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Posted: 7 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: Bollywoodlaver


show me where hirani admitted this?? he said that more scenes were added, more anecdotes that he gave about his life were added, he didn't say he modified his character, what bloody crap! Stop putting words in other people's mouths, I am sorry if your ranbir cannot enjoy success without sharing it with sanju, thats his problem, no need to take it out on sanju! And you clearly stated that you do not think most people were there for sanju but were there for ranbir? this is all silly assumptions, read any old film magazine, sanju has been shown to be n0.1 in the early 90s, ur ranbir has never been no.1! It is sad that your ranbir had to do this "propoganda" "whitewashing" film to save his career, going by your own silly logic!

After facing criticism for whitewashing the life of Sanjay Dutt in his biopic, Sanju, Rajkumar Hirani has now admitted that he added scenes to the movie just to make the character more likeable.

Speaking at an event in Mumbai on Wednesday, Hirani said the earlier version of Sanju was closer to real life as he wanted to When the first edit was ready and we screened for people, they hated him. They said we don't like this man. We don't want to watch him. Because I wanted to do a true story, I didn't create any empathy towards him. I said let's not create empathy and show as he is. But later I understood that he was our hero and we needed some empathy for him," Hirani said.Hirani's comments confirm the notion that the film was indeed written in such a way that Dutt's image would be rehabilitated.

According to

Huffpost. And 10 other publications.



Attacking ranbir kapoor now? And my ranbir? I wish darling. But alas!!!

And bloody crap...silly logic...personal attack...all your words ...enough rudeness from your side.


I even said thrice sanjay dutt was at his peak in the 90s.


Still have not managed to show me where i have been rude to you.


Just arguing for tge sake of arguing.

Edited by ToujoursPur - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ToujoursPur

After facing criticism for whitewashing the life of Sanjay Dutt in his biopic, Sanju, Rajkumar Hirani has now admitted that he added scenes to the movie just to make the character more likeable.

Speaking at an event in Mumbai on Wednesday, Hirani said the earlier version of Sanju was closer to real life as he wanted to When the first edit was ready and we screened for people, they hated him. They said we don't like this man. We don't want to watch him. Because I wanted to do a true story, I didn't create any empathy towards him. I said let's not create empathy and show as he is. But later I understood that he was our hero and we needed some empathy for him," Hirani said.Hirani's comments confirm the notion that the film was indeed written in such a way that Dutt's image would be rehabilitated.

According to

Huffpost. And 10 other publications.



Attacking ranbir kapoor now? And my ranbir? I wish darling. But alas!!!

And bloody crap...silly logic...personal attack...all your words ...enough rudeness from your side.


I even said thrice sanjay dutt was at his peak in the 90s.


Still have not managed to show me where i have been rude to you.


Just arguing for tge sake of arguing.


this is not the whole article, selective reading much? even here raju is not saying that he changed sanjay dutt's character! if the biopic is such a sham, then ur amazing actor also participated equally in the sham and all of you guys should be ashamed of him also!

And how can you be so sure that the audience was only there because of ranbir? you are calling others presumptuous but have a look at yourself.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: Bollywoodlaver


show me where hirani admitted this?? he said that more scenes were added, more anecdotes that he gave about his life were added, he didn't say he modified his character, what bloody crap! Stop putting words in other people's mouths, I am sorry if your ranbir cannot enjoy success without sharing it with sanju, thats his problem, no need to take it out on sanju! And you clearly stated that you do not think most people were there for sanju but were there for ranbir? this is all silly assumptions, read any old film magazine, sanju has been shown to be n0.1 in the early 90s, ur ranbir has never been no.1! It is sad that your ranbir had to do this "propoganda" "whitewashing" film to save his career, going by your own silly logic!


Originally posted by: ToujoursPur

After facing criticism for whitewashing the life of Sanjay Dutt in his biopic, Sanju, Rajkumar Hirani has now admitted that he added scenes to the movie just to make the character more likeable.

Speaking at an event in Mumbai on Wednesday, Hirani said the earlier version of Sanju was closer to real life as he wanted to When the first edit was ready and we screened for people, they hated him. They said we don't like this man. We don't want to watch him. Because I wanted to do a true story, I didn't create any empathy towards him. I said let's not create empathy and show as he is. But later I understood that he was our hero and we needed some empathy for him," Hirani said.Hirani's comments confirm the notion that the film was indeed written in such a way that Dutt's image would be rehabilitated.

According to

Huffpost. And 10 other publications.



Attacking ranbir kapoor now? And my ranbir? I wish darling. But alas!!!

