Is nepotism bad only in Bollywood?

I usually just read the topics. But this nepotism is intriguing. Film makers are private companies and put in crores of their own or borrowed money into projects. They can put whoever they want in their project.

Star kids do have an advantage because they hang out in that circle. But if they flop then they go away. Kanagana herself has 4 flops and 1 moderate -Manikarnika yet she is still getting multi crore offers. So much for nepotism

In real life, a doctor who has a hospital will force his son to be a doctor and hire him to be head of hospital. A small business owner will hire his son or his relatives. Any middle class parent who educates their children, sends them to tuition , pays for a college education and then calls their friends to find their kids a job after they finish college is enraging in nepotism at the expense of say a servant maid's son/daughter who ends up working construction or working as a watchman?

Why should producers and movie wallas who put up crores or borrow crores at high interest be so pure and only hire outsiders when the rest of society promotes their children/relatives/friends in any field?? There is no barrier to entry-why not all outside people who suddenly interested in nepotism crowd fund, collect crores and make their own movies.

Nah, you're reaching. It's definitely worse in Bollywood - by a massive margin. Every other actor is a star kid.

Your doctor analogy is also off base. Parents may encourage their children to pursue the same career however the difference is they can't hand things to them. Those kids still have to work hard and earn their place. Sure they'll have the benefit of having a parent, who's worked their way through the system, to guide them. However no doctor or teacher, or any other professional in a role that requires academic qualifications, will be able to pick up the phone and call in a favour to get their kid hired. The kid will have to go through school and earn all the relevant qualifications. Bollywood star kids land roles by virtue of being their parents child - that’s literally it. They having nothing else on their resumes.

A more apt comparison would be with another film industry, i.e. Hollywood. And Bollywood still comes out much much worse.

Hollywood does have nepotism, but they don't laud star kids from the moment they step on the scene and they certainly don't hand them films on a silver platter. In fact 'outsiders' do better than 'star kids'.

Gwyneth Paltrow, Claire Danes, Jamie Lee Curtis, Dakota Johnson, Kate Hudson, Charlie Sheen, Matthew Brodrick, Freddie Prinze Jnr, Toby Stephens, are all 'star kids'. None of them did particularly well in films. Toby Stephens is huge in theatre but never made it in films, Gwyneth's career fizzled out after the 90s, Claire Danes never made it big in films and ended up on television, Kate Hudson was a one hit wonder, Charlie Sheen was a teen star and was then off the radar until 2 and a half men. Freddie Prinze Jnr and Matthew Brodrick never had much of a career outside a few teen films.

The only Hollywood 'star kids' I can think of that have made it big are Robert Downey Jr, Drew Barrymore, Emma Thompson, and Helena Bohman Carter.

There's also Angelina Jolie, but again she never made it big in films - that's why she's more on the humanitarian/activist side.

Otherwise the big actors are 'outsiders'; for instance: Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Keira Knightley, Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Daniel Day Lewis, Meryl Streep, Helen Miren, Ben Affleck, Julia Roberts, Kate Winslet, Cameron Diaz, Tom Hanks, Will Smith, Samuel L Jackson, Sandra Bullock, Liam Neeson, Keanu Reeves, Jennifer Lawrence, Emma Stone, Brie Larson, Jack Nicholson, Eddie Murphy, Jim Carrey, Tom Holland, Tom Hiddleston, Bradley Cooper, etc.

Nepotism is everywhere....but in BW it is very bad....destroys others career and life too and that to this extent they start enjoying it....its more like criminal type behaviour.......👎🏼

and after some time they get used it and start thinking they r like king or god👎🏼

Originally posted by: desertsun

I usually just read the topics. But this nepotism is intriguing. Film makers are private companies and put in crores of their own or borrowed money into projects. They can put whoever they want in their project.

Star kids do have an advantage because they hang out in that circle. But if they flop then they go away. Kanagana herself has 4 flops and 1 moderate -Manikarnika yet she is still getting multi crore offers. So much for nepotism

In real life, a doctor who has a hospital will force his son to be a doctor and hire him to be head of hospital. A small business owner will hire his son or his relatives. Any middle class parent who educates their children, sends them to tuition , pays for a college education and then calls their friends to find their kids a job after they finish college is enraging in nepotism at the expense of say a servant maid's son/daughter who ends up working construction or working as a watchman?

Why should producers and movie wallas who put up crores or borrow crores at high interest be so pure and only hire outsiders when the rest of society promotes their children/relatives/friends in any field?? There is no barrier to entry-why not all outside people who suddenly interested in nepotism crowd fund, collect crores and make their own movies.

Huh? My parents never paid my tuition neither did they call up anyone to get me a job. And I dont know whose parents do so either. Not here in North America at least.

