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Posted: 6 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Luna46

I know that Tiger has made connection with audience but my question is how has he made that "connection"? Even the worst of the actors like Kat have to know how to express their emotions to connect with audience. Then comes this guy who is a big 0 in expressing, let alone acting, and he's able to make that connect?

Comparing Manoj Bajpayee with Vidyut Jamwal is ridiculous. Manoj is character actor. Vidyut is hero material. Maybe you're saying that as Vidyut made his debut in Bollywood as Villain and kept on doing such roles, and that image stayed with the audience? Okay, that can be a valid reason.

yes, that is what I meant. He has become like Arjun Rampals, Akshay Khanna, Manoj Bajpayee and others of thr bygone eras, ie, a supporting actor, not the lead role.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Vidyut just doesn't connect with the audience. Simple. Not everything about an actor's appeal is tangible. He's had some success sure, but he has not captured his target audience's attention. Tiger has. The end.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Thug-Leader

in terms of interest generation and popularity in a certain genre? Yes.

Let's assume Tiger is Akshay Kumar and Vidyut is Manoj Bajpayee.

Imagine Manoj Bajpayee in the movie Jolly LLB vs The State, would the movie have had better performance and critical applause? Yes. But it would have been not reached anywhere the box office that Akki did? No.

Same way Vidyut, just like Manoj Bajpayee doesn't generate the same level of interest and hype, that Tiger does.

Your comparison here is wrong. Firstly Tiger and Vidyut fall in the same category of looks, genre etc. but Akshay and Manoj don't. Manoj usually does off-beat films, that's why there is less hype and level of interest. One is a star and other is just an actor as Luna said.

But Tiger and Vidyut's filmography and persona on/off screen are almost similar in every aspect. Baaghi and Commando in case.

The point is simple as what everyone made in the thread already. Tiger came with a better packaging. The hype and interest was consciously generated for Tiger just like for any other star kid in the beginning on which he capitalized later.

But Vidyut didn't have the same golden opportunity. He had to struggle and well, somehow, has managed to have his own little fan following but i doubt anyone besides them, ever knows when any of his movie releases. So more than connection with the audience (Commando and sequel were successes), it's about inside connection which Vidyut lacks.

In this age, things like production houses who can properly promote you and the consciously generated buzz from industry insiders matters a lot, which at the very least does help in increasing audience's curiosity.

Aside from this, it's just luck.

I think what Vidyut lacks more is a proper PR team and backing that can expose him on a wider level.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I don't know about others but to me Vidyut really looks like he came off a gym assembly line. His acting chops are nothing great too. And most importantly, Tiger's movies are hits. Tiger dances well too, I can't even recollect any of Vidyut's songs.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Luna46

Haan to kya se kaam chalta hai? Tiger me kya hai aisa jo chal gaya?

Many reasons.

Obviously being Jaggu Dada's boy is the stepping stone reason, as Jaggu Dada is quite popular with, respected by and looked upto with single screen, launde lapade audience. Not saying they rush to watch his movies, but they do hold him in high regard because of his personality.

His movies heropanti was an instant hit, he found an audience right from that movie due to action and dance, and the major backlash he got in that was his girly looks and voice, he somehow managed to reverse it with Baaghi 1, while his movies like Munna Micheal and Flying Jatt flopped hard, but both had their songs and the movie themselves being super hit in the television.

Also one of the weird things, which many don't notice but almost all Tiger movie has at least one dialogue which the nukaad ke taporis picked up and still going around the country, sometimes these small things also make an impact, which people don't notice.

Tiger has also been doing kinda clean movies(SOTY asides), meaning family friendly ones(nowadays families don't care much about the pappi scenes), had an on screen image of the action star who saves the day while his off screen image is the humble boy(as most people don't read blinds), the perfect recipe of the Indian masses darling star. Plus lets be honest his action is unique, yes Vidyut is better, but Tiger is smart as he uses signature moves which remains with the audience, plus no other main stream big star can do even half of what he does in action.

Also last but not the list, but having a hot gf, also makes chichoras looking upto you and try to copy the characteristics. And Tiger has arguably the most liked(lusted) current male audience heart throb as his gf.

I don't think we can pin point one factor, but his humble boy image and the action star image has won him a huge section of single screen audience.

Plus Baaghi 2 , has made him something else, the single screen where I go, the workers over there still talk about that and the hysteria it created. For them Tiger is the biggest young star, because they never any other young stars movie doing that well as Baaghi 2 did. Obviously that is a very very very tiny sample(can't even call it sample), but you get the point.

I think all factors like good boy image, good bf, the heroic action star image with his own unique and eye catching action style and dance style, Jaggu Dada's credibility and doing movies which have some impact on the single screen audience are the reasons why Tiger has such connect with the masses. Obviously he needs to be doing movies which hide his weakness, give more spotlight to his action , while also being decent story to maintain it, or else he will also fall hard like all action stars, who run out of plots after a time.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: hotchic2


Your comparison here is wrong. Firstly Tiger and Vidyut fall in the same category of looks, genre etc. but Akshay and Manoj don't. Manoj usually does off-beat films, that's why there is less hype and level of interest. One is a star and other is just an actor as Luna said.


But Tiger and Vidyut's filmography and persona on/off screen are almost similar in every aspect. Baaghi and Commando in case.


The point is simple as what everyone made in the thread already. Tiger came with a better packaging. The hype and interest was consciously generated for Tiger just like for any other star kid in the beginning on which he capitalized later.


But Vidyut didn't have the same golden opportunity. He had to struggle and well, somehow, has managed to have his own little fan following but i doubt anyone besides them, ever knows when any of his movie releases. So more than connection with the audience (Commando and sequel were successes), it's about inside connection which Vidyut lacks.


In this age, things like production houses who can properly promote you and the consciously generated buzz from industry insiders matters a lot, which at the very least does help in increasing audience's curiosity.


Aside from this, it's just luck.


I think what Vidyut lacks more is a proper PR team and backing that can expose him on a wider level.



Vidyut is not an established lead actor, he has been typecasted into the supporting actor role, can't compare him with a main stream star like Tiger. They don't fall in same category. Skill set, yes but their standing in the industry, no.


Commando was average grosser and its sequel was a flop. Baaghi was hit and its sequel is a blockbuster, there is no comparison. In terms of popularity Commando has cult following, while Baaghi series has mass following.


It is okay to feel that Vidyut is more deserving but lets us not disregard that public likes Tiger more and he is much more popular than Vidyut.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#47

vidyut konsa acha actor ha 😆

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Posted: 6 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: Phenomenal_One

vidyut konsa acha actor ha 😆


He can release some martial arts Ninja videos. Cause Ninjas are shadow warriors and they can sneak anywhere like "im a ninja im a ninja" 🤣

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Posted: 6 years ago
#49

Still love Vidyut Jamwal in every expect either creativity .. looks .. n action the most❤️

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Posted: 6 years ago
#50

Can Tiger even act? He's not even nice to look at

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