And bloody crap...silly logic...personal attack...all your words ...enough rudeness from your side.


I even said thrice sanjay dutt was at his peak in the 90s.


Still have not managed to show me where i have been rude to you.


Just arguing for tge sake of arguing.


this is not the whole article, selective reading much? even here raju is not saying that he changed sanjay dutt's character! if the biopic is such a sham, then ur amazing actor also participated equally in the sham and all of you guys should be ashamed of him also!

And how can you be so sure that the audience was only there because of ranbir? you are calling others presumptuous but have a look at yourself.

I never even said the biopic was a sham. I am pretty sure it was sound legally. Hirani says he changed a jail convict drug addict guy to make him likable. All are true. They are not insults. Plain facts.

But hirani himself admits it is not honest to the t. Making a character likable? Isko modify nahi toh kya bolu?

I never said audience was only there for ranbir either. I have time and again said they and in fact myself were there for the story...i gave sanju credit for that already.
For hirani and joshi writing and hirani tag. I only said ranbir performance was so good that it contributed to make it a hit.

And ranbir should be ashamed of participating in a sham? He said yes to a script. He need nit have known it was a sham or not. Ask him.
That way toh he should never have played a guy kidnapping an autistic kid for money in barfi either. Bad business. Sham. Criminal.hain?

And maybe blame sanju for living such a life which made a first edit so bad that people did not like the guy. I am not blaming him. Dont know he was a criminal or not either. Hirani said it.

Selective reading? You asked me to show you where he had said it. I pasted the article. Hirani has said he made a true story word for word also in earlier press reports. Google google. Agar vi news pe ab mukar raha hai toh...bharosa kya?

As i said you are arguing to argue.

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Posted: 7 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: Bollywoodlaver


I never even said the biopic was a sham. I am pretty sure it was sound legally. Hirani says he changed a jail convict drug addict guy to make him likable. All are true. They are not insults. Plain facts.

But hirani himself admits it is not honest to the t. Making a character likable? Isko modify nahi toh kya bolu?

I never said audience was only there for ranbir either. I have time and again said they and in fact myself were there for the story...i gave sanju credit for that already.
For hirani and joshi writing and hirani tag. I only said ranbir performance was so good that it contributed to make it a hit.

And ranbir should be ashamed of participating in a sham? He said yes to a script. He need nit have known it was a sham or not. Ask him.
That way toh he should never have played a guy kidnapping an autistic kid for money in barfi either. Bad business. Sham. Criminal.hain?

And maybe blame sanju for living such a life which made a first edit so bad that people did not like the guy. I am not blaming him. Dont know he was a criminal or not either. Hirani said it.

Selective reading? You asked me to show you where he had said it. I pasted the article. Hirani has said he made a true story word for word also in earlier press reports. Google google. Agar vi news pe ab mukar raha hai toh...bharosa kya?

As i said you are arguing to argue.


what mr hirani said was that he had to show sanju side of the story and emotions also, otherwise it looks bland, and anyone with a bit of iq would interpret it that way, he is speaking up against the allegations of white washing, nowhere did he say he was being dishonest. You did not even bother to read all of the articles or bother to watch the interview the media made articles on, and only cared to read headlines much like what they have shown in the movie. I did not care to read the rest of your hog wash 🤢 ranbir fans are such hypocrites, if you have so much of a problem with the biopic and sanju's character than get hold of ranbir's neck who promotes him like he is some kinda God!



And you did not even read my hogwash? Selective reading toh app karte ho.

And media quoted him exactly. I saw the interview. Showed emotional side yes. Emotions are not facts.

Ca hoon. Bohut time laga karne mein. Perseverance and facts...dont even try to defeat me there. I will win.
Edited by ToujoursPur - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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i am making up my own articles?? please show me where exactly hirani said that he changed sanju's character? read the whole article he said he added new anecdotes so one can have sympathy, otherwise before this he was trying to make a completely factual movie with not many emotions, and that was wrong, that exactly what he said in the whole 1 hr video interview and in the long article i read, and if raju and sanju should be blamed for "whitewashing" then so should be ranbir, so quit the hypocrisy.

"The scene where he tries to kill himself after the verdict is out; which he had mentioned to me but we didn't put in the film, I shot it later. It was not in the original script. I thought through this some empathy will come..., he was quoted saying by IANS.


"My perception of Sanju was that he has done so many weird things but he is not a bad man... I felt he had an innocence, he is naughty but he doesn't harm anyone. He didn't pick up the gun, scared people or fired a shot. He made a mistake, he added. The director once again dismissed the criticism that he has "whitewashed Dutt's life.

