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Posted: 5 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

THIS IS SUPER LONG BUT WORTH THE READ.

Mercurial Medusa has already stated the imp points, I'll just go a notch deeper to clear this to show the movement of the two clans. And I am doing this coz I love our history 😆

Firstly there is no Aryan-Dravidian. That was all BS served to us by historians and the West ideology for them to appear superior. If anything there has been movement out of Bharat Khanda due to clash of ideologies or separation of population due to tectonic plate movement. This is what I feel because I've read various texts, predominantly Zoroastrian, Nordic etc. I can link each and every thing to India.

We've all originated from Brahmaji, it could be Manu, Prajapati, Manasputra etc. So its all gonna lead back to him.

There were three clans, one of Ikshvaku, one of Nimi and the other of Rishi Pulastya. Lets talk about Ikshvaku first but to understand the details I am gonna talk about his father first..

Shraddhadeva Manu also known as Satyavrata or (commonly) Vaivasvata Manu is the current Manu. Manu is known as the first man and is actually a title given to the ruler. In one DAY or KALPA of Brahmaji, there are 14 Manvantaras. Each is headed by a single Manu. We are currently in the 7th Manvantara. Thus Vaivasvata Manu is the 7th Manu.

Now Vaivasvata Manu's kingdom was situated in the Southern regions of India called the Dravida Kingdom. V.Manu (shortening his name) was warned by Matsya Avatar of Vishnu about the Great Flood. He built a boat which carried his family and the saptarishis (these too change every Manvantara). The Matsya Avatar guided them to the top of the Malaya Mountains. This is said to be in modern day Mangalore. After the Deluge, Manu's family and the seven sages repopulated the Earth. Thats why everyone had 100s of children. Both Suryavanshi and Chandravanshi dynasties came from V.Manu, but I don't want to confuse you right now.

Iskhvaku was one of the 10 sons of V.Manu who founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty. They were known as Suryavanshis since Ikshvaku's grandfather was Surya. Lord Ram belonged to this dynasty. The kingdom was Kosala Kingdom, its capital was Ayodhya. Lord Ram's lineage also called themselves Raghuvanshis after King Raghu, Ramji's great grandfather.

Next is Nimi, son of Ikshvaku. He established and founded the kingdom of Videha, commonly known as Mithila. Raja Janaka belonged to this dynasty. His adopted daughter Sita Maa along with the other three princesses were married off to Lord Rama and his brothers respectively.

Finally we come to Raavana. His father was Vishrava, grandfather was Rishi Pulastya and his great-grandfather was Brahmaji. Vishrava earned his powers through severe tapasya. Saptarishi Bharadwaja even married his daughter Ilavida to Vishrava because he was very impressed. From this union was born Kubera, the king of wealth.

Stories of Vishrava's power spread everywhere. Sumali was one of the founders of Lanka and a Daitya/Asura. He heard these tales and decided to get his daughter Kaikesi married to Vishrava. Her parents orchestrated the entire thing so that Vishrava would fall in love with Kaikesi. From this second marriage came 4 children: Ravana, Vibhishana, Kumbakarna and Shurpanakha. But because of the kids' asura genes they started behaving demonically. Vishrava returned to his first wife shortly after witnessing this.

Raavana was said to have been born in Bisrakh, a village in Uttar Pradesh. He seemed to have lived his childhood in Bisrakh and acquired Lanka later. Kubera was the original ruler of Lanka. The Pushpaka Viman, the gold with which the kingdom and all the riches that Lanka had were given originally to Kubera after his penance. Raavana drove him away and seized Lanka which he ruled this his death.

So actually Raavana was born not far from Ayodhya! But yes, he was huger in size due to his asura genes and lifestyle.

Coming to your question of the Vanvas, Raavana was granted a boon from Brahmadev that only a human could kill him. For that Vishnuji took a human avatar who had no ideas about his powers. Also Ramaji had already reached Panchvati in the 13th year of his banishment and they had a year to get back to Ayodhya. Anywhere up North would've taken more time.

