What was so bad about Salman Khan 2000-2009 - Page 2

Originally posted by: MinzPie

taken from koimoi 2015 article..

<font size="4">popular myth-</font><h2>Salman Khan hit a rough patch between 2000-2009 and his stardom dipped:</h2>

Ludicrous reasons are wheeled out by his critics to perpetuate this myth. The movies in which he made guest appearances are tagged as his movies.HELLO, SAAWARIYA, HEROES, BAABUL, SAAWAN,etc. are some of the examples. By the same logic, does one countDULHA MIL GAYA, HEY RAM, BHOOTNATH, SILSILAY, KRAZZY 4, etc. as Shah Rukh's movies?

It is amusing that naysayers discount superhits likeMUJHSE SHAADI KAROGI, NO ENTRY, andPARTNER all of which released between 2000 and 2009 as these are multi-starrer movies. While the contribution to each and every member associated with the movie must be acknowledged, it is clear as daylight that Salman was the dominant star in those movies who pulled in the audience. The producer ofNO ENTRYis still waiting for Salman's approval and dates to start its sequel. The project has not taken off only because Salman is yet to allot the dates. While Anil Kapoor is a fine actor, he has been playing side-roles since 1999 and is dependent on the dominant star to pull through the movies. Same goes for Govinda whose heyday as superstar ended in 1999. Govinda has said in numerous interviews that he would always be grateful to Salman for offering him a film when no work was coming his way. If one look at Govinda's movies from 2003 onwards, all of them have opened extremely poorly exceptPARTNERandBHAGAM BHAG. He no longer gets the lead roles.

Also, if we deploy the same rationale and yardstick, should we discountKABHI KHUSHI KABHI GHAM,DEVDAS, KAL HO NA HO, OM SHANTI OM, etc, from SRK's oeuvre... andRANG DE BASANTI,3 IDIOTS,DIL CHAHTA HAI, etc. from Aamir Khan's body... orPHIR HER PHERI,WELCOME,HEY BABY,SINGH IS KINNG,BHOOL BHULAIYA, etc. from Akshay Kumar's filmography?

People condoneTERE NAAM, MAINE PYAAR KYUN KIYA, CHORI CHORI CHUPKE, WANTED, DULHAN HUM LE JAYENGE,andHAR DIL JO PYAR KAREGAas if they didn't exist. These all movies were declared either hits or semi-hits by all trade experts alike, but when it comes to Salman anything less than a blockbuster is a flop?

Just for the reference of readers,GARAM MASALA, WAQT, NAMASTEY LONDON, DIL CHAHTA HAI, CHALTE CHALTE, KAL HO NA HO, DEVDAS, ANDAZ,etc. are all either hits or semi-hits. But are they called flops or disasters? The larger point here is that it is not appropriate to dub successful films (hits or semi-hits) as flops just because they were not blockbusters.

Another notable point is that even the films likeGARVandLUCKYwhich were ultimately declared below-average at the box-office opened to packed houses.

Having said all this, one must admit that Salman was not as successful between 2000 and 2009 as he was in 1990s, a decade when he was undisputed numero uno. From 2000 to 2009, Shah Rukh and Aamir certainly had an edge over Salman, but to say that Salman's stardom had dipped considerably is a gross exaggeration. The perception and general consensus about Salman among hoi polloi has always been that of a larger-than-life superstar.

Koimoi ??

Komal Nahta ???

He's only believable when its convenient 😆

Originally posted by: MinzPie

taken from koimoi 2015 article..

<font size="4">popular myth-</font><h2>Salman Khan hit a rough patch between 2000-2009 and his stardom dipped:</h2>

Ludicrous reasons are wheeled out by his critics to perpetuate this myth. The movies in which he made guest appearances are tagged as his movies.HELLO, SAAWARIYA, HEROES, BAABUL, SAAWAN,etc. are some of the examples. By the same logic, does one countDULHA MIL GAYA, HEY RAM, BHOOTNATH, SILSILAY, KRAZZY 4, etc. as Shah Rukh's movies?

It is amusing that naysayers discount superhits likeMUJHSE SHAADI KAROGI, NO ENTRY, andPARTNER all of which released between 2000 and 2009 as these are multi-starrer movies. While the contribution to each and every member associated with the movie must be acknowledged, it is clear as daylight that Salman was the dominant star in those movies who pulled in the audience. The producer ofNO ENTRYis still waiting for Salman's approval and dates to start its sequel. The project has not taken off only because Salman is yet to allot the dates. While Anil Kapoor is a fine actor, he has been playing side-roles since 1999 and is dependent on the dominant star to pull through the movies. Same goes for Govinda whose heyday as superstar ended in 1999. Govinda has said in numerous interviews that he would always be grateful to Salman for offering him a film when no work was coming his way. If one look at Govinda's movies from 2003 onwards, all of them have opened extremely poorly exceptPARTNERandBHAGAM BHAG. He no longer gets the lead roles.

Also, if we deploy the same rationale and yardstick, should we discountKABHI KHUSHI KABHI GHAM,DEVDAS, KAL HO NA HO, OM SHANTI OM, etc, from SRK's oeuvre... andRANG DE BASANTI,3 IDIOTS,DIL CHAHTA HAI, etc. from Aamir Khan's body... orPHIR HER PHERI,WELCOME,HEY BABY,SINGH IS KINNG,BHOOL BHULAIYA, etc. from Akshay Kumar's filmography?