"We made a commentary about certain section of the media and the term whitewashed' came into play. Everywhere I go people say I have whitewashed him but I haven't. A journalist asked me, why did you whitewash Sanju and I asked what was Sanju's crime? I am not defending the man but myself and the film. He kept a gun, destroyed it too, lied to his father and was arrested. I showed it all, his drug phase and the way he treated people. So where have I whitewashed? Hirani asked.


- this is adding scenes, not changing one's character FYI😕

https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/changed-sanju-to-create-empathy-for-sanjay-dutt-confesses-rajkumar-hirani/story-xGiOd844RSo5Hi6U4Jw5fO.html
Edited by Bollywoodlaver - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: Bollywoodlaver


i am making up my own articles?? please show me where exactly hirani said that he changed sanju's character? read the whole article he said he added new anecdotes so one can have sympathy, otherwise before this he was trying to make a completely factual movie with not many emotions, and that was wrong, that exactly what he said in the whole 1 hr video interview and in the long article i read, and if raju and sanju should be blamed for "whitewashing" then so should be ranbir, so quit the hypocrisy.
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"The scene where he tries to kill himself after the verdict is out; which he had mentioned to me but we didn't put in the film, I shot it later. It was not in the original script. I thought through this some empathy will come..., he was quoted saying by IANS.


- this is adding scenes, not changing one's character FYI 😕


Adding scenes for empathy. Addingscenes for empathy.
Whereas pehle toh koi whitewashing thi hi nahi.

I said modified character. Not change. Modified to make it likable.

You are putting words in my mouth.

And i dont have a problem with the movie. Loved it. As a story. A modified story.

Bas sanju ko credit nahi mila so aapki jal rahi hai.

Nahi milega ga sanju ko credit. Kaafi mil chuka. Aur credit nahi milega. You keep posting your own arguments diverting from everything.

And you never showed me where i was rude. No where.

I repeat. I credit sanju for baba bolta hai song. For his story. And nothing else.

And as for you...aapko bhi koi credit nahi milega.

Jaao.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: ToujoursPur


Adding scenes for empathy. Addingscenes for empathy.
Whereas pehle toh koi whitewashing thi hi nahi.

I said modified character. Not change. Modified to make it likable.

You are putting words in my mouth.

And i dont have a problem with the movie. Loved it. As a story. A modified story.

Bas sanju ko credit nahi mila so aapki jal rahi hai.

Nahi milega ga sanju ko credit. Kaafi mil chuka. Aur credit nahi milega. You keep posting your own arguments diverting from everything.

And you never showed me where i was rude. No where.

I repeat. I credit sanju for baba bolta hai song. For his story. And nothing else.

And as for you...aapko bhi koi credit nahi milega.

Jaao.


where did raju say he modified his character? I am waiting? I don't care for what you give credit to sanjay dutt for, you are not some queen, it is your personal opinion, but don't be a hypocrite and tell people they are presumptuous when they don't give credit to your ranbir kapoor, first see what you are saying before pointing fingers at others! You are yourself presumptuous!
Edited by Bollywoodlaver - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bollywoodlaver


where did raju say he modified his character? I am waiting? I don't care for what you give credit to sanjay dutt for, you are not some queen, it is your personal opinion, but don't be a hypocrite and tell people they are presumptuous when they don't give credit to your ranbir kapoor, first see what you are saying before pointing fingers at others! You are yourself presumptuous!


No. You made it up. I only said its presumptious that majority went to theatre for sanjay dutt and not for hirani or ranbir.you made that presumption.

I even said they went to see his life story.

Ranbir has his credit anyway.

I never pointed fingers either. Just see your posts vs mine. It will be clear.


I also read sanju bo thread. And your arguments there. Obsession is relative. But present.
my last word on this subject.

Keep posting your own thoughts bollywoodlaver. And keep waiting.

You help in bumping my topic. Thank you.




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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ToujoursPur



No. You made it up. I only said its presumptious that majority went to theatre for sanjay dutt and not for hirani or ranbir.you made that presumption.

I even said they went to see his life story.

Ranbir has his credit anyway.

I never pointed fingers either. Just see your posts vs mine. It will be clear.


I also read sanju bo thread. And your arguments there. Obsession is relative. But present.
my last word on this subject.

Keep posting your own thoughts bollywoodlaver. And keep waiting.

You help in bumping my topic. Thank you.






You are also presuming that the majority did not go because of Sanjay dutt, what's the difference? Maybe you need to understand your own mind before writing your senseless replies. I am done here.

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