Also, do doctors or business owners who hire their kids publish crap about other doctors or business owners? Like do they publish articles about other doctors and business owners sexually abusing people?

I think it’s coz film industry dosent need formal qualifications certificates or percentages to enter and work as an actor

All of their work is qualitatively assessed...he has more screen presence , she’s more good looking , he’s more emotive, she suits the role better etc...

All these can be subjective so u can totally hate an actor everybody else likes and vice versa

hence there is nothing to question filmmakers on as to why they hired actor a and not actor b

Whereas u can question a company why they hired a student with 50% and rejected the student with 90%...When their cutoff is 80% and the second student met the criteria

No such quantitative assessments for new comers in bwod...atleast establishes ones have box office records

Nepotism is everywhere. Its been there since beginning of time. If you call out political dynasty your voices will be suppressed, and for other industries where nepotism exists won't give you media coverage and limelight. The reason why nepotism in BW is topic of discussion is that it gives you fame, it gives you audience who will be more than happy to give you 2cents of fame. The reason why nepotism in bw is called out is BW is an entertainment industry, it's okay to make fun of them, they are easiest target as they will be readily available on social media for us to troll. That's it. We don't care about anyone we just want to troll people here.

It's bad in Politics as it really has an impact on people's lives

Originally posted by: Amara_B

Nah, you're reaching. It's definitely worse in Bollywood - by a massive margin. Every other actor is a star kid.

Your doctor analogy is also off base. Parents may encourage their children to pursue the same career however the difference is they can't hand things to them. Those kids still have to work hard and earn their place. Sure they'll have the benefit of having a parent, who's worked their way through the system, to guide them. However no doctor or teacher, or any other professional in a role that requires academic qualifications, will be able to pick up the phone and call in a favour to get their kid hired. The kid will have to go through school and earn all the relevant qualifications. Bollywood star kids land roles by virtue of being their parents child - that’s literally it. They having nothing else on their resumes.

A more apt comparison would be with another film industry, i.e. Hollywood. And Bollywood still comes out much much worse.

Hollywood does have nepotism, but they don't laud star kids from the moment they step on the scene and they certainly don't hand them films on a silver platter. In fact 'outsiders' do better than 'star kids'.

Gwyneth Paltrow, Claire Danes, Jamie Lee Curtis, Dakota Johnson, Kate Hudson, Charlie Sheen, Matthew Brodrick, Freddie Prinze Jnr, Toby Stephens, are all 'star kids'. None of them did particularly well in films. Toby Stephens is huge in theatre but never made it in films, Gwyneth's career fizzled out after the 90s, Claire Danes never made it big in films and ended up on television, Kate Hudson was a one hit wonder, Charlie Sheen was a teen star and was then off the radar until 2 and a half men. Freddie Prinze Jnr and Matthew Brodrick never had much of a career outside a few teen films.

The only Hollywood 'star kids' I can think of that have made it big are Robert Downey Jr, Drew Barrymore, Emma Thompson, and Helena Bohman Carter.

There's also Angelina Jolie, but again she never made it big in films - that's why she's more on the humanitarian/activist side.

Otherwise the big actors are 'outsiders'; for instance: Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Keira Knightley, Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Daniel Day Lewis, Meryl Streep, Helen Miren, Ben Affleck, Julia Roberts, Kate Winslet, Cameron Diaz, Tom Hanks, Will Smith, Samuel L Jackson, Sandra Bullock, Liam Neeson, Keanu Reeves, Jennifer Lawrence, Emma Stone, Brie Larson, Jack Nicholson, Eddie Murphy, Jim Carrey, Tom Holland, Tom Hiddleston, Bradley Cooper, etc.

@Bold -

Nepotism in health, politics and bureaucracy is much more problematic because these institutions affect all of us. Qualifying doesn't mean one will get job in big hospital, do you really know how money, family and names work in these fields?

Bollywood and Hollywood nepotism is easier to handle by refusing to watch the movie, look at how we are struggling without opposition because our main opposition party can't think beyond the crown prince

Nepotism may not be bad everywhere but whataboutery is bad everywhere.

Originally posted by: Sharpener

Huh? My parents never paid my tuition neither did they call up anyone to get me a job. And I dont know whose parents do so either. Not here in North America at least.

Also, do doctors or business owners who hire their kids publish crap about other doctors or business owners? Like do they publish articles about other doctors and business owners sexually abusing people?

You obviously grew up in North America. Those of us who grow up India know the torture of tuition/coaching class. Do you work, have you seen office politics? This is nothing compared to what goes on in any office, to get good projects, competing for promotions. Office gosssip especially when women get ahead-always allegations of her sleeping with someone. Office gossip is nothing when compared to this stuff and is very targeted especially when people are competing for a promotion or a plum project.