So he had to move South to kill Raavana. This was done first by the 14 year banishment from Keikeyi. Then Lord Rama went to Chitrakoot and lived there but they needed to go more Sout to get closer to Lanka. This was triggered when Bharat arrived at Chitrakoot to take back his brother. Lord Rama knew that Bharat could come again to convince him to come back to Ayodhya. Also Chitrakoot had many Rishis doing tapasya and Lord Rama did not want that to be disrupted coz of him. Thus they left Chitrakoot.

Lord Rama and Lakshmana went on killing more and more asuras, daityas and daanavas they came across. These creatures had actually terrorised the Rishis and even killed many. Finally when they reached Panchvati and met Jatayu they chose to stay there for the last year of their Vanvas. The rest of the story is what you already know. 😊


Thanks for all the knowledge you shared. It makes the forum interesting to have such new insights instead of just the rehash of same old topics. You seem knowledgeable regarding the old bollywood music industry too.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#52

Saif no way suits ravanas role hes not good at negative roles only metro sexual roles suit him


I think the actor who did bhallal dev in bahubhali will suit best


He has the physique and acting skills to go with it


If not him the actor Kannada actor Sudeep will suit role

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Posted: 5 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: BettyA1

So Ravana is not from Srilanka

And all Indians are dravidians then?

Yes Ravana was not from Lanka. He "snatched" it from his half brother Kubera. That and Kubera's pushpaka vimana. Kubera got lanka designed by Viswakarma after being appointed as god of wealth (treasurer of the devas)

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Posted: 5 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Saif no way suits ravanas role hes not good at negative roles only metro sexual roles suit him


I think the actor who did bhallal dev in bahubhali will suit best


He has the physique and acting skills to go with it


If not him the actor Kannada actor Sudeep will suit role

Sudeep will be a great choice. Even Vikram (he's a terrific actor) or even Jr.NTR (though he is wayyy shorter than Prabhas... he sure has the aura and command over puranic characters and clarity in dialogue delivery)

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: TeluguChokri

OMG Thank you for this.🤗 I knew about Manu Story but the Iskhvaku and the descendants story . This is all new knowledge for me. This shows that many people don't know the actual truth behind all this history which includes me also. Everything you wrote enlightened me .About Kubera I read about it.😃


And everything now in the epic makes sense now. Also I heard Sita being Ravana's bio daughter who got to know that she would be reason for his destruction after birth , so buried her in the ground. Is it also folklore ?

I am glad I could spread a bit of information. History fascinates me and Bharat Khand's history is vast, way before the country ever existed. 😊

Our textbooks never covered all this. Any other religion you'll see kids reciting the hymns and praying from a young age. Parents pass on this knowledge. Unfortunately Hindus find Hinduism too uncool. I've actually yelled at a couple of young mothers (who are much older than me lol) when they tried to act all superior n shit.

Sita being Raavana's daughter is a legend. See the story moved from South to North because of the geographic location of the battle. I think that Raavan's clan only spread that folklore to save face a bit. Both them and Kaurava descendants faced lots of humiliation because of their ancestors' deeds.

Sita Maa was the daughter of Dharti Maiya who is also an avatar of Lakshmi Maa and consort of the Varaha avatar of Lord Vishnu. The only biological reason I can think for this is if Sita Maa was actually born to Raja Janaka then she would've been related to Lord Rama since born Mithila and Kosala came from Shraddhadeva Manu. Thats why Sita Maa had her own 'DNA' while Vishnuji (despite being an avatar) was born in Brahmaji's son's lineage.

About authenticity, the only true authentic version will be that of Rishi Valmiki. He was trikaldarshi and a contemporary of Lord Rama. Lord Brahma had asked him to erite down Ramayan. So his version of the story is what actually happened.

Tulsidasji's Ramcharitamanas is good for beginners knowledge but many things have been altered in that because the story was being rewritten in the KaliYuga. We aren't as openminded as our ancestors. And Tulsidasji was a Ram bhakt, so his viewpoint makes Ramaji look like a god who knew his purpose. But in actuality Ramaji had no idea he was an avatar because only a human with no supernatural powers could kill Raavan.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: MercurialMedusa

Sudeep will be a great choice. Even Vikram (he's a terrific actor) or even Jr.NTR (though he is wayyy shorter than Prabhas... he sure has the aura and command over puranic characters and clarity in dialogue delivery)

Why didn't I think of them.. Even when prabhas is a part of the movie, I didn't think of actors who are more popular in the South..

