

It's not just "bad" people dying in natural calamities though. Everyone dies in a disaster, good people, bad people, average people.

And the movie was all about giving the message to not fear God. So if he punishes people for not believing in him or mocking him, then the movie was contradicting it's message.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Harley_Quinn

It's not just "bad" people dying in natural calamities though. Everyone dies in a disaster, good people, bad people, average people.

And the movie was all about giving the message to not fear God. So if he punishes people for not believing in him or mocking him, then the movie was contradicting it's message.

ranji didn't fear god, he MOCKED about him that's why ONLY his shop was broken and no one else's.

I completely agree on this part 👍🏼

But it's also a saying that the more poor people suffer in this world, the more they'll be at peace in the after world

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

I don't remember dialogues of the movies as I had watched the movie a long time ago, but I'm just looking at things pointed out by you.


In the movie Oh My God, Kanji sues God for destroying his shop when he doesn't get the insurance money for his loss, as it was considered an "Act Of God" because his house was destroyed in an earthquake which is a natural calamity. The question here is, if everything is in Gods hands, do humans have no accountability?

The prosecution lawyer asks him to bring proof of God destroying his shop. Then Akshay Kumar's character who played God Krishna in the movie, advices him to read all holy books Bhagwad Gita, Quran and Bible, and in all three books it's written that every natural calamity happens with the will of God. Are they mocking the texts, or the people - blaming God for their own actions? What about man made calamities? Did God cause pollution?


So did the movie supported reading of holy books and considered it not a propaganda made by humans? But reading a book doesn't solve anything. People can be spiritual without knowing how to read? Is spirituality or attaining salvation dependent on holy books? Are there no revered saints who defied religious norms? Are people capable enough to interpret holy books at all? How many people commit crimes or acts of terrorism based on their interpretations of holy books?If that's the case, then did it mean God indeed destroyed Kanji's shop out of anger for spreading a false rumour about him all over India?

But it would make God a dictator whom you should fear and the movie gives a message of not having that image of him in your mind. As it's a false image sold by Godmen to make people fear him.

Then why Kanji's house was the only building destroyed in the earthquake? If that was not by will of God, then that means holy books are wrong. But then why Krishna advices Kanji to read them if holy books are also religious propaganda made by Godmen?

Holy books being propaganda is further supported by Mithun Chakraborty's character who is a Godmen, quoting something from Bhagwad Gita which said that anyone not believing or doubting everything written on the book would never get peace in life or death.

So coming back to my original question, did the movie called holy books man-made propaganda or not?

Do most people not practice religion out of fear than God? Are people more superstitious or spiritual? Are they not different?


So are they mocking books or people who are misled or misleading people?

No religion or holy book is to be blamed, but people who think they know everything but don't.

The movie didn't mock the texts. Neither the movie supported it. It was just used to make a point that Kanji's house was destroyed by earthquake, which was caused by God. Because all natural calamities like earthquake, tsunami, floods (even the man-made ones) happen because of God because that's what is written in all holy books.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Harley_Quinn

The movie didn't mock the texts. Neither the movie supported it. It was just used to make a point that Kanji's house was destroyed by earthquake, which was caused by God. Because all natural calamities like earthquake, tsunami, floods (even the man-made ones) happen because of God because that's what is written in all holy books.


He is arguing based on his understanding of the texts.

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