People condoneTERE NAAM, MAINE PYAAR KYUN KIYA, CHORI CHORI CHUPKE, WANTED, DULHAN HUM LE JAYENGE,andHAR DIL JO PYAR KAREGAas if they didn't exist. These all movies were declared either hits or semi-hits by all trade experts alike, but when it comes to Salman anything less than a blockbuster is a flop?

Just for the reference of readers,GARAM MASALA, WAQT, NAMASTEY LONDON, DIL CHAHTA HAI, CHALTE CHALTE, KAL HO NA HO, DEVDAS, ANDAZ,etc. are all either hits or semi-hits. But are they called flops or disasters? The larger point here is that it is not appropriate to dub successful films (hits or semi-hits) as flops just because they were not blockbusters.

Another notable point is that even the films likeGARVandLUCKYwhich were ultimately declared below-average at the box-office opened to packed houses.

Having said all this, one must admit that Salman was not as successful between 2000 and 2009 as he was in 1990s, a decade when he was undisputed numero uno. From 2000 to 2009, Shah Rukh and Aamir certainly had an edge over Salman, but to say that Salman's stardom had dipped considerably is a gross exaggeration. The perception and general consensus about Salman among hoi polloi has always been that of a larger-than-life superstar.

👍🏼 article. Tfs
If u discount his multistarrers do the same with others too

Originally posted by: I_M_SultaN

Dulhan hum lejaege 2000 clean hit

Nope. Check the verdict for that film by the no.1 B.O analyst at that time - Average (Losing in
some circuits).

http://www.rediff.com/movies/2000/jun/27box.htm

You are only showing one side of the picture. This is the complete film 😆

1. London Dreams : Flop

2. Baghban : Hit

3. Wanted : Hit

4. Yuvvraaj : Disaster

5. God Tussi Great Ho : Flop

6. Marigold : Disaster

7. Partner : Super Hit

8. Salaam-E-Ishq : Disaster

9. Jaan-E-Mann : Flop

10. Shaadi Karke Phas Gaya Yaar : Disaster

11. Kyon Ki : Flop

12. No Entry : Super Hit

13. Maine Pyaar Kyun Kiya : Semi Hit

14. Lucky - No Time for Love : Below Average

15. Dil Ne Jise Apna Kahaa : Flop

16. Phir Milenge : Disaster

17. Mujhse Shaadi Karogi : Hit

18. Garv - Pride & Honour : Below Average

19. Tere Naam : Semi Hit

20. Yeh Hai Jalwa : Flop

21. Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam : Average

22. Tumko Na Bhool Paayenge : Flop

23. Chori Chori Chupke Chupke : Semi Hit

24. Kahin Pyaar Na Ho Jaaye : Flop

25. Har Dil Jo Pyar Karega : Average

26. Chal Mere Bhai : Flop

27. Dulhan Hum Le Jayenge : Hit


Salman has done 27 movies with meaty roles in last decade, and ONLY 6 movies were Clean HITS. This is epic beizatti of Pan-India megastar 🤣

And I've been generous here by including No Entry and Baaghban in Salman's filmography. Remove that and he only has 4 Clean Hits in which only 2 movies are Solo Hits I.e. Wanted and DHLJ
I've also ignored Baabul, MAMK, Saawariya, Hello as Salman movies.

Even then he still he has 16 FAILURES between 2000-09 in which there are 9 FLOPS and 5 DISASTERS. 😆

You can call Average and above-average as Success, but even SRK is giving Semi Hits right now but still people think that he's in his bad phase. Infact SRK is still in the 3rd position in the current standing while Bhai was competing with the likes of Harman Baweja and Tushaar Kapoor in the last decade. 😆 If this was not a bad phase for Megastar Bhai, then Bhai's standard is very low.

Originally posted by: Cpt.DudleySmith

Nope. Check the verdict for that film by the no.1 B.O analyst at that time - Average (Losing in
some circuits).

http://www.rediff.com/movies/2000/jun/27box.htm

Originally posted by: Kareenafanatic

Rediff? Check BOI. It's the one media quotes these days.

This is Film Information's verdict which is the oldest trade magazine in India. In those days Nahta used to put up it's verdicts on Rediff online and in the Asian Age in print. Nobody considered DHLJ a hit at that time. BOI is a joke.

Bad or say pathetic it was LUCK. After Wanted, luck started to shine and even horrible movies like body guard and ready did well. Its nothing but Luck, if it shines gives you suoer hits even from crap but if its down then a superb story would also flop.

Originally posted by: Cpt.DudleySmith

This is Film Information's verdict which is the oldest trade magazine in India. In those days Nahta used to put up it's verdicts on Rediff online and in the Asian Age in print. Nobody considered DHLJ a hit at that time. BOI is a joke.

Too much guest appearances which producers promoted as his movie

Originally posted by: Kareenafanatic

BOI is the industry standard these days for figures and verdicts. No other trade site or analyst has access to as much data as BOI. It has a monopoly on boxoffice reporting.

Komal Nahata's verdicts were based on estimates. That is how boxoffice reporting worked previously. If Nahata had accurate information and data, he'd have launched his own boxoffice site a long time ago, with accurate figures and verdicts.

So, unless another credible alternate pops up, BOI is the standard bearer at this stage.

LMAO. BOI didn't even exist when DHLJ released. Most of their totals and verdicts for older movies are plucked out of thin air. Film Information is the oldest BO magazine in India and has been putting up center wise data for decades. BOI is a farce of a website that keeps changing it's own numbers and verdicts based on a whim. The only problem is, the other websites are even worse.