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Veni-Vidi-Vici

Why didn't I think of them.. Even when prabhas is a part of the movie, I didn't think of actors who are more popular in the South..

But now Saif is cast so all the options remain as wishful thinking :(

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: MercurialMedusa

Sudeep will be a great choice. Even Vikram (he's a terrific actor) or even Jr.NTR (though he is wayyy shorter than Prabhas... he sure has the aura and command over puranic characters and clarity in dialogue delivery)

This were my choice too when I thought about Ravana 's role.

Agree to that Jnr Ntr has great command but ya his height is hindrance.

I think for Sita's role also they are going to take someone from Bollywood only

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: fruitshake


Thanks for all the knowledge you shared. It makes the forum interesting to have such new insights instead of just the rehash of same old topics. You seem knowledgeable regarding the old bollywood music industry too.

Thank u 😊 I just read alot. Anything that doesn't make sense or sounds too agenda driven, I read it. Of course I love my country and am a true nationalist but I don't believe in agenda driven statements.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

I am glad I could spread a bit of information. History fascinates me and Bharat Khand's history is vast, way before the country ever existed. 😊

Our textbooks never covered all this. Any other religion you'll see kids reciting the hymns and praying from a young age. Parents pass on this knowledge. Unfortunately Hindus find Hinduism too uncool. I've actually yelled at a couple of young mothers (who are much older than me lol) when they tried to act all superior n shit.

Sita being Raavana's daughter is a legend. See the story moved from South to North because of the geographic location of the battle. I think that Raavan's clan only spread that folklore to save face a bit. Both them and Kaurava descendants faced lots of humiliation because of their ancestors' deeds.

Sita Maa was the daughter of Dharti Maiya who is also an avatar of Lakshmi Maa and consort of the Varaha avatar of Lord Vishnu. The only biological reason I can think for this is if Sita Maa was actually born to Raja Janaka then she would've been related to Lord Rama since born Mithila and Kosala came from Shraddhadeva Manu. Thats why Sita Maa had her own 'DNA' while Vishnuji (despite being an avatar) was born in Brahmaji's son's lineage.

About authenticity, the only true authentic version will be that of Rishi Valmiki. He was trikaldarshi and a contemporary of Lord Rama. Lord Brahma had asked him to erite down Ramayan. So his version of the story is what actually happened.

Tulsidasji's Ramcharitamanas is good for beginners knowledge but many things have been altered in that because the story was being rewritten in the KaliYuga. We aren't as openminded as our ancestors. And Tulsidasji was a Ram bhakt, so his viewpoint makes Ramaji look like a god who knew his purpose. But in actuality Ramaji had no idea he was an avatar because only a human with no supernatural powers could kill Raavan.

I was always fascinated by Mahabharata. Ramayan is new knowledge for me. So true there is so much to learn from our epic and the way our own people disregard it to appear cool it is so frustrating. Leave todays children even many from our parents generation have not much knowledge about it . And people believe anything TV shows shows


Wow so proud of you for showing the women about how ungrateful they were on own culture.Today only in twitter I saw a tweet about a idiot who was spewing shit about our Goddesses. My blood boiled when i saw it and mass reported it spreading hate .


Are Ravana and Kauravas descendants are still exsisting in today's generation ? I knew Sita's story would be fiction only. Its so unbelievable.


@Bold- Okay ya this makes sense and why Sita was not Biological daughter of Raja Janaka. It also explains why she goes back to mother earth . Sita having own DNA means she did not belonged to any lineage ?


Yes the true authentication would be the written by Rishi Valmiki only . But does the scripts of it still exist ? Like we have seen the documents and writing has been changed from years to years as we learnt in history .


Agree to the fact about we not being open minded like our ansestors I have observed it in Mahabharata also.Must say our epics coul give run to GOT( No offence to the show,I myself was fan of it😆)


@red- This is true.I have read